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>> 6:00 P.M.

[00:00:02]

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

[1. Call to Order]

WE ARE HERE FOR OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING MONDAY JULY 22ND.

IT'S BEEN A BIT SINCE WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER, SO WE'LL HOPE THIS GOES SMOOTHLY.

SEE IF I FORGOT EVERYTHING.

BUT WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, AND THEN WE WILL START WITH A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

READY? BEGIN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL

>> NEXT UP IS OUR ROLL CALL.

>> PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT 5, JACKIE MADDUX.

>> HERE.

>> DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT 4, TERRY TATE.

>> HERE. DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT 2, TED CHAMPINE.

>> DISTRICT 3, TED HERE.

>> TED, 3, SORRY.

DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT 2, DEBBIE JOHNSON.

>> HERE.

>> VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT 1, MARY SNITILY.

>> HERE.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

>> THANK YOU. AND OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE. WHO'S HERE?

>> STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE, JULIA STIFFLER.

>> HERE.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP FOR TONIGHT IS OUR AGENDA APPROVAL.

[4. Agenda Approval (Board Vote w/Student Voice)]

ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE HAVE A SPECIAL OATH OF OFFICE FOR OUR NEW STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE.

WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS, OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND OUR DIRECTORS REPORTS.

WE HAVE SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF UPDATES, CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

OUR CONSENT AGENDA HAS ITEMS A THROUGH H. NO OLD BUSINESS TONIGHT.

WE HAVE SIX ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS, AND THEN AS TIME ALLOWS A DISCUSSION AROUND FUTURE ITEMS AND BOARD EVENTS, IF ANY, AGENDA ITEMS. ANYTHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON REMOVED, UPDATED? HEARING NOTHING COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE?

>> I MOVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

WE'D LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR ADVISORY VOTE.

>> VOTE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES; FIVE TO ZERO.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL MOMENT

[5. Oath of Office for Student Representative]

FOR OUR NEW STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE. SHE WILL TAKE [OVERLAPPING].

>> ITZEL, IF YOU CAN COME UP, PLEASE.

>> OATH OF OFFICE WITH MR. WATERS.

>> ITZEL, FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO SCHOOL BOARD AND JUST SAY WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE EXCITED TO A YOU ON BOARD.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION.

SO OATH OF OFFICE, I'LL DO MY PART, THEN YOU JUST REPEAT AFTER ME, OKAY? AND I'LL SHARE THE MIC WITH YOU.

I ITZEL CONTRERAS MONTIEL.

>> I ITZEL CONTRERAS MONTIEL

>> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM.

>> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM.

>> THAT I AM A RESIDENT AND STUDENT OF THE BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> THAT I AM A RESIDENT AND STUDENT OF THE BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

>> THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

>> AND THE POLICIES OF BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> AND THE POLICIES OF BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> AND WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT.

>> AND WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT.

>> SKILL AND ABILITY.

>> SKILL AND ABILITY.

>> TRULY, FAITHFULLY, DILIGENTLY.

>> TRULY, FAITHFULLY, DILIGENTLY.

>> AND IMPARTIALLY.

>> AND IMPARTIALLY.

>> PERFORM THE DUTIES OF STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE.

>> AND IMPARTIALLY PERFORMED THE STUDENT THE DUTIES OF STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE.

>> FOR BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT NUMBER 119.

>> FOR BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT NUMBER 119.

>> SCHOOL BOARD.

>> SCHOOL BOARD.

>> IN AND FOR CLARK COUNTY, WASHINGTON.

>> IN AND FOR CLARK COUNTY, WASHINGTON.

>> AS SUCH DUTIES ARE PRESCRIBED BY SCHOOL POLICY.

>> AS SUCH DUTIES ARE PRESCRIBED BY SCHOOL POLICY.

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>> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

>> WELCOME. I WISH THERE WAS A SMOOTHER WAY TO DO THAT.

I JUST THINK SHE'S TOO FAR AHEAD, AND THEN SHE HAS TO REMEMBER IT.

THEN THE MICROPHONE IS BLOCKING HER ABILITY TO READ.

>> IT'S A COGNITIVE TEST.

>> YES, IT IS ON MY PART NOT HER PART.

>> I'M SURPRISED YOU DON'T HAVE IT LIKE SEGMENTED THE WHOLE WHOLE WAY. COPY TOO.

>> YES. I THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

>> I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A FUTURE IMPROVEMENT.

>> I TRIED THAT IN THE PAST, AND THEN I GOT TOO BIG ON MY SEGMENTS [LAUGHTER].

>> YOU DID GREAT, DENNY.

>> YEAH. IT'S ALL ABOUT ME.

>> YOU DID GREAT.

>> YOU DID GREAT.

>> UP NEXT, WE HAVE OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[6. Communications]

WE HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE REPORT.

>> SO THIS MONTH IS THE MONTH FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE POSITIONS THAT WERE FILED.

I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 45 POSITIONS.

I WAS NOT PLANNING TO TRY TO DO ANY AMENDMENTS.

THERE WILL BE NO AMENDMENTS AT GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR, THERE WERE.

AND FRANKLY, IT WAS TWO DAYS OF PAINFUL WORD SMITTHING.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THEY DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS.

IF THEY PASS, THEY PASS, IF THEY DON'T, WE VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL POSITION.

DURING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

SO LATER THIS MONTH, WHEN THAT HANDBOOK COMES OUT, I WILL MAKE SURE YOU ALL SEE IT SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE ME INPUT ON THE POSITIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ARE YOU ATTENDING GENERAL ASSEMBLY?

>> YES, VIRTUALLY.

AND TERRY HAS OFFERED TO SIT IN TOO.

>> YOU CAN SIT IN ONLINE.

EVERYBODY CAN WATCH IT ONLINE.

>> IT'S REALLY RIVETING TO WATCH.

>> SO I CAN'T PROMISE I'LL BE SITTING IN FRONT OF IT THE WHOLE TIME BUT I'LL BE ON.

>> YEAH, IT'S RIVETING.

>> YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH PEOPLE STAND AT THE PODIUM [LAUGHTER].

BUT IT IS VERY INTERESTING, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU CAN'T WATCH ALL OF IT, OBVIOUSLY, JUST WATCH A PORTION OF IT BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW IT ALL WORKS.

>> IS THE LINK GOING TO BE AVAILABLE?

>> I WILL MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE THE LINK.

>> AND WHEN IS IT?

>> IT IS THE LAST WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER.

AND AGAIN, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE EXACT DATE TIME LINK.

>> IF YOU WANT TO SEND THE LINK TO LISA, SHE COULD SEND IT OUT FOR YOU.

>> SURE. THANK YOU.

>> WE COULD PUT A CALENDAR INVITE WITH THAT AS WELL.

>> I DON'T THINK I EVEN HAVE IT YET, BUT WHEN I DO.

>> OKAY.

>> AUDIT COMMITTEE REPORT?

>> YES, WE HAVE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

WE REVIEWED THE PAYROLL; AND IT WAS ALL IN ORDER.

WE ALSO REVIEWED MR. WATERS' TIME CARD AND IT'S ALL IN ORDER.

AND SOME VOUCHERS AND EXPENDITURES.

I'M LEARNING A LOT ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

THE EXPENSES ARE MIND BOGGLING, BUT THEY WERE ALL IN ORDER. GREAT JOB.

>> GREAT THINGS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE COMMITTEE.

>> YES, THANK YOU.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE THE BATTLE GROUND EDUCATION FOUNDATION. NO.

>> REPORT, NO MEETING.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE WIAA COMMITTEE.

>> NOTHING UNTIL AUGUST 17.

>> OKAY. WASHINGTON STATE SCHOOL DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION UPDATES.

NOT REALLY HEARING ANY. I WOULD JUST ASK I SENT EVERYBODY AN EMAIL WITH A VERY SHORT ARTICLE ATTACHED FROM WSSDA ABOUT SCHOOL BOARD SUCCESS.

IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THAT, PLEASE DO.

NEXT, WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR COMMITTEE REPORTS? DIRECTORY BOARDS.

>> WELL, IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, MONTHS, ACTUALLY, SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE COME TO US WITH CONCERNS ABOUT OUR LIBRARIES AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONTENT IN OUR LIBRARIES.

AND I KNOW THAT ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE'VE HAD OUR OWN THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT,

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AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

AND I FEEL LIKE FOR ME AND MAYBE FOR OTHERS AS WELL, I'VE HAD QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT WHAT IS OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURE, HOW COULD IT MAYBE CHANGE? WHAT ARE SOME OTHER DISTRICTS DOING? DENNY MAYBE YOU HAVE AND DATA ON HOW MANY BOOKS ARE CHECKED OUT AND HOW MANY OF THOSE BOOKS ARE CHECKED OUT AND SO ON.

SO MAYBE YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP US?

>> YEAH, I'D BE GLAD TO SPEAK TO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THE HEADS UP.

I PUT TOGETHER A PACKET FOR ALL OF YOU THAT HAS A BUNCH OF MATERIALS IN IT.

I CERTAINLY DON'T PLAN ON GOING OVER ALL OF IT, BUT I'LL GO OVER A LOT OF IT.

LISA, COULD YOU PULL UP POLICY 2021? THIS IS OUR LIBRARY INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM.

THIS IS THE POLICY AS IT SPEAKS TO IT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT HAS VERY LITTLE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM THERE, IT SAYS THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE WILL ESTABLISH PROCEDURES FOR THE SELECTION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MEDIA LITERARY RESOURCES WILL CONSIST OF A BALANCE OF SOURCES AND PERSPECTIVES.

IT ALSO GOES ON TO SAY THAT CITIZENS WHO WISH TO EXPRESS A CONCERN ABOUT SPECIFIC LIBRARY MATERIAL INCLUDED IN THE COLLECTION MAY DO SO ACCORDING TO THE PROCEDURES OUTLINED IN 2021P, THAT'S THE PROCEDURE.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT CRITERIA AND RATIONALE FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LIBRARY RESOURCES DIFFERS FROM THE CRITERIA AND RATIONALE FOR RECONSIDERATION OF CLASSROOM INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS.

LISA, COULD YOU GO TO THE WSSDA MODEL POLICY 2021? THE POLICY.

I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALIZE TOO THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL BACKGROUND TO PUT TOGETHER POLICY.

SO WE COUNT ON WSSDA, WHICH IS THE WASHINGTON SKATE SCHOOL DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION, WHICH WE PAY A MEMBERSHIP TO, WHICH ALL DISTRICTS IN WASHINGTON ARE A PART OF.

IT'S PART OF THE LAW, ACTUALLY, THAT THEY'RE A PART OF WSSDA.

AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT OUR POLICY IS EXACTLY LIKE THE MODEL POLICY.

SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THERE.

EVEN THE LAST PARAGRAPH IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO LISA, WOULD YOU NOW GO TO OUR PROCEDURE? YOU NEED TO GET BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO THIS IS OUR PROCEDURE.

AND THE FIRST PART JUST TALKS ABOUT LIBRARY COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT AND LIBRARY MATERIALS AND ELECTRONIC RESOURCES, SUGGESTION FOR ACQUISITIONS, AND THEN IT GOES ON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SELECTION.

SO LISA, COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE? AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I WANTED TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ABOUT.

ALL ITEMS SELECTED FOR THE PLACEMENT IN A SCHOOL LIBRARY WILL AND THEY'RE DONE BY THE SCHOOL LIBRARIANS.

THE SCHOOL LIBRARIANS ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CHOOSE THE LIBRARY BOOKS.

THEY'LL SUPPORT AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL EDUCATION GOALS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SUPPORT AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SCHOOL LIBRARY MEDIA AND INFORMATION LITERACY STANDARDS FROM THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL LIBRARIES.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, I LOOKED UP THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL LIBRARIES, AND I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN HERE TOO AND I DIDN'T.

BUT WE ARE VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE SCHOOL LIBRARY ASSOCIATION.

MEET THE HIGH STANDARDS OF FACTUAL CONTENT AND PRESENTATION.

CONTAIN APPROPRIATE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THE AGE EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ABILITY LEVEL, LEARNING STYLE, SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF STUDENTS.

SERVE FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSE IN BOTH PHYSICAL FORMAT AND APPEARANCE FOR LIBRARY MATERIALS.

HELP STUDENTS GAIN AN AWARENESS OF A PLURALISTIC SOCIETY.

MOTIVATE STUDENTS AND STAFF TO EXAMINE THEIR OWN DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES, RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES.

PARTICIPATING CITIZENS TO MAKE INFORMED JUDGMENTS ABOUT THEIR OWN DAILY LIVES.

CONSIDER EQUITY OF CONTRIBUTIONS, BOTH HISTORICAL AND CURRENT, RELATIVE TO GENDER, RACE, RELIGION, ETHNICITY.

I THINK THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT, NUMBER NINE, WITHSTAND SCRUTINY BASED ON THE STRENGTHS RATHER THAN BE REJECTED FOR THEIR WEAKNESSES.

I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND EVEN FROM YOU BOARD MEMBERS WHO'VE ASKED, WHY DO WE HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE BOOK? AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS POINT OUT SOME THINGS THAT YOU SEE AS WEAKNESSES OR CONCERNS,

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BUT THE BOOK ITSELF NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED.

AND IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IN THE POLICY AND IT'S AGAIN CONSISTENT ON STRENGTHS RATHER THAN WEAKNESSES.

AND THEN LASTLY, CLARIFY HISTORICAL AND CONTEMPORARY FORCES BY PRESENTING AND ANALYZING INTERGROUP TENSION, CONFLICT, OBJECTIVELY PLACING EMPHASIS ON RECOGNIZING AND UNDERSTANDING SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC PROBLEMS. NOW, I WANT TO MOVE DOWN TO SECTION 7.

SECTION 7 IS THE REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LIBRARY MEDIA MATERIALS.

THERE IS AN INFORMAL RECONSIDERATION. AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I PRESENTED THIS AT A SUBSEQUENT AND EARLIER BOARD MEETING WHERE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WE HAD CHANGED OUR POLICY AND I POINTED OUT THAT WE MADE A COUPLE OF SMALL TWEAKS.

>> TO OUR PROCEDURE, NOT THE POLICY.

>> TO OUR PROCEDURE, RIGHT. I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME. AND SO I'M GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

BUT INFORMAL RECONSIDERATION, THE FIRST THING IS THAT IF ANY PARENT HAS A CONCERN ABOUT A LIBRARY BOOK, THE FIRST THING THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IS TO MEET WITH THE TEACHER LIBRARIAN AND ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE INFORMALLY.

USUALLY, THEY'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE TEACHER LIBRARIAN AND THE PRINCIPAL OR AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND TALK ABOUT THE BOOK.

GO OVER, UNDERSTAND THE SELECTION PROCESS, WHY IT WAS SELECTED, HOW IT CAME TO BE IN THE LIBRARY.

SOMETIMES BOOKS ARE IN THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY'VE WON AWARDS;THEY'VE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE IN THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY'RE ON AP LISTS, AND THEY'RE NEEDED FOR STUDENTS TO ACCESS IF THEY'RE PART OF AN ADVANCED PLACEMENT CLASS.

THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS. THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE HAD PARENTS MEET WITH LIBRARIANS AND PRINCIPALS, AND THEN THEY'VE BOTH DECIDED, "YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO PULL THAT BOOK." SOMETIMES IT WORKS THAT WAY.

IF THEY CAN'T COME TO SOME KIND OF RECONCILIATION; THEN THERE IS A FORMAL RECONSIDERATION.

>> WHERE THE COMPLAINTING CAN FILL OUT THE REQUESTS FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LIBRARY INFORMATION AND TEACHING PROGRAM MATERIALS, AND THAT'S ON AN ONLINE DOCUMENT THAT THEY CAN FILL OUT.

THAT COMES IN AND THEN IT'S REFERRED TO THE INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM MATERIALS COMMITTEE, AND THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE REVIEWS THE REQUEST FORM, AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE FOLLOWING STEPS.

THEY READ AND EVALUATE THE BOOK MATERIAL IN QUESTION.

THEY STUDY ALL MATERIALS REFERENCED IN THE REQUESTS AND READ AVAILABLE REVIEWS.

THE GENERAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE MATERIALS SHOULD BE CHECKED BY CONSULTING STANDARD EVALUATION AIDS AND HOLDINGS IN OTHER SCHOOLS.

YOU LOOK AT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND YOU SEE, IS THIS BOOK IN THIS LIBRARY? IS THIS BOOK IN THIS LIBRARY? IS IT IN OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY? DOES IT STAND OUT FOR ANY PARTICULAR REASON? YOU CONSIDER THAT. IT SAYS THERE THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THE ENTIRE WORK RATHER THAN EXTRACTING PASSAGES OR PARTS, WEIGHING THE VALUE AND FAULTS AGAINST EACH OTHER, AND WEIGHING THE CONFLICTING OPINIONS BASED ON THE MATERIALS AS A WHOLE.

FOR INSTANCE, IN A BOOK CAN BE 350 PAGES, AND IT MAY CONTAIN TWO PAGES THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY FIND VERY OBJECTIONAL OR FIVE PAGES, BUT THE OTHER 350 PAGES, IT'S NOT ALONG THOSE LINES, SO THAT'S BY READING THE ENTIRE BOOK.

THEN YOU BASE THE FINAL DECISION ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF MATERIALS, ITS INTENDED EDUCATIONAL USE, UNDERSTANDING OF THE CRITERIA AND RATIONALE FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS.

THE IMC IS TALKED ABOUT IN A DIFFERENT POLICY, THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE, BUT THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE INCLUDES PARENTS ON THERE.

IT HAS TWO PARENT REPRESENTATIVES, HAS A PRINCIPAL, IT HAS OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.

IT HAS ALLISON TUCHARDT, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF INSTRUCTION AND CURRICULUM.

IT HAS A SCHOOL LIBRARIAN ON THERE.

THEY READ THE BOOK, THEY GATHER THE REVIEWS, THEY HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND THEY DECIDE.

ALL INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS RECONSIDERATION DECISIONS ARE IN A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE IMC.

DECISIONS OF THE COMMITTEE WILL BE DELIVERED IN WRITING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE COMPLAINANT, AND AFFECTED STAFF WITHIN 10 DAYS, AND IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

LISA, CAN YOU PULL UP THE WASDA MODEL PROCEDURE? I WROTE ON YOUR COPY THAT IT'S A MODEL POLICY, BUT IT COMES OUT OF THE MODEL POLICY GROUP, BUT THIS IS THE MODEL PROCEDURE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING FOR THE BOARD.

FOR THE PUBLIC, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS, YOU CERTAINLY CAN.

IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE WASDA WEBSITE, BUT IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT THERE,

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YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US AND WE'D BE GLAD TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU.

I'M SORRY, I KEEP SAYING THAT.

LET'S TAKE BONDS AND LEVIES.

[LAUGHTER] IF YOU WENT THROUGH THE MODEL PROCEDURE FOR WASDA, AND YOU COMPARED IT TO OUR PROCEDURE, IT IS IDENTICAL.

THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME BECAUSE I WANT OUR CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW, I WANT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO KNOW, I WANT OUR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T JUST CREATE A POLICY OUT OF THIN AIR.

THIS HAS BEEN THE POLICY.

IT'S THE PROCEDURE THAT'S OFFERED AS GUIDANCE, AND IT'S A PROCEDURE THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 10, 12, 15 YEARS.

AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, THERE HAVE BEEN SLIGHT TWEAKS.

IT'S BEEN MODIFIED OVER THE COURSE.

I THINK WE MODIFIED IT TO ADD THE ELECTRONIC LINKS.

PRIOR TO THAT, IT WAS MODIFIED IN 2018.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MODIFICATION WAS, BUT IT WAS BASICALLY THE SAME PROCEDURE.

YOU'LL ALSO FIND IN YOUR PACKET.

THE POLICIES THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND WERE CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY.

I PULLED MODEL PROCEDURES FROM LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

YOU'LL SEE IN HERE, I PULLED A MODEL PROCEDURE FROM HOCKINSON SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE SAME AS OURS.

A MODEL PROCEDURE FROM VANCOUVER SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE SAME AS OURS.

A MODEL PROCEDURE FROM THE KELSO SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I TRIED TO GET SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF PERHAPS OUR COMMUNITY THINKING.

SOME MORE CONSERVATIVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE KELSO AND HAWKINSON.

SAME AS OURS. KAMA SCHOOL DISTRICT, SAME AS OURS.

I EVEN WENT TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.

I HAD A SUGGESTION FROM MARY.

CHECK OUT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE STATE, MAYBE SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WERE AS LARGE AS US.

I PULLED THE WALLA WALLA SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICY PROCEDURE, SAME AS OURS.

THE KENNEWICK SCHOOL DISTRICT PROCEDURE.

NOW, THEY HAVE FOLDED THIS PROCEDURE INTO THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL PROCEDURE, WHICH IS 2310.

IT'S 12 PAGES LONG.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO, I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE 10.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE SELECTION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS.

I HIGHLIGHTED IT THERE FOR YOU.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE PROCESS TO REVIEW THOSE PROCEDURES.

YOU'LL NOTE JUST BY SKIMMING IT, THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME AS OURS.

THEY ADDED SOME SECTIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, THEY SAY IN THEIRS, THE LIBRARY STANDS FOR FREEDOM OF COMMUNICATION, FREEDOM OF INTELLECTUAL ACTIVITY, AND FREEDOM OF THOUGHT.

IT STRIVES TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TO GAIN INFORMATION AND VARIOUS POINTS OF VIEW ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES.

THE MAJOR AREAS OF CONTROVERSIAL MATERIALS ARE RACE, POLITICS, RELIGION, LITERATURE, AND ECONOMIC AND SELECTING MATERIALS OR ANY OF THE ABOVE AREAS, THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA ARE GIVEN, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE SAME THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE'S ONE IN HERE FROM CENTRAL VALLEY ALSO, WHICH IS WHEN WE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT COMPARE OURSELVES IN TERMS OF SIZE AND DEMOGRAPHICS, CENTRAL VALLEY IS THE ONE THAT THE STATE HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE USE.

YOU CAN SEE THEIR PROCEDURE IS ALSO VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.

>> DENNY, WOULD IT ALSO BE APPROPRIATE TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES DEALING WITH THE LEGAL SIDE OF THINGS, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PIECE THAT ISN'T EXPLAINED THROUGH THE PROCEDURE, AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE USE IN ORDER FOR PARENTS TO CHOOSE TO DESELECT BOOKS FROM OUR LIBRARY?

>> YES. MARY TALKED ABOUT SOME IDEAS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROCEDURE.

[LAUGHTER] ONE MORE TIME, YOU JUST HIT ME ON A CROSS THE HEAD.

TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROCEDURE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.

WE HAVE A CURRENT PRACTICE WHICH ANY PARENT WHO HAS CONCERNS

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ABOUT A BOOK CAN SUBMIT THE NAMES OF THOSE BOOKS OR A LIST OF BOOKS OR ALL BOOKS, OR THEY CAN EVEN BLOCK THEIR STUDENT FROM CHECKING OUT ANY BOOKS.

THEY CAN GO TO THE LIBRARY OR GO TO THE SCHOOL, CONTACT THE SCHOOL, AND WE DO THAT FOR THEM. THAT IS PART OF IT.

BUT I DO THINK, SHELLY, TO YOUR POINT, AND I WAS GOING TO GET TO THAT, THAT IT SHOULD BE IN OUR PROCEDURE.

WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF PUBLICIZING THAT FOR OUR PARENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

I ALSO WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION, LISA, COULD YOU PULL UP THE ENGROSS SUBSTITUTE HOUSE BILL 2331? I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE AND SOME OF YOU HAVE READ THIS ENGROSS SUBSTITUTE HOUSE BILL, 2331. OTHERS MAY NOT.

PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

THIS WAS PASSED AT THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT WAS SPECIFIC. IT WAS CALLED THE BOOK BAN BILL MANY TIMES.

THAT WAS A RATIONALE BEHIND IT.

LISA, IF YOU COULD GO DOWN TO PAGE 2.

NEXT ONE. NEXT ONE.

RIGHT THERE. SECTION 2. RIGHT THERE.

PERFECT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, AND I WON'T READ THE WHOLE BILL.

I PROVIDED IT TO YOU BOARD AS A RESOURCE.

AGAIN, FOR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WERE TO JUST TYPE IN HOUSE BILL 2331 ON A GOOGLE SEARCH AND PUT IN WASHINGTON JUST SO THAT YOU CLARIFY THAT IT'S THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

THIS WILL POP UP AND YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOURSELF.

BUT ONE OF THE THING THAT IS CLEAR IN HERE IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE STATE LAW, AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS BILL MAKES CLEAR AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IT ON THIS PAGE 2 IS THAT WE AS A DISTRICT MUST SET UP AND MUST PROVIDE THIS POWER OR THIS ABILITY FOR THESE BOOKS TO BE REVIEWED BY AN INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE.

IT EVEN TALKS ABOUT IF YOU LOOK AT LINE 24, WHERE IT STARTS ON A, B, C, AND D, YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS, REQUESTED REVIEWS AND REMOVALS OF SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS AND THIS INCLUDES LIBRARY MATERIALS, MUST INCLUDE A SUMMARY AND CITATION TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENTAL SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS ESTABLISHED IN SECTION 1, REQUIRES THAT THE REQUESTS FOR THE REVIEW AND POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION MATERIALS BE IN WRITING FROM A PARENT, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT.

I WANT TO POINT THIS OUT. IS IN THE PAST, WE HAVE ALWAYS ACCEPTED REQUESTS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IT'S NOW CHANGED TO PARENTS.

IT SEEKS TO RESOLVE REQUESTS FOR REVIEWS AND POTENTIAL REMOVALS OF SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS AT THE SCHOOL BUILDING LEVEL, WHICH AGAIN IS OUTLINED IN OUR POLICY.

IT REQUIRES IF THE RESOLUTION CANNOT BE AGREED UPON WITH THE PARENT AND THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL AND FOLLOWING A REVIEW OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS BY THE PRINCIPAL IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TEACHER LIBRARIAN OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND ONE IS AVAILABLE PRINCIPAL TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN DECISION ON WHETHER TO REMOVE THE MATERIALS.

IT TALKS ABOUT SETTING UP THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE AND THAT THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE WILL MAKE A FINAL.

PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR APPEALING DECISIONS OF PRINCIPALS EITHER BY THE PARENT OR THE APPLICABLE CERTIFIED TEACHER IN THE TEACHER LIBRARY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE DESIGNEE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.

APPEAL REQUEST MUST BE MADE IN WRITING AND DECISIONS BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE INTO THIS SUB-SECTION ARE NOT SUBJECT TO APPEAL.

AGAIN, THE IDEA [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT CHANGES BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE SUBJECT TO APPEAL TO THE BOARD.

>> TO THE BOARD, BUT ONLY NOW, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE APPEAL ON THE BOARD ONLY BY THE PROCESS, BUT NOW THEY WON'T EVEN BE.

ACCORDING TO THIS, IT DOESN'T EVEN COME TO THE BOARD.

AGAIN, EVEN WITH THIS LAW THAT'S GOING INTO EFFECT, OUR PROCEDURE IS IN LINE WITH IT.

I WANT TO PULL YOUR ATTENTION, LISA, COULD YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 1?

>> CAN WE JUST FORWARD STILL HERE? SECTION 3(A) AND B. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY

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THAT THIS BILL ALSO OUTLINES WHAT A PARENT MEANS.

>> YES.

>> IN SECTION 3(A) OF THAT SAME SECTION AND IN SECTION 3(B), SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION MATERIALS.

MEANING MATERIAL IN SCHOOL LIBRARIES.

IT'S [OVERLAPPING] VERY SPELLED OUT.

>> YES. WHAT I MEAN IS, WE HAVEN'T AND I BRING UP THIS BILL, NOT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO PUT BARRIERS IN PLACE, BUT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUE.

WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS WHEN A LAW GOES INTO EFFECT, AND MARY, YOU KNOW THIS.

WHEN THE LAW GOES INTO EFFECT, IT THEN GETS SENT TO OSPI.

THEN OSPI, ALONG WITH WASDA AND WASA AND ALL OF THOSE GROUPS, THEY INTERPRET THE BILL, AND THEY SEND US IN THE WASDA LEGAL, THE IMPACT OF IT.

THEY TAKE THE POLITICS, THE LEGAL EASE THAT'S IN HERE AND TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT DOWN FOR US.

WE STILL HAVEN'T EVEN RECEIVED THAT FROM THEM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MAKING ANY WHOLESALE CHANGES, NOT ONLY WOULD WE BE DIFFERENT FROM THE RECOMMENDED WASDA POLICY, NOT ONLY WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE MAJORITY OF DISTRICTS IN THE STATE.

AS FAR AS I CAN SIGN, EVERY DISTRICT, I KNOW MARY'S DONE HER RESEARCH, AND WE FOUND LITTLE PIECES.

>> WELL, LIKE THE COMMON SENSE MEDIA SAYS WHICH MIGHT BE HELPFUL, BUT I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW.

>> BUT AMOUNTS ARE IN PROCEDURE, NOT POLICY.

>> BUT WE HAVEN'T FOUND WHOLESALE CHANGES IN PROCEDURE.

WHILE THE PROCEDURE IS SUBJECT TO OUR PART, WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS.

THE PROCEDURE STILL HAS TO GO WITH THE LAWS.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT ON PAGE 2 ON THIS NEW SECTION, SECTION 1.

EXCEPT AS PROVIDED OTHERWISE BY THIS SECTION, A SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MAY NOT REFUSE TO IMPROVE OR PROHIBIT ANY USE OF ANY TEXTBOOK INSTRUCTION MATERIALS, SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTION MATERIALS OR OTHER CURRICULUM FOR STUDENT INSTRUCTION ON THE BASIS THAT IT RELATES TO OR INCLUDES THE STUDY OF THE ROLE AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF ANY INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP WHO IS PART OF A PROTECTED CLASS.

THIS NEW PART OF THE BILL FURTHER COMPLICATES THE MATTER.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE OF, WELL, WHAT IF THE BOOK IS ABOUT LGBTQ STUDENTS? WHAT IF THE BOOK IS WRITTEN BY A BLACK AUTHOR? WHAT IF THE BOOK IS WRITTEN BY A MINORITY AUTHOR, LIKE A HISPANIC AUTHOR? WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.

CAN WE WITHDRAW IT? WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN GUIDANCE.

BUT CERTAINLY THIS COMPLICATES THE MATTER EVEN MORE.

I POINT ALL OF THESE THINGS OUT BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.

NUMBER 1, THAT I DON'T WANT THIS ASSUMPTION THAT WE HAVE BEEN SOMEHOW DERELICT IN OUR DUTY.

THIS HAS BEEN A POLICY AND A PROCEDURE THAT HAS SERVED US WELL OVER THE LAST MANY, MANY YEARS.

IT IS IN LINE WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND IT IS IN LINE WITH THIS NEW LAW THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I STILL BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROCEDURE AND OFFER ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE BOOKS IN OUR LIBRARY.

LISA, IF YOU WOULD GO TO THAT RESPONDING TO LIBRARY BOOK CONCERNS.

>> CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT SECTION 1 WHEN YOU REFERENCE PROTECTIVE CLASS? IT'S ALSO FOLLOWED BY RCW.

RCW PULLS UP, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT A PROTECTIVE CLASS? I DON'T THINK WHILE WE WOULD WAIT FOR GUIDANCE FROM OSPI, IT'S GOING TO FALL BACK TO THE SRCW, RIGHT?

>> WELL, MY THOUGHT ABOUT THE GUIDANCE IS, JUST BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN, SAY, FOR INSTANCE, BY AN LGBTQ AUTHOR, DOES THAT OFFER IT PROTECTION? [OVERLAPPING] IS IT BASED ON THE CONTENT? IF IT MENTIONS IT, DOES THAT OFFER IT PROTECTION VERSUS IT BEING I DON'T THINK [OVERLAPPING].

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THOSE ANSWERS.

>> THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GUIDANCE FROM OSI VERSUS [OVERLAPPING] REFERENCE TO SRCW.

>> THE TERM NUANCE IS A GOOD WORD.

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I DON'T KNOW THE NUANCES OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

>> HERE'S SOME THINGS THAT PUTTING OUR THOUGHTS, OUR HEADS TOGETHER.

I WANT TO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT TO PROMOTE GOOD THINKING IN OUR OWN DEPARTMENT, BUT I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO TRAVIS DRAKE, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF SECONDARY SCHOOLS.

HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

HE'S BEEN A PART OF THESE MEETINGS AND HAS HEARD OUR PARENT CONCERNS.

HE'S BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS, AND IT WAS WITH HIM AND I AND SHELLY AND A FEW OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHERE WE PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, TRAVIS FOR YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS.

NUMBER 1 IS, I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM MORE OF OUR FAMILIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AMANDA HAS THOUGHT ABOUT WAS, WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT'S TO OUR USE, WHICH IS OUR THOUGHT EXCHANGE SYSTEM, AND WE COULD INITIATE A SURVEY.

PART OF A LARGER SURVEY WITH SOME OTHER ISSUES.

FOR INSTANCE, WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR PARENTS ABOUT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT CELL PHONES.

IT'S A BIG TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR PARENTS ABOUT START TIMES, CHANGING START TIMES FOR SCHOOLS.

THIS BOOK THING IS ONE.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I SHARED WITH THE BOARD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS.

SO FAR AT OUR MEETING SINCE JANUARY, WE HAVE HAD 30 CITIZEN COMMENTS ABOUT THE BOOKS AND ABOUT US CHANGING OUR POLICY TO THE BOOKS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BOOKS IN OUR LIBRARY.

THERE HAVE BEEN 12 DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO US.

THIRTY COMMENTS, BUT 12 DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

OF THOSE 12 INDIVIDUALS, TWO, OUR PARENTS.

THAT REPRESENTS, WE HAVE 12,000 STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT.

TWO PARENTS OUT OF 12,000 STUDENTS, REPRESENTS 0.016 OF A PERCENT.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM 99.984% OF OUR PARENTS ON THIS ISSUE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THEM.

TO GET THE BOARD FROM OTHER PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE HEARD SINCE THIS TOPIC CAME UP, AND IT OCCURRED MOSTLY IN ONE MEETING.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM 10 PARENTS WHO HAVE ASKED US NOT TO CHANGE OUR POLICY.

NOT 10 PARENTS, 10 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASKED US NOT.

OUT OF THOSE 10 PEOPLE, TWO OF THEM WERE PARENTS.

THE SAME NUMBER OF PARENTS HAVE ASKED US TO CHANGE OUR POLICY AND THEY ASKED US NOT.

WE HAVE 12 INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE ASKED US TO CHANGE OUR PROCEDURE, AND WE HAVE 10 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ASKED US NOT TO CHANGE OUR PROCEDURE.

BUT AGAIN, EVEN THAT REPRESENTS 0.016% OF OUR PARENTS, 0.016% OF OUR TOTAL POPULATION.

WE HAVE 58,000 VOTERS IN OUR DISTRICT, AND WE'VE HEARD EFFECTIVELY FROM 22 OF THEM.

I DO THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REACH OUT TO OUR PARENTS AND WE FIND OUT WHAT THIS ISSUE MEANS TO THEM.

THAT WOULD BE STEP NUMBER 1.

STEP NUMBER 2 IS I'VE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR ASSESSMENT AND OUR PROCESS FOR CHOOSING AND PURCHASING THE LIBRARY BOOKS.

GET IN FRONT OF IT RATHER THAN BEHIND IT. I AGREE.

WE NEED TO ASSESS OUR PROCESS, BUT WE NEED TO BRING IN MORE STAKEHOLDER VOICE TO THAT PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE HANDS OF OUR LIBRARIANS.

CAN WE ADD PEOPLE TO THAT GROUP? WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I SAID IN THERE.

MARY BROUGHT UP THIS RESOURCE THAT SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE STATE ARE USING.

IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE MEDIA.

SHOULD WE INVESTIGATE THAT, LOOK AT IT, OFFER IT AS A SOURCE.

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU JUST TYPE IN COMMON SENSE MEDIA, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT ONLINE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT DOES.

IT'S REALLY JUST TALKS ABOUT BOOKS, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT BOOKS FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES AND DIFFERENT, LIKE YOU CAN ASSESS THE SEXUAL CONTENT IN IT OR THE VIOLENCE IN IT OR THOSE THINGS.

WE COULD DO THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE LIBRARIANS AS PART OF THIS.

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THEY'RE VESTED IN THIS PROCESS.

WE WOULD BE QUESTIONING THEIR PROFESSIONALISM IF THEY WEREN'T.

THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY OUT ON SUMMER.

THEY COME BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

WE COULD START THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM THEN.

I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE NUMBER 3, EXPLORING THE POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF THE IMC, THE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE SO THAT THE BOOKS CAN BE EVALUATED AT A FASTER PACE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING ONE BOOK PER MONTH.

THAT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE ONLY HAD A HANDFUL IN THE LAST 12 YEARS, I THINK WE'VE HAD ONE BOOK CHALLENGE.

LAST YEAR, WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL BOOK CHALLENGE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROCESS THROUGH, AND THEN WE HAD THE BULK OF THE BOOK CHALLENGES.

SO IT WAS NEVER A PROBLEM FOR US.

BUT IT IS NOW. I SEE THAT.

COULD WE POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE IMC? I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION, IS IT REALISTIC? DO YOU HAVE TWO TEAMS? DO YOU NEED TO CALIBRATE THOSE TEAMS, MAKE SURE THEIR THINKING IS THE SAME, MAKE SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE A BOOK GOES TO TEAM A VERSUS TEAM B, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A BETTER OR LESS CHANCE OF BEING APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME FAIRNESS AND SOME CALIBRATION IN THAT.

I ALSO DON'T KNOW, [BACKGROUND] THE COST OF THAT BECAUSE WE DO PAY THE PARTICIPANTS TO EVALUATE THESE BOOKS AND WE PAY.

THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERABLE COST THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE AND THIS COULD GO IN A NEW PROCEDURE POSSIBLY.

I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS OF THE IMC BEYOND THE BOOK STAYING OR BEING REMOVED.

RIGHT NOW, THE IMC HAS TWO CHOICES.

THE BOOK IS REMOVED OR THE BOOK STAYS.

THE MEMBERS OF THE IMC HAVE EXPRESSED TO ALLISON THAT THEY WISH THEY HAD MORE CHOICES.

THEY WISH THEY COULD SAY THE BOOK CAN STAY, THE BOOK CAN LEAVE, OR THE BOOK CAN GO INTO A RESTRICTED SECTION.

OR THE BOOK CAN GO INTO A PARENT PERMISSION SECTION, OR THE BOOK CAN GO INTO A SECTION THAT IS ONLY 16 OR 17-YEARS-OLD VERSUS 14, 15-YEARS-OLD.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPTIONS.

THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.

AGAIN, I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY OF THOSE AVAILABLE.

>> THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED AS WELL BY HOUSE BILL 2331.

>> THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED THERE AS WELL.

>> BUT WHAT WAS THAT?

>> IT COULD POSSIBLY BE IMPACTED BY HOUSE BILL 2331.

SHELLY BROUGHT THIS UP AND I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, I THINK WE NEED TO PUBLICIZE AND CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR PARENTS WHO WHICH TO RESTRICT THEIR CHILDREN FROM CHECKING OUT PARTICULAR BOOKS.

WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT.

AMANDA AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IDEAS.

WE COULD SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT, WE CAN MAKE IT PART OF OUR POLICY.

WE COULD PUBLICIZE OUR POLICY, WE COULD BRING ATTENTION TO THAT.

WE COULD MENTION TO PARENTS THAT THIS IS NEW IN OUR POLICY, WE COULD HIGHLIGHT IT, WE COULD PUBLISH IT A NUMBER OF TIMES FOR PARENTS.

THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH I THINK MANY PARENTS MIGHT LIKE, IS THAT WE CAN SEE IF THERE IS A PROCESS FOR INFORMING PARENTS OF THE BOOKS THAT THEIR CHILD CHECKS OUT.

ANYTIME A CHILD CHECKS OUT A BOOK, A PARENT WOULD GET A NOTICE OR A NOTIFICATION SAYING, YOUR CHILD CHECKED OUT THIS BOOK, HERE'S THE TITLE.

THEN THE PARENT COULD DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH ON THE BOOK, TALK TO THE CHILD ABOUT THE BOOK AND DECIDE AS A FAMILY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED THE CHILD TO CONTINUE HAVING THAT BOOK.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SYSTEM FOR OUR LIBRARY BOOKS CALLED DESTINY.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM FOR COMMUNICATING PARENT WITH PARENTS.

IT'S CALLED SKYWARD.

>> CAN FAMILY ACCESS?

>> CAN FAMILY ACCESS? WE JUST DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

SCOTT MCDANIEL IS HELPING US.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS A WAY FOR THOSE TWO SYSTEMS TO COMMUNICATE SO THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

BUT THESE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT I HAVE ABOUT HOW WE COULD CHANGE OUR PROCEDURE AND THE WAY WE DO THINGS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE SUCH AS THE LIFE OF WORKING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S VERY HARD TO PLEASE EVERYBODY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND.

>> A BALANCE.

>> A BALANCE. BUT WE HAVE SUCH A WIDE DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BOOKS, THERE'S A PASSION ASSOCIATED WITH BOOKS THAT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND, WHAT CAN BE CLARIFIED AS, CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL OR DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN OR DIFFERENT RACES.

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EVERYBODY HAS BOOKS THAT THEY JUST LOVE.

BOOKS THEMSELVES STIR A LOT OF PASSION.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE ARE LISTENING IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO ME.

I THINK ABOUT THIS A LOT.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.

I OFFER THESE AS WAYS THAT WE CAN STILL DO SOME THINGS TO HELP OUR FAMILIES.

FOR A TIMELINE FOR THESE THINGS, I LEFT IT VAGUE BECAUSE REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD IN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME.

FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO LET EVERYBODY GET BACK TO SCHOOL BEFORE WE CAN DO THINGS.

SECONDLY, THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IS A GIANT MESS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

OUR LIBRARIANS ARE SWAMPED WITH BOOK CHECKOUTS AND CHROME BOOKS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

PROBABLY THE EARLIEST, WE COULD START DOING A FEEDBACK FROM FAMILIES AND TALKING TO LIBRARIANS AND WORKING ON IS PROBABLY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

BUT WE COULD GET SOME THINGS GOING AND MAYBE BY THE END OF OCTOBER, WE COULD COME BACK AND BRING TO THE BOARD.

THAT WOULD BE THE DATE I WOULD BE SHOOTING AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO POINT OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE BOOKS THAT THEY REFERENCED AT THE LAST MEETINGS THAT IN THE MEANTIME, AS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS.

ALL OF THE COPIES OF THE CHALLENGE BOOKS HAVE BEEN CHECKED OUT BY THE IMC COMMITTEE.

THEY ARE NO LONGER IN OUR LIBRARIES.

THEY ARE NOT IN OUR LIBRARIES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE IMC COMMITTEE NEEDS THOSE COPIES TO REVIEW.

ANY OF THE COPIES OF THE CHALLENGE BOOKS WILL NOT BE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR STUDENT CHECKOUT, BECAUSE THEY'RE CHECKED OUT TO THE IMC.

THEN, TED, TO YOUR POINT, I ALSO REFERENCED THAT THE COMPLICATING FACTOR TO ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE ALWAYS RUN THINGS LIKE THIS BY OUR ATTORNEY IS WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF HOUSE BILL 2331 BECAUSE ANY OF THESE NEW IDEAS WE HAVE MAY NOT PASS THAT LITMUS TEST, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS.

THOSE ARE THE IDEAS THAT I HAVE.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT I SHARED THIS INFORMATION.

I APOLOGIZE. I'VE GOT A STACK OF STUFF HERE. I DON'T HAVE IT.

>> NUMBER OF BOOKS.

>> THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE BOOKS WERE CHECKED OUT.

>> I HAVEN'T.

>> HERE WE GO.

[BACKGROUND]. NOW, DO YOU HAVE THE OTHER EMAIL? MARY, DO YOU HAVE THAT.

>> I HAVE THE EMAIL.

>> I THOUGHT I HAD THE EMAIL.

>> [BACKGROUND] I HAVE IT.

>> I HAVE IT. I'M THE ONE WHO SENT IT.

I COULD EASILY OPEN UP.

I APOLOGIZE.

>> APOLOGIZE FOR ME. I'M THE ONE WHO'S BEING SLOW.

>> NO. I'M BEING SLOW TOO BECAUSE I'VE GOT MINE PULLED UP.

>> THERE YOU GO. YOU HAVE TO CLICK INTO IT.

>> WHAT? >. YOU CLICK INTO IT.

>> OH, YOU SHARED IT WITH ME? YOU'RE VERY NICE. EXCEPT.

>> DEBATE.

>> IT ONLY TAKES THREE MINUTES FOR IT TO ARRIVE.

>> YOU WANT ME TO READ IT.

>> I GOT IT. COME ON, DANNY.

SCOTT.

[LAUGHTER] WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, BLAME THE DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY.

>> IF HE'S HERE. [LAUGHTER] HE'S SO HAPPY HE'S HERE TODAY.

>> HERE I WAS LOOKING FOR THE SECOND ONE THAT I SENT YOU.

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>> YOU DON'T WANT THE ONE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN CHECKED OUT?

>> NO. THE ONE SINCE THE LATE LAST TWO YEARS.

>> NO.

>> WHEN DID YOU SEND IT? I KNOW I READ IT?

>> ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO OUR CITIZENS WHO ARE.

>> I HAVE IT. DOES SOMEBODY HAVE IT?

>> I'VE GOT IT. YOU HAVE IT. THERE YOU GO.

>> HERE YOU GO. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 BOOKS THAT HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED.

THE FIRST BOOK IS DEAD END.

DEAD END HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS IN OUR LIBRARY.

LUCKY WAS CHECKED OUT ONCE TWO YEARS AGO.

PUSH HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SOLD WAS CHECKED OUT ONCE LAST YEAR.

A STOLEN LIFE WAS CHECKED OUT TWICE TWO YEARS AGO, NONE LAST YEAR.

TRICK HAS BEEN CHECKED OUT TWICE, ONCE LAST YEAR AND ONCE TWO YEARS AGO.

WICKED HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WATER FOR ELEPHANT HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

UGLY LOVE HAS BEEN CHECKED OUT FOUR TIMES LAST YEAR, TWICE TWO YEARS AGO. THAT'S THE ONE THAT.

TILT HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THE SUN IN OUR FLOWERS HAS NOT CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SHINE HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THE PERKS OF BEING A WALLFLOWER WERE CHECKED OUT TWICE LAST YEAR AT PHS AND THREE TIMES TWO YEARS AGO AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.

>> ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE IMC SO FAR?

>> PERKS OF BEING A WALLFLOWER WAS REVIEWED BY THE IMC AND DETERMINED TO STAY IN THE LIBRARY.

>> TO STAY.

>> THE PARENT HAS BEEN NOTIFIED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S UP ENOUGH.

I'M SURE. A LOT. SORRY.

>> ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THAT GO AHEAD.

IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> JUST IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE IDEAS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO GET MORE INPUT FROM FAMILIES AND TO GET THEIR VOICES ON MANY QUESTIONS.

THE HARD PART IS TO ASK HOW THE QUESTION IS FORMED.

>> YES. [OVERLAPPING] JUST SO YOU KNOW, MARY, THOUGHT EXCHANGE ISN'T NECESSARILY A SURVEY WHERE YOU ANSWER QUESTION NUMBER 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

THOUGHT EXCHANGE WILL ASK, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT, WHAT DO YOU, IT'LL BE A BROAD QUESTION.

THEN PARENTS WILL MAKE COMMENTS.

FOR INSTANCE, I PICK ON JENNIFER, I'M SORRY, JENNIFER.

JENNIFER AND I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WERE TO ASK A GENERALIZED QUESTION ABOUT LIBRARY BOOKS, JENNIFER COULD RESPOND TO THE SURVEY AND TYPE IN THERE SOMETHING LIKE, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE CONTENT OF LIBRARY BOOKS.

THE SEXUAL CONTENT IN LIBRARY BOOKS IS CONCERNING TO ME AS A PARENT.

WELL, THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COULD READ THAT COMMENT BY JENNIFER AND LIKE HER COMMENT, STAR HER COMMENT TO BE APPROPRIATE, OR MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT IN LINE AND THEN IT WOULD BUILD.

THEN IF MORE PARENTS WERE STARRING THAT COMMENT, IT WOULD COME OUT AS A KEY CONTRIBUTOR OR KEY POINT.

THIS WAY, ALTHOUGH IT STARTS OUT VAGUE, IT CAN REALLY DRILL DOWN BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS AND HOW YOU RATE THE COMMENTS AND RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS.

AMANDA IS VERY MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT. IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> YES. IT LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES A COMMENT HAS BEEN STARRED.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE RISING TO THE TOP AND WHICH ONES ARE FALLING TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.

THERE ALSO IS SOME NEW FUNCTIONALITY THAT CAN COMBINE WHAT DENNY JUST DESCRIBED WITH SOME TRADITIONALLY FORMATTED SURVEY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> BECAUSE IT HAS STRENGTHS, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES OF IT IS THAT IT ISN'T A SURVEY AND SOMETIMES THAT THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU DATA IN THE SAME WAY.

IT GIVES YOU INFORMATION THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY GIVE YOU DATA.

>> WELL, AND WITH ALL OF THIS, THE DIFFICULTY OF IT IS NUMBER 1, ENGAGING OUR PARENTS IN THE CONVERSATION.

>> SURE.

>> NUMBER 2, HOW MUCH DO OUR PARENTS KNOW ABOUT IT ALREADY, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO COMMENT ON.

>> IT'S DIFFICULT TOO TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF IT.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL NUANCES TO THE POLICY, TO THE PROCEDURE, TO THE NEW HOUSE BILL.

TO WHAT WE DO OUTSIDE OF THAT IN TERMS OF PARENTS HAVING THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE BOOKS THAT THEIR STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO.

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THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY THAT A PARENT WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND IF THEY'VE NOT ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS ACTIVELY.

>> THEN YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION ABOUT BOOKS.

I WOULD ONLY CHANGE THAT TOO.

THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION ABOUT THE IDEA OF BOOKS.

BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU ASK STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY IN HIGH SCHOOL, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY CHECKED OUT A BOOK FROM THE LIBRARY, WHAT YOU'LL FIND IS THAT THAT'S NOT THE FORMAT THAT THEY USE.

IN FACT, THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT READING BOOKS.

>> MARY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

THAT'S NOT THE IDEA.

THE PASSION IS THE IDEA.

>> WELL, AND TO THAT POINT, IT MAKES ME QUESTION MAYBE THE TRADITIONAL LIBRARY AND HOW WE GO FORWARD.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION.

I'LL USE THE WORD IDEA. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I JUST BE CURIOUS.

>> BUT DOES THE DATA [INAUDIBLE]? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DO HAVE SOME DATA ON THAT.

>> TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED, IT WAS ON THE EMAIL I JUST SENT YOU.

>> I CAN'T FIND THAT ONE.

APPROXIMATELY PULL IT UP NOW.

>> TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT.

>> TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED BOOKS A YEAR ARE CHECKED OUT.

WE HAVE ALMOST 30,000 BOOKS IN OUR LIBRARY.

>> I THINK I'LL JUST [OVERLAPPING] TAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.

>> JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE YOU SAYING IN ALL OF OUR LIBRARIES IN THE BATTLEGROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS 30,000 BOOKS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO. LAST YEAR, PHS STUDENTS CHECKED OUT THE BOOK 2,567 TIMES.

>> THROUGHOUT OUR WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT?

>> THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR. NO, PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL ONLY.

>> PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> BUT TERRY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE 20,761 BOOKS IN THEIR COLLECTION [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ABOUT 1,600 STUDENTS.

>> BATTLEGROUND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CHECKED OUT A BOOK 2,592 TIMES.

THEY HAVE 14,052 BOOKS IN THEIR COLLECTION.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE BOOKS WERE CHECKED OUT A TOTAL OF EIGHT TIMES LAST YEAR, AND NINE TIMES TWO YEARS AGO.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, JULIA AND ISO.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT A BOOK FROM THE LIBRARY? [LAUGHTER]

>> ZERO.

>> A TEACHER HAS TO FORCE ME TO CHECK OUT A BOOK.

>> HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE LIBRARY?

>> WE DON'T HAVE ONE. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THE ROLE OF OUR LIBRARY.

OUR LIBRARIES ARE HUGE IN OUR PRIMARY SCHOOLS.

SHELLY MADE A GOOD POINT.

OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE ALWAYS VERY BUSY.

>> IT'S A RESOURCE FOR THEM.

>> IT IS. IT'S A DIFFERENT PLACE.

IT'S NOT THE SAME IN PRIMARIES AS IT IS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I THINK THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT HIGH SCHOOL, THE LIBRARIES DO HAVE A VERY DEFINITE NEED POSITION IN HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT NEED THAN WHAT WE ARE SERVING AND SPENDING OUR RESOURCE ON.

>> I DO THINK THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE OF EQUITY INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL LIBRARY THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.

MY DAUGHTER, IF SHE WANTS TO ORDER A BOOK, SHE CAN ORDER A BOOK FROM ME.

WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS YOUNG, SHE COULD COME TO ME AND SAY, DAD, CAN YOU ORDER THIS BOOK FOR ME ON AMAZON? I COULD ORDER THAT BOOK. SOME OF OUR FAMILIES DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, SO THEY COUNT ON THE PUBLIC LIBRARY OR THEY COUNT ON THEIR SCHOOL LIBRARIES.

SOME DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GET TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES, SO THEY COUNT ON THE SCHOOL LIBRARY TO BE THAT RESOURCE FOR THEM.

THERE IS A PART OF EQUITY INVOLVED.

I WANT TO SAY THAT OUR LIBRARIANS WORK REALLY HARD TO KEEP UP TO DATE, THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

MANY OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE CONTENTIOUS.

IF YOU WERE ASK OUR LIBRARIANS, WHY IS THAT BOOK IN YOUR LIBRARY, THEY WOULD SAY, WELL, THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE LIBRARIAN WHO WAS HERE BEFORE ME.

BECAUSE SOME HAVE BEEN IN OUR LIBRARIES FOR SINCE 2008, SINCE 2010, SINCE 2011.

THEY'RE THERE.

>> I HAVE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST BRING UP JUST FOR DISCUSSION, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I DID QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH REGARDING THE STANDARDS FOR SCHOOL LIBRARIANS AND OUR POLICY SAYS THAT THEY DETERMINE THE FINAL SELECTIONS.

I WANTED TO JUST READ, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS? THIS IS THE ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL LIBRARIANS, WHEN I LOOKED UP.

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TALKS A LOT ABOUT ETHICS.

IT'S ALMOST IN EVERY LINE.

WHEN I DEFINED ETHICS, IT'S MORAL PRINCIPLES THAT GOVERN A PERSON'S BEHAVIOR.

I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, IS THAT BOOKS THAT ARE IN THE LIBRARY NEED TO BE MORAL PRINCIPLES THAT ARE GOVERNING A PERSON'S BEHAVIOR.

HOW ARE THESE BOOKS THAT STANDARD HELPING THESE STUDENTS GOVERN THEIR PERSONAL BEHAVIOR? IT'S ANOTHER TURN. IT'S ANOTHER FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

>> YES, DEBBIE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING FOR ME PERSONALLY AS A PARENT OF MY OWN CHOICES AND THE GUIDANCE FOR MY OWN CHILDREN.

IS THAT WE ALWAYS THINK ABOUT ETHICS AND THINK ABOUT THOSE MORAL PRINCIPLES BECAUSE THESE ARE FORMABLE MINDS.

THE YOUNG BRAIN IS VERY FORMABLE AND VERY PLIABLE.

WHAT THEY'RE TAKING IN, THE OLD SAYING GARBAGE AND GARBAGE OUT, IS GOING TO AFFECT THEM FOR LIFE.

I WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH TRAUMA AND AN EXPERIENCE THAT A YOUNG PERSON HAS H3, 2, INFANCY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED, BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAVE IT.

IT'S IN THEIR BRAIN. IT'S IMPRINTED.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, SOMETHING FOR US, I THINK, TO REALLY WEIGH ABOUT THOSE MORAL PRINCIPLES THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB.

THAT'S JUST ANOTHER FOOD FOR THOUGHT RELATING TO THE LIBRARY AND TO THE CONTENT THAT'S IN THE LIBRARY.

>> I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS PART OF OUR POLICY, IT SAYS THAT THE LIBRARIANS WILL USE REVIEW JOURNALS, THE SCIENCE BOOK AND FILMS, ASAS, AASA, AMERICAN FILM VIDEO ASSOCIATION EVALUATIONS, KIRKS REVIEWS, SCHOOL LIBRARY JOURNAL, BULLETIN FOR CENTER ON CHILDREN'S BOOKS, CLEAT, BOYA, ALL OF THOSE OTHER RESOURCES, KIRKS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

TO YOUR POINT, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, MORAL PRINCIPLES.

AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, WE HAD A CITIZEN QUOTED FROM THE BOOK SOLD.

I WAS CURIOUS AND I LOOKED AT THAT BOOK.

OUR LIBRARIAN WAS GOING THROUGH IT.

OUR LIBRARIAN WOULD SEE THAT THAT BOOK WAS A NATIONAL BOOK AWARD FINALIST, THAT THAT BOOK WAS A PUBLISHER'S WEEKLY BEST 100 BOOKS OF 2006.

THAT IT WAS NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO'S BEST BOOK OF THE YEAR 2006, THAT IT WAS THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION TOP 10 LIST BEST BOOK OF THE YEAR 2006.

THAT IT WON THE GUSTAF HEINEMAN PEACE PRIZE, THE BOOK LIST EDITOR'S CHOICE AWARD, THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY BEST BOOK FOR TEENAGERS.

THAT'S THE HARD PART, IS THAT WHAT IS ONE PERSON'S IDEA OF MORALLY RIGHT AND APPROPRIATE IS ANOTHER GROUP'S TERM FOR, WELL, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT BOOK.

FINDING THAT LINE, DEBBIE TO YOUR POINT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD.

>> IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE PARENTS.

IT NEEDS TO GET HIT BACK TO THE PARENTS FEEL.

PARENTS NEED TO STEP UP AND SPEAK UP AND SAY WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AS PARENTS TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, AND I THINK IT HAS TO GET HIT BACK INTO THEIR COURT.

WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET THEM TO SPEAK UP AND TELL US WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN PLACE.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S HARD TO DO ANY OF THIS WORK WHEN LIBRARIANS ARE NOT AROUND.

I THINK I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR OUR LIBRARIANS.

>> I DO TOO.

>> THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THERE'S A PASSION, AND I'LL USE THAT WORD AGAIN.

>> I DO THINK THAT TO YOUR POINT, IT IS A PARENT'S DECISION, HOW THEY'RE RAISING THEIR CHILD, AND I HOPE THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUSH PEOPLE TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED.

I THINK PUTTING FORTH THE THINGS THAT AREN'T IN OUR PROCEDURE THAT WE DO WOULD REALLY HELP PARENTS BECOME INVOLVED WITH THAT.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO LET THEM KNOW A BOOK THAT THEIR CHILD CHECKED OUT, IF THEY WERE PROVIDING A LIST TO THE TEACHER,

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LIBRARIAN OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO OR DON'T WANT THEM TO CHECK OUT.

I DO THINK THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED BECAUSE IT IS UP TO ALL INDIVIDUAL PARENTS TO DECIDE HOW THEY RAISE THEIR OWN CHILD.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS SO THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S THE PIECE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE GONE FAR ENOUGH WITH, AND I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE AT ANY POINT WHEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE BACK AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

>> CERTAINLY, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE LIBRARIANS.

[OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE AMAZING.

I LOVE BOOKS, BOOKS ARE AMAZING.

LIBRARIANS ARE THE COOLEST PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ANYTHING IMMORAL ABOUT THEM.

I WAS JUST INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THEIR STANDARDS WERE, THAT THE STANDARD THAT ALL SCHOOL LIBRARIANS SHOULD BE ABIDING BY AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED WHEN THEY'RE IN PROCESS OF BEING HIRED.

I JUST FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT ETHICS IT'S JUST WEAVED THROUGHOUT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE STANDARD THAT THEY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

>> NO, I'M GOOD.

>> I HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR JACKIE [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GO AHEAD. I'LL JUST WAIT TILL THE END. GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, I NOTE THAT WE'RE AN HOUR INTO OUR MEETING ALREADY.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.

DENNY, THANK YOU FOR HOW WELL YOU CAME PREPARED TO THE MEETING WITH ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU HAD FOR US TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, I NOTE THAT THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA ABOUT US HAVING THIS ONE HOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME VERY IMPORTANT STUFF.

>> IT'S ON BOARD DOCS.

>> IT'S ON BOARD DOCS IF YOU WERE TO OPEN IT. IT'S THERE.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS ON THE AGENDA WHERE MOST PEOPLE WOULD LOOK.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

>> IT'S ON THE ONLINE AGENDA.

THE SAME AGENDA THAT'S PRINTED.

>> IT'S ON BOARD DOCS, WHICH IS WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS.

>> CAN YOU READ TO ME WHAT IT SAYS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME OR WHATEVER.

>> YEAH.

>> IT IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF, AND MAYBE WE'RE SPENDING.

[OVERLAPPING] I HAVE FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR A MOMENT THOUGH.

>> YOU GOT IT.

>> YEAH.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> UNDER DIRECTOR REPORTS, IT SAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO REPORT ON THEIR ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE POSITIONS.

THEN UNDERNEATH THAT, IT TALKS ABOUT HOUSE BILL 2331, POLICY 2021, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT CITIZENS' COMMENTS WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE.

>> IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LIBRARY POLICY?

>> POLICY 2021 IS THE LIBRARY POLICY.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T PICK UP ON THAT, BUT THAT'S LIBRARY POLICY, NO WHERE THEY LOOK TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.

I'M JUST THINKING BECAUSE ONE THING YOU SAID IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, THE FIRST SUGGESTION YOU MADE IS SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM FAMILIES.

THE THOUGHT THAT'S REALLY POWERFUL.

I INTENTIONALLY CALLED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF TALKING ABOUT IT.

BUT IT TICKLED ME A LITTLE BIT TO KNOW THAT I BET YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ALSO.

WE'RE GOING TO INVEST ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF ON THIS.

MAYBE IF THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WE SHOULD HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING JUST FOR THIS TO LET PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT, AND YOU BRING REPORTS AND WE DIALOGUE AND ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VALUE OR NOT, BUT THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION BECAUSE I FEEL VERY HESITANT NOW TO SAY MUCH.

I FEEL A LITTLE STRESSED OUT, A LITTLE INTIMIDATED ABOUT THE TIME, AND WE'VE GOT LOTS TO DO STILL.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT EVENING.

I'LL JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS.

WHEN I CAME ON THE BOARD, THIS WAS A TOPIC THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT UP AT MEETINGS WHILE I WAS OBSERVING BEFORE I CAME.

I CAME ON THE BOARD IN DECEMBER AND PEOPLE WERE BRINGING THIS STUFF UP AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

>> THE FIRST COMMENTS THAT WE GOT WERE IN JANUARY.

>> WELL, LAST YEAR IN DECEMBER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

NOVEMBER, PEOPLE WERE QUESTIONING AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE I BECAME A MEMBER, AND I BECAME A MEMBER IN DECEMBER.

I COULD BE MISTAKEN. MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN.

>> I THINK YOU ARE BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST COMMENTS THAT WE HAD BY THE CITIZEN WHO FIRST BROUGHT IT UP WAS IN A JANUARY BOARD MEETING.

>> I STAND CORRECTED. THANK YOU.

>> WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE FIRST CHALLENGES TO THE BOOKS UNTIL APRIL.

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>> THERE WAS A PROCLAMATION THAT WAS SUGGESTED ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY, THAT WAS IN JANUARY? OKAY. THAT WAS THE FIRST THEN THAT I WAS INTRODUCED TO THIS.

WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I WAS SURPRISED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY BEING EXCLUDED FROM OUR LIBRARIES, OR SHOULDN'T BE THERE, THAT KIND OF THING.

I KNOW WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT HOW, WELL, IT'S HARD TO DEFINE PORNOGRAPHY, REALLY IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEFINE PORNOGRAPHY.

YOUR PORNOGRAPHY MAY BE MY ART OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I WAS JUST LOOKING THIS UP BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS IN THIS DISCUSSION TROUBLE ME A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL STUFF THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP HERE, THESE GOALS AND THESE PLANS, THIS IS GOOD STUFF, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU, SO I'M GOING TO CURTAIL MY COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD.

IN MY REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE TABLE THAT I HAVE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PASTORS AND PEOPLE ABOUT THEM SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO BECAUSE IT'S LOST IN THE WHOLE THING? I ASKED THEM TO FORMULATE THEIR IDEAS, AND I HAD PUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND YOU'RE ADDRESSING MANY OF THEM IN YOUR PLANS, SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE I'M GOING TO READ THAT STUFF.

BUT THIS IDEA OF PORNOGRAPHY SEEMS TO BE AT THE HEART OF THEIR CONCERNS, AND IT'S A THING WE CAN'T DEFINE, AND YET IT SAYS HERE, ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PEDIATRICS, PORNOGRAPHY IS THE DEPICTION OF EROTIC BEHAVIOR, AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

SO PORNOGRAPHY IS THE DEPICTION OF EROTIC BEHAVIOR, SIMPLE.

NOW, IT GOES ON TO SAY, AND THIS IS THE CONCERN, BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS READ IN THIS CHAMBERS LAST MEETING, AND I THOUGHT THE REACTION WAS PRETTY OVERWHELMINGLY CONSENSUS THAT THAT STUFF IS INAPPROPRIATE.

WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT OUR LADIES WEREN'T HERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO HEAR THIS STUFF, BUT THIS IS THE STUFF THAT'S IN OUR LIBRARIES.

NOW, WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? WELL, ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PEDIATRICS, THE AVAILABILITY AND USE OF PORNOGRAPHY HAS HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR CHILDREN.

IT'S JUST TWO SENTENCES, IT'S REAL SIMPLE STUFF, IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.

PORNOGRAPHY INCREASES RATES OF DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, ACTING OUT, VIOLENT BEHAVIOR, YOUNGER AGE OF SEXUAL DEBUTS, SEXUAL PROMISCUITY, INCREASED RISK OF TEEN PREGNANCY, AND A DISTORTED VIEW OF RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN.

PORNOGRAPHY IS A REALLY BAD THING, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T DEFINE IT.

WE CAN'T DEFINE IT TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN SAY WE DON'T WANT PORNOGRAPHY IN OUR LIBRARIES.

NOW, WHAT I HEARD AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND EVERYBODY ELSE UP HERE TESTIFIED AT THAT MOMENT, THAT WAS NOT STUFF THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO LISTEN TO, AND IT'S IN OUR LIBRARIES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE BOOKS HERE, SOUL, OH, IT'S AN AWARD-WINNING BOOK.

>> HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK?

>> THAT DOESN'T MATTER. HERE'S THE POINT, THE POINT IS, WE HEARD A READING FROM IT, AND IT WAS EROTIC.

>> HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK?

>> NO. SO WHAT? YOUR POINT IS WHAT?

>> THE POINT IS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE A SECTION IN IT.

>> YES.

>> BUT ARE YOU EVALUATING THE BOOK FROM THE BASIS OF THE BOOK?

>> HERE WE GO. ACCORDING TO WHAT PORNOGRAPHY IS, PORNOGRAPHY CAN BE DAMAGING.

IT DOESN'T SAY 300 PAGES OF PORNOGRAPHY, IT DOESN'T SAY FIVE PAGES OF PORNOGRAPHY, IT SAYS, DENNY, LET'S SMUG A LOOK ON YOUR CAR.

I'M TAKING OFFENSE TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A REAL CONCERN.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SMUG.

>> THIS IS A REAL CONCERN.

>> IT IS A CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL.

>> THEY READ THE BOOK TO US, AND WE WERE HAPPY THESE GIRLS WERE NOT HERE.

SO DON'T TELL ME IF THEY WOULD HAVE READ THE WHOLE BOOK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY.

>> TERRY, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME GOING TO THE LIBRARY, ME LOOKING FOR A BOOK, ME PICKING UP THAT BOOK, ME READING THE ENTIRE BOOK.

IF I GET TO A SECTION IN A BOOK THAT I DON'T WANT TO READ, I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME HAVING TO LISTEN TO IT OUT LOUD WHEN I DIDN'T GET THAT CHOICE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.

THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

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>> I THINK THAT THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER TOO, AND WE NEED TO REMIND OURSELVES IS THAT WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF PORNOGRAPHY, AND WHILE I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOUR POINTS, TERRY, THE ISSUE IS THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF IT, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE PEDIATRIC ASSOCIATION STATES, AND I GET THAT.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONTEXT AND SOME APPLICATION OF THAT REGARD, BUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACED WITH IS IN THE LEGAL SIDE, FACING LAWSUITS FROM ONE GROUP OR ANOTHER, IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SET CASE LAW TO THIS, IT BECOMES VERY CHALLENGING ON THE LEGAL SIDE.

IT PUTS OUR POSITION AS A DISTRICT IF WE WERE TO JUST THROW THOSE BOOKS OUT, SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THESE BOOKS IN OUR SCHOOLS, WE ARE BECOMING CHALLENGED, AND NOW WE HAVE LEGAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SO WE HAVE TO EVALUATE ALL OF THOSE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND OURSELVES AS A GROUP THAT THAT WAS THE DEFINITION WE COULDN'T PROVE, WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH A LEGAL DEFINITION OF IT IN CASE LAW, THAT'S WHAT SHE HAD SAID TO US.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THE DEFINITION THAT YOU STATED, AND I AGREE IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.

>> SO I'LL RETURN TO MY POINT THEN.

THE POINT IS, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS PORNOGRAPHY, AND WE DON'T WANT IT IN OUR LIBRARIES, RIGHT? NO? DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT? WE DON'T WANT PORNOGRAPHY IN OUR LIBRARIES.

>> THE STRUGGLE IS, IS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MATTER WHAT I INDIVIDUALLY WANT OR YOU INDIVIDUALLY WANT OR ANYONE ON THIS BOARD INDIVIDUALLY WANTS.

WE HAVE TO REPRESENT A COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO WE HAVE TO EVALUATE NOT ONLY THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT, BUT ALSO THE IMPLICATION OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

>> SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING SOME PEOPLE DO WANT PORNOGRAPHY IN THE LIBRARY?

>> I'M SUGGESTING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT OFFENDED BY WHAT THEY HEARD.

>> SEE, TERRY, I'M OFFENDED BY THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP REFERRING TO IT AS PORNOGRAPHY WHEN WE HAVEN'T DEFINED WHAT PORNOGRAPHY IS.

>> THEN I'M REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A THING CALLED PORNOGRAPHY.

>> THERE'S A TEST CALLED THE MILLER TEST.

JENNIFER ACTUALLY REFERENCED IT.

THERE'S A TEST CALLED THE MILLER TEST.

>> OKAY, STOP.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

STOP, ONE AT A TIME.

>> PLEASE.

>> PLEASE GO, FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK, DO NOT SPEAK UNTIL HE'S DONE.

>> THERE IS A TEST CALLED THE MILLER TEST.

IT WAS A SUPREME COURT TEST, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT OBSCENITY CASES, SAYS THAT IN ORDER FOR MATERIAL TO BE DEEMED OBSCENE, IT HAS TO, ONE, HAS TO MEET THREE PRONGS OF THE MILLER TEST.

PRONG NUMBER 1 IS WHETHER THE AVERAGE PERSON, APPLYING CONTEMPORARY COMMUNITY STANDARDS, WOULD FIND THE WORK TAKEN AS A WHOLE APPEALS TO THE PRURIENT INTEREST.

NUMBER 2, WHETHER THE WORK DEPICTS OR DESCRIBES IN A PATENTLY OFFENSIVE WAY SEXUAL CONDUCT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED BY THE APPLICABLE STATE LAW, AND NUMBER 3, WHETHER THE WORK TAKEN AS A WHOLE LACK SERIOUS LITERARY, ARTISTIC, POLITICAL, OR SCIENTIFIC VALUE.

MY POINT TO YOU IS NOT TO BE DISMISSIVE OF YOUR FEELINGS, BUT YOUR IDEA OF WHAT PORNOGRAPHY IS CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER PERSON, SO TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THAT LINE TO SAY, THIS IS PORNOGRAPHIC, DOES IT HAVE SEXUAL CONTENT IN IT? YES.

>> WELL, I'M JUST READING THE THREE CRITERIAS FOR THE OBSCENE UNDER THAT DOCTRINE, AND IT SAYS, RIGHT HERE, IF THE WORK DEPICTS OR DESCRIBE SEXUAL CONDUCT OR EXCRETIONARY FUNCTIONS, AS DEFINED BY STATE LAW.

>> BUT IT HAS TO MEET ALL THREE PRONGS, AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS DIFFICULT.

>> THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.

>> THE WORK TAKEN AS A WHOLE LACKS SERIOUS LITERARY, ARTISTIC, POLITICAL, OR SCIENTIFIC VALUE.

>> THEN IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE RESULT IS THAT PARENTS HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS.

>> TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO ASSESS IT IN SOME WAY.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT IT AND ASSESSES IT TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.

>> AS I'VE SAID, I COMMEND YOU ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING TO DO THAT.

BUT THE POINT I WAS DRIVING TOWARDS IS, IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS CONCERN THAT I HAVE FOR HOW IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY'S TRUST FOR US AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

WE TALKED ABOUT 10 PEOPLE COMING HERE TO SAY THIS, AND EIGHT PEOPLE COMING HERE TO SAY THIS, AND TWO PARENTS, AND TWO PARENTS, BUT WE HAVE THESE BONDS AND LEVIES THAT WE PUT FORWARD THAT CONSTANTLY DON'T SEEM TO GET THROUGH.

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SINCE I'VE BECOME A BOARD MEMBER, I'VE BEEN TALKING MORE TO PEOPLE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I THINK I OVERHEARD TED SAYING SOMETHING ONE TIME ABOUT HOW THERE'S PEOPLE GOING DOOR TO DOOR TELLING THEM, DON'T VOTE FOR THE BOND.

WELL, THERE'S A REASON, I'M NOT SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A TRUST ISSUE.

BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT, THE IDEA THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA IN A WAY THAT IS DISCRETE OR HARD TO CATCH, MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING FOR THIS.

I THINK WE NEED TO, LIKE THIS SAYS, SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM FAMILIES.

WE'VE DONE POORLY IN OUR CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE, AND THEY SEEM TO NOT TRUST US, AND I RUN INTO IT OFTEN.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING? WHAT? THE SCHOOL IS WORKING HARD WITH YOUR MONEY, HOW COULD YOU THINK THAT WE'RE NOT? PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S IN OUR LIBRARIES, HOW COULD YOU THINK WE'RE NOT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT, IT'S A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT, AND I CAN SEE WHY THEY MIGHT THINK THAT WAY WHEN WE HAVE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT PORNOGRAPHY IN OUR LIBRARIES.

IT'S HARD TO GET YOUR MIND AROUND SOMETIMES, SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE TRANSPARENT ENOUGH WITH OUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, AND I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION, I APPRECIATE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

AS I SAID, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE IDEA THAT WHAT WE HEARD READ IN HERE IS OKAY IF YOU TAKE IT IN THE WHOLE CONTEXT OF ALL THE 300 PAGES, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO CORRECT ME ANYMORE ON THAT.

MAYBE I REPRESENT A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE, MAYBE IT'S JUST TWO OR THREE OF US THAT THINK THE SAME WAY.

SEE, THE IDEA OF PORNOGRAPHY IS IT DAMAGES PEOPLE, ONE PICTURE CAN DAMAGE PEOPLE.

HAVING TO LISTEN TO WHAT WAS READ FOR FOUR PARAGRAPHS CAN STICK IN SOMEBODY'S BRAIN ALL NIGHT.

SEE, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU CAN GO INTO THE LIBRARY, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN, AND CHILDREN CANNOT DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO READ PORNOGRAPHY OR NOT, THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, THAT'S NOT A DECISION A CHILD SHOULD MAKE.

THE IDEAS HERE ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THE PARENTS MORE INVOLVED.

THE CONCERN THAT WE CAN CROSS SOME LEGAL BOUNDARY IF WE SAY, YOU GOT TO OPT INTO THESE BOOKS.

THESE BOOKS, MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DAMAGING, SO LET'S PUT THEM BEHIND THE COUNTER AND HAVE A PARENT SIGNATURE SAY, HEY, I WANT MY KID TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT BOOK.

OH, WE'RE CONCERNED IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VIOLATING THE LAW.

WELL, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IF THAT BOOK IS DAMAGING, THEN WE GOT SOME REAL WORST PROBLEMS ON OUR HANDS.

I HAVE LOTS OF THINGS I WOULD HAVE LIKED SAID ABOUT THIS.

I'LL ASK ONE LAST QUESTION.

WELL, IN YOUR PAPERS AND ALL THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTING OF EVERYTHING THAT'S IN ALL OF THESE, YOU OBVIOUSLY WENT OVER THIS STUFF PRETTY WELL, IT TALKS ABOUT THE TIME FOR REVIEW.

IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU SAY THERE ARE 13 BOOKS FOR REVIEW, IS IT GOING TO TAKE 13 MONTHS?

>> WELL, UNLESS WE CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS.

>> JUST A SUGGESTION FOR DRAKE OR WHOEVER.

MAYBE YOU GET FOUR PEOPLE TO WORK ON ONE BOOK, AND THEN THEY BRING IT BACK TO THE BIG GROUP AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS? WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM HERE, ALL OF US SHOULD LOOK AT THIS.

OR, YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS? WE DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS BOOK. I DON'T KNOW.

>> TERRY, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, NOT JUST TO YOU, TERRY, BUT ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, THAT ALL OF THE PACKET THAT DENNY PUT TOGETHER BE READ AND REVIEWED, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T DO THAT BASED ON WHAT'S IN OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURE, BECAUSE THE IMC COMMITTEE IS DEFINED, AND IT'S MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE, AND REALLY UNTIL YOU DIG INTO SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT'S TOO EASY TO TURN IT INTO A SIMPLISTIC PROCESS.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET INTO THE WEEDS WITH THAT,

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BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'VE GOT PLANNED HERE IS EXCELLENT AND REALLY GOOD.

BUT THE FACT THAT A PROCEDURE WILL TAKE 15 MONTHS FOR WHOEVER BOOKS, THAT'S REALLY NOT EXPEDITIOUS.

>> IT'S A WHILE, BUT TO DENNY'S POINT, THOSE BOOKS AREN'T AVAILABLE DURING THAT TIME.

IN ESSENCE, THERE ISN'T A CONCERN FOR STUDENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED.

>> SURE.

>> SO WHILE, YES, IT'S A WHILE, IT ALSO IS A BALANCE OF RESOURCES, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S VOLUNTEERS, SO THE VOLUNTEERS, WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR THAT.

IT'S A USE OF DISTRICT RESOURCES, WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WANT TO SPEED UP PROCESSES, TO HAVE MORE BOOKS TO BE REVIEWED, TO HAVE MORE SITUATIONS, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE OTHER PRIORITIES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PARENTS THAT HAVE CONCERNS, AGAIN, PARENTS CAN HAVE ALL OF THOSE BOOKS NOT HAVE ACCESS FOR THEIR CHILDREN, ANY OF OUR PARENTS CAN.

SO WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO STOP IT WHERE IT'S AT WHILE WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> THAT'S EXCELLENT.

>> I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR IT TO NOT BE QUICKER, BUT WE DO HAVE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE.

>> THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME MOST IS PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROCESS WORKS THAT WAY, AND THEY GET, AS YOU SAID, FRUSTRATED.

FIFTEEN MONTHS, THIS IS FRUSTRATING.

WELL, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND WE SOMEHOW, FOR SOME REASON, I THINK WE CARRY SOME BURDEN IN THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

>> THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REVIEW THE PACKET BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING PEOPLE COME TO YOU.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THE PROCESS SO YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS BECAUSE THAT, AGAIN, BUILDS TRUST THAT WE ARE LISTENING AND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

I LOST THE THING, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK, IN YOUR LOOKING OVER ALL THESE POLICIES, DID YOU SEE ANYBODY WHO HAD A SYSTEM THAT SEEMED TO MITIGATE THAT? NO.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM, TERRY.

EVEN TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, ISN'T THERE A GROUP OF BOOKS THAT WE COULD PUT BEHIND, STILL SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO ASSESS THOSE BOOKS AND SAY, THIS BOOK GOES THERE.

>> SURE.

>> THIS BOOK GOES THERE, AND THIS BOOK GOES THERE.

IF WE WERE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN, WOULD WE BE ASSESSING 20,000 BOOKS? I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S TO THE POINT.

AGAIN, AN OPT IN IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE ONE PARENT MIGHT WANT 10 BOOKS TO BE RESTRICTED, AND ANOTHER PARENT COULD WANT 20, AND ANOTHER COULD WANT 75.

>> YEAH, TOTALLY.

>> WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?

>> WHAT DO YOU DO? >. ONE PARENT MIGHT WANT THEIR KID TO READ THAT BOOK SOLD BECAUSE IT EXPLORES SEXUAL SLAVERY, AND THEY MIGHT SAY THAT'S AN IMPORTANT BOOK AND ANOTHER PARENT MIGHT SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT BECAUSE I FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT YOU DO.

I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY, I WASN'T SPEAKING FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY.

I'M TRYING TO REPRESENT THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER PARENTS WHO HAVE SAID TO ME, HEY, I WANT MY KID TO BE ABLE TO READ AN IMPORTANT BOOK LIKE THAT, OR I WANT MY KID TO BE.

I'LL DEAL WITH THAT. JUST AS WE TALK ABOUT A PARENT'S RIGHT TO RESTRICT BOOKS, THERE'S ALSO THIS OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, AND I APOLOGIZE, THE PARENTS RIGHT TO ACCESS THOSE BOOKS FOR THEIR KIDS.

SO THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART WITH ALL OF THIS.

>> SURE. THANK YOU.

>> IT'S A TOUGH BALANCE BECAUSE ON ONE HAND, YOU HAVE THE NOTION AND THE DESIRE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN.

BUT AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE PARENTS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

WE CAN PROVIDE THE MATERIALS, OR IF THE LAW TELLS US WE CAN OR CAN'T, WE CAN ADJUST TO THAT AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WITHIN THOSE LIMITATIONS AND THE RESTRICTIONS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, KEY TERMS INTO DENNY'S POINT IS CHOICE, PARENTS RIGHTS.

WHAT I WOULD ALLOW MY CHILD TO READ IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD ALLOW THEIR CHILD TO READ AND VICE VERSA.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE REGARDLESS OF CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD.

I'M ALWAYS GOING TO FIGHT FOR PARENTS' RIGHTS IN ANY ONE OF THESE ISSUES.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE MY STANCE.

IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT I DEEM APPROPRIATE OR NOT.

IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT.

IT'S THEIR CHILDREN, NOT MY CHILDREN. THEIR CHILDREN.

>> BUT IN OUR SELECTION PROCESS, WE ALSO SAY THAT BOOKS MUST BE AGE APPROPRIATE SO SOMEBODY IS MAKING THAT DECISION.

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THERE IS SOME CRITERIA AND WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT EVERY SINGLE BOOK IN OUR LIBRARY.

IF PARENTS WANT THEIR KIDS TO READ SOME THINGS, THEY CAN GO GET THE BOOK AND ACCESS THE BOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK, AGAIN, THERE'S GOT TO BE THAT BALANCE.

WE'RE NOT A PUBLIC LIBRARY.

WE ARE NOT REQUIRED, AND REMOVING A BOOK FROM OUR LIBRARY IS NOT BANNING A BOOK, THAT IS NOT A BOOK BAN.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SELECTIONS.

THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR CHILDREN.

I THINK ALL OF US AGREE THERE'S THIS TENSION BECAUSE THAT RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THERE'S A TENSION FOR THE LIBRARIANS AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS.

>> I BELIEVE OUR LIBRARIANS HAVE THE BULK OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS.

BUT AGAIN, MANY OF THE BOOKS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LIBRARIES, THEY CAN'T TELL YOU WHY THEY WERE SELECTED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THE LIBRARIANS THAT BOUGHT THEM AT THE TIME THAT THEY BOUGHT THEM.

BUT THEY ARE RELYING ON A VARIETY OF RESOURCES THAT THEY WERE TRAINED ON WHEN THEY BECAME TEACHER LIBRARIANS.

THEY UNDERSTAND THOSE RESOURCES.

THEY UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY THEY WON THE MEDALS THAT THEY WON, THE AWARDS THAT THEY WON.

THEY UNDERSTAND MANY OF THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE A PART OF OUR IMC PROCESSES.

WHEN THEY'RE BEING REVIEWED, THEY CAN BRING THAT INFORMATION AND THAT HOMEWORK TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT.

JUST LIKE I WOULDN'T PRETEND TO KNOW ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT THE LEGAL, WHICH IS WHY OFTENTIMES WE'RE CALLING THE ATTORNEY.

I WOULDN'T PRETEND FOR A MINUTE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE ASPECTS OF THEIR JOBS, WHICH HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SELECTIONS OF INSTRUCTIONAL READING MATERIALS IN OUR LIBRARY.

>> I THINK THE PROCESS IS REALLY SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HEAR A LOT THAT THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T KNOW IT OR WHY THEY CAN'T FIND IT, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG AREA, THE CONNECTION OF THE PROCESS, I THINK, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A COMMITTEE.

I THINK A LOT OF COMMUNITY THINKS THAT THE BOARD MAKES ALL THE SELECTIONS OF ALL THE BOOKS, AND WE MAKE ALL THE SELECTIONS OF ALL THE CURRICULUM.

>> YOU GOT THE SUPERINTENDENT.

>> OR THAT YOU MAKE THEM.

YEAH. I'VE TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE, WE DON'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

WE DO LOOK AT THE CURRICULUM BOOKS AND WHATNOT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME TO AN END HERE PRETTY SOON TOO, WITH THE NEW LAWS THAT ARE [OVERLAPPING].

YEAH, WITH THE NEW LAWS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT OFFICE.

I JUST THINK TOO, JUST EDUCATING AND PUTTING THAT STUFF OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME PARENTS HAVE.

I KNOW A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST TRYING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND PAY THEIR BILLS AND PAY THEIR RENTS, SO IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME RIGHT NOW FOR EVERYBODY.

THEN THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER THAT I THINK PUTS A LOT OF STRESS ON FAMILIES.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, I JUST HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, AND WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT COMING TO A CONCLUSION AND WORKING DILIGENTLY TOWARDS IT.

IF THAT'S NOT CLEAR AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN SAY.

>> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. ACTUALLY, I'VE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COST THAT THIS COULD PERPETUATE TO THE FUTURES OF OUR LIBRARIES.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOME STATISTICS THAT YOU SHARED, 2,500 BOOKS LAST YEAR BASICALLY FOR EACH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, AND YET THE COMMENT FOLLOWED OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, ABSOLUTELY, JUST KIDS ARE CHECKING OUT BOOKS ALL THE TIME.

MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? AS HIGH SCHOOLERS, I THINK YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.

MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN CONFIRM FOR ME.

MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO GOOGLE SOMETHING BEFORE, OR USE A SEARCH ENGINE OR LOOK UP A BOOK ONLINE BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO CHECK ONE OUT IN A LIBRARY, AND I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER WHEN YOU SAID YOU DON'T EVEN GO THERE.

IT'S BEEN SAID TO ME THAT HAVING THESE BOOKS IN OUR LIBRARIES, DON'T NEED TO BE CHECKED OUT.

THAT STUDENTS COULD JUST GO SIT IN THE LIBRARY AND READ THEM AND THEIR PARENTS WOULD NEVER KNOW.

I WOULD REFER RIGHT BACK TO OUR STUDENTS WHO SAID THEY DON'T READ BOOKS UNLESS THEY HAVE TO.

THEY'RE DOING THEIR CURRICULUM.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT OVER MANY YEARS, I HAVE HEARD PARENTS' RIGHTS, PARENTS' RIGHTS, PARENTS' RIGHTS,

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AND WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SUPPORT PARENTS WITH THEIR RIGHTS, AND I 100% AGREE WITH YOU, TED.

I WILL FIGHT FOR THAT. WHAT I ALLOW AS A PARENT IS NOT FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO DECIDE.

IF I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO READ A BOOK, THEN I HAVE THE OPTION TO CHOOSE TO NOT LET THEM DO THAT.

BUT YOU DO NOT WANT ME TO TAKE AWAY YOUR OPTION.

I WILL SAY AGAIN, PARENTS' RIGHTS, IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR KIDS TO READ A BOOK, BE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY UP TO YOU.

IT IS NOT UP TO THIS BOARD.

WE HAVE COSTS AROUND THIS FOR THE IMC COMMITTEES TO REVIEW THE TIME, THE EFFORT PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERING.

I UNDERSTAND IT TAKES TIME, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S FRUSTRATING.

BUT AS WE FACE $8 MILLION IN BUDGET CUTS?

>> 6.5.

>> BECAUSE WE ALLOWED PART OF OUR FUND TO COME TO SUPPORT.

>> 8.5.

>> OKAY. WE WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT IN THE COST, THAT'S SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A REVIEW OF THIS COMMON SENSE MEDIA AND THERE'S A COST INCURRED WITH IT, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT WITH THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY NOT ONLY TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE THAT CONCERNS PARENTS, BUT TO ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THEIR MONEY AS THEY SUPPORT US.

I THINK THE LAST THING I WILL SPEAK TO IS THE MORAL PRINCIPLES, AND I THINK FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL FAMILY, THAT IS THEIR OWN.

I AGREE WITH DEBBIE ON THAT.

THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE TONIGHT.

I WILL USE THE WORD PASSION AND FOLLOW IN DENNY'S COMMENTS.

WHEN I CHOOSE A BOOK FOR MYSELF, I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I CHOOSE IT BASED ON WHAT I WANT TO READ, THE GENRE I LIKE.

I DON'T LIKE BEING FORCED TO READ BOOKS.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE GREAT THING ABOUT A LIBRARY IS IN A SCHOOL? NOBODY'S FORCING YOU TO PICK A BOOK.

IT IS VOLUNTARY.

YOU GO THERE TO FIND ONE, AND IF YOU FIND THE WRONG ONE, YOUR PARENTS WOULDN'T AGREE, PLEASE TALK TO YOUR PARENTS.

IF WE CAN PUT IN THIS THING, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A RECOMMENDATION, IF WE CAN PUT IN THIS THING TO HAVE PARENTS NOTIFIED WHAT BOOKS THEIR KIDS HAVE, THAT OPENS UP A CONVERSATION, DOESN'T IT? LET'S GIVE THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN GIVE AND LET'S KEEP OUR OPTIONS BECAUSE IF WE TAKE AWAY OPTIONS FROM PARENTS AND WE TAKE AWAY OPTIONS FROM FAMILIES, THEN WE'RE FAILING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS A COMMENT ABOUT THIS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, LADIES? GOOD? TERRY, ANYTHING ELSE?

>> NO, THANK YOU.

>> MARY?

>> I'M GOOD.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M GREAT.

>> TED. THANKS. OKAY. THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA UNDER DIRECTOR REPORTS WAS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

I THINK TERRY ALLUDED TO IT THAT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WAS UNCOMFORTABLE LAST MEETING, I WASN'T HERE, BUT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, THANKS TO SWAGGER, TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

IT GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT OUR POLICY 1,400.

I ASKED TO HAVE THIS ADDED TO OUR AGENDA WHERE WE HAVE MEETING, CONDUCT AND ORDER OF BUSINESS.

I PROBABLY SAY THIS TOO MUCH, BUT WE ARE A MEETING OF THE BOARD IN PUBLIC, NOT A PUBLIC MEETING.

WHILE WE ARE RESPECTFUL AND ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS TO SPEAK, THERE ARE OTHER MEANS IN WHICH WE CAN HEAR YOUR CONVERSATIONS TO US.

I WOULD ASK, THIS IS NOT A VOTING ISSUE, THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WITHIN THE BOARD.

I WOULD REFER TO POLICY 1,400 WHERE IT STATES THE BOARD WILL CONDUCT ALL BOARD MEETINGS IN A CIVIL, ORDERLY, AND BUSINESS-LIKE MANNER.

IN ADDITION, ONE OF THE PROTOCOLS FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS THAT WE READ, AND I DON'T READ AT EVERY MEETING, BUT I DO, IF I SEE WE HAVE MANY NEW SPEAKERS, IS THAT YOU ARE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL PRESENTERS AND REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING OR MAKING ANY COMMENTS WHILE A PERSON IS PRESENTING AND THIS IS ALL IN THE POLICY, BATTLEGROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS POLICY 1,400 STATES THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY TERMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL STATEMENT WHEN

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THE ALLOTTED TIME HAS PASSED AND MAY INTERRUPT A SPEAKER TO REQUIRE THE SAME STANDARD OF CIVILITY.

LET ME REPEAT THAT.

THE SAME STANDARD OF CIVILITY THAT THE BOARD IMPOSES ON ITSELF.

IF THERE IS ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD THAT FEELS YOU WOULD READ OUT LOUD FROM A LIBRARY BOOK TO MAKE A POINT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO SHARE THAT WITH ME NOW.

IF YOU WOULD NOT, AND THAT IS OUTSIDE OF YOUR MORAL COMPASS, TO READ THAT ALLOWED IN PUBLIC, AND I CAN TOTALLY RESPECT THAT, WE ARE GOING TO ADD TO OUR PROTOCOLS THIS SENTENCE THAT IS IN ALIGNED WITH POLICY 1,400.

THE BOARD REQUIRES THAT ALL COMMENTS SPOKEN AT THE MEETING BE APPROPRIATE FOR A FAMILY AUDIENCE.

COMMENTS INAPPROPRIATE FOR A FAMILY AUDIENCE CAN BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING.

THERE'S NOTHING BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM OUR CITIZENS AND OUR COMMUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD WHAT THEY WANT US TO HEAR, BUT IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE READ ALOUD. COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

>> WELL, I RAN INTO AN INTERESTING COMMENT IN MY INVESTIGATION THAT I WAS GOING TO SHARE, BUT I DIDN'T GET THE TIME, SINCE IT'S COMING UP NOW.

I'LL SAY THAT I WENT AND TALKED TO ONE OF THE PASTORS ABOUT THE READINGS THAT WERE DONE LAST MEETING, AND THEY EXPECTED TO BE INTERRUPTED.

THEY EXPECTED TO BE STOPPED.

THAT'S RIGHT. THEY WERE SURPRISED THAT NONE OF US STOPPED THEM.

I TOLD THEM, WELL, HONESTLY, I GET YOUR POINT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INAPPROPRIATE.

BUT I'VE BEEN SO TRAINED TO NOT TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME AND SPEAK, THAT I FELT CONSTRAINED NOT TO SAY A WORD.

>> IT'S NOT YOUR ROLE.

IT'S THE ROLE OF THE BOARD PRESIDENT THE VICE PRESIDENT TO INTERRUPT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE YOU HAVE IT. OKAY.

>> IT WAS MY ROLE.

>> I WARN YOU, AND IF SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SAYS ANYTHING I THINK IS INAPPROPRIATE, I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP FROM NOW ON.

JUST IN CASE YOU FORGET.

>> YOU WOULD LOOK TO YOUR PRESIDENT OR YOUR VICE PRESIDENT AND YOU WOULD ASK THEM.

>> SURE. I'LL JUST ASK THEM.

>> WE DO NOT SPEAK OUT.

>> MADAM CHAIRPERSON, IS THIS REALLY APPROPRIATE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> YEAH. EXACTLY. WE ALL SAT HERE AND WE JUST LISTENED.

>> WE DID. BUT I AGREE WITH ADDING THAT STATEMENT TO OUR PROTOCOLS.

>> THOUGHTS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS?

>> YEAH. I GUESS I'M GOING TO NOT NECESSARILY PUSH BACK, BUT I'M GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH THIS ON A CONCEPTUAL BASIS OF HOW CAN I SIT HERE AND NOT LISTEN TO WHAT'S IN THIS BOOK FROM THAT COMMENT, AND AT THE SAME TIME, NOT RESTRICT IT FROM OUR LIBRARY, IF I'M SO UNCOMFORTABLE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.

>> BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S HYPOCRITICAL.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I AGREE.

I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT HOW CAN WE AS A BOARD SAY THAT THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE AND YOU CAN'T SAY THAT TO US IN PUBLIC, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ON ANOTHER TOPIC, SAY THAT, WELL, WE CAN'T DETERMINE THAT THAT'S PORNOGRAPHIC FOR A LIBRARY BOOK.

>> WHAT I WOULD SAY, TED, IS THAT WE AT ANY POINT IN TIME COULD HAVE AN INFANT TO AN 18-YEAR-OLD IN THIS ROOM.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOOKS THAT ARE APPROVED FOR A HIGH SCHOOL AGE LEVEL, AND WHEN A BOOK IS READ ALOUD IN THIS AUDIENCE OR ANY MATERIAL THAT COULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR A STUDENT OR A SMALL CHILD, WHEN A CITIZEN COMES UP, THEY'VE TAKEN AWAY THE CHOICE OF THE ROOM.

THE BOOKS THAT ARE IN OUR LIBRARIES, OUR STUDENTS HAVE THE CHOICE TO CHECK OUT.

THEIR PARENTS HAVE THE CHOICE TO LET THEM READ OR TO NOT READ.

BUT WHEN A CITIZEN COMES UP AND TAKES AWAY THE CHOICE OF EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION.

>> BUT IN POINT, I DO AGREE WITH YOU, TED.

I DO FEEL IT'S HYPOCRITICAL.

NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I JUST HAVE THESE FEELINGS THAT IT'S HYPOCRITICAL.

>> I AM COMING FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF LOOKING OUT FOR EACH AND EVERY STUDENT IN THIS ROOM.

>> WELL, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO COME FROM A PERSPECTIVE IT MAY NOT BE THESE BOOKS, BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER TIMES WHEN SOMEONE WOULD COME FORWARD [OVERLAPPING] FAMILY AUDIENCE AND WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

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>> WE'VE STOPPED CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY IN ALIGN WITH OUR POLICY, WHEN SOMEONE SWEARS, WHEN SOMEONE IS ANGRY, WHEN SOMEONE IS DEFAMING A BOARD MEMBER, I THINK THAT THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT, AND I THINK THAT IN OUR WANT AND DESIRE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS HEARD, WE'VE LISTENED.

BUT IN THE SAME PROCESS, WE'VE ALLOWED FOR THE CHOICE OF EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO BE TAKEN AWAY.

PEOPLE DON'T COME TO BOARD MEETINGS, LIKE YOU SAID, TO BE DAMAGED, AND EVERYBODY'S PERCEPTION OF THAT IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT FOR US TO CHOOSE, IT'S FOR US TO MONITOR AND FOLLOW OUR POLICY.

>> I'M IN FAVOR.

>> IS THERE ANYONE AGAINST.

>> I'M ON THE FENCE. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> DON'T MAKE ME MAKE A DECISION.

>> WELL, IT'S NOT A VOTE.

>> THAT'S GREAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE'S NO ACTION.

>> MAKE A DECISION. IT'S NOT ON ME. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU'RE ASKING TO ADD THE LINE TO THE POLICY.

>> NO, NOT TO THE POLICY.

THE POLICY STATES THAT IT'S NOT EVEN [OVERLAPPING].

>> A PROCEDURE.

>> IT'S A STANDARD.

>> IT'S OUR PROTOCOL.

>> NOT CHANGING THE POLICY JUST ASKING OUR CITIZENS TO BE RESPECTFUL TO US AS WELL.

>> IT CAN BE PUT IN WRITING.

>> YES.

>> YES. THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT IN WRITING.

>> YES. THEIR VOICE IS NOT TAKEN AWAY AT ALL.

>> SUBMITTED TO?

>> THEY CAN BRING COPIES PRINTED IF THEY CHOOSE.

SUBMIT THEM TO LISA, AND SHE'LL PASS THEM OUT TO US.

THEY CAN EMAIL US, THEY CAN CALL ANY ONE OF US AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS COVERED.

>> THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> THERE YOU GO. I'M NOT SHUTTING DOWN ANYONE'S VOICE, JUST MAINTAINING THE STABILITY OF OUR MEETINGS.

>> THAT'S PERFECT.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AROUND THIS? THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO, WERE THERE ANY OTHER DIRECTORS REPORTS? WE HAD A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS.

[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] NO ONE SPEAK.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF UP THERE.

[7. Superintendent and Staff Updates]

>> I'VE GOT NOTHING. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. SHELLY?

>> NO.

>> MICHELLE.

>> NO.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM MR. JOMA.

>> LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION.

>> THANK YOU, BOARD, WE'RE QUITE BUSY THIS TIME OF YEAR, GETTING READY FOR SCHOOL TO START AGAIN.

I'LL JUST GO OVER A FEW PROJECTS THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.

HARVEST DAY JUST GOT OVER, HAD GREAT COORDINATION WITH THEM.

THEY LEFT OUR CAMPUS SUPER CLEAN, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT JOHN AND [INAUDIBLE] HE'S ALWAYS INVOLVED.

AS FAR AS OUR ESCO PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, WE'RE WALKING ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS THIS WEEK.

THE AUDITING HAS STARTED.

IN THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE AND AS I SAID, WE'VE PROBABLY GOT FIVE MORE MONTHS OF THIS PROCESS OF GATHERING INFORMATION AND PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND PUTTING UP PROPOSALS.

WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THE PUT REGARDING ANY INCENTIVES OR GRANTS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN GREAT WITH US AND THEY'RE PART OF OUR TEAM THAT IS ON THE ESCO PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE MENTIONED THE STADIUM, THE UPPER PORTION GOT PAINTED LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

OUR CENTRAL OPERATIONS BUILDING, I'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING FOR APPROVAL.

WE HAD GREAT BIDS THE ESTIMATE WAS 7.7 MILLION.

ROCHE WAS A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, IT WAS LOW AT 7.27, AND WE HAD TWO OTHER BIDDERS AT 7.6, SO EXCELLENT ESTIMATE.

WE'LL BE OFF AND RUNNING NEXT BOARD MEETING.

CASEY BASEMENT OFFICES HAVE JUST WRAPPED UP.

CAPTAIN STRONG, WE'RE DOING SOME REVISIONS OF THEIR OFFICE CABINETS AT LAURIN, WHERE WE HAD KIDS PEELING OUT IN SOME OF OUR FIELDS.

WE JUST COMPLETED SOME BOLLARD AND CHAIN TO KEEP KIDS OUT OF THERE. LOOKS GREAT.

LOUISVILLE, WE'VE FINISHED SOME PLUMBING REVISIONS OVER HERE AT THE SCIENCE ROOM THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED FOR US.

PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL NEW GYM FLOOR IS JUST WRAPPED UP.

WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE OF YEAR PLAN TO REALLY UPGRADE THAT ENTIRE FACILITY.

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THE FLOOR IS OUTSTANDING, THE FEEL IS EXCELLENT.

HAD SOME KIDS OUT, THEY ARE OLDER KIDS, OLDER GENTLEMEN THAT HAD THEM RUN AROUND ON IT AND THEN RUN ON TO THE NEXT FLOOR AND THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW NICE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TOURNAMENTS AT THAT BUILDING, I BELIEVE.

WE'RE PAINTING THE BAND ROOM AT PRAIRIE AS WELL.

OUR THREE CLASSROOMS AT PLEASANT VALLEY ARE PROCEEDING WELL, THEY HAVE TO BE BECAUSE AUGUST IS IN A WEEK.

WE'VE BEEN RE-CARPETING IN A FEW PORTABLES AT MAPLE GROVE.

WE'VE GROUND SOME CONCRETE AT PRAIRIES ENTRYWAY WHERE THEY HAD AN OLD CARPET WE REMOVED THAT AND GROUND THAT DOWN, AS WELL AS SOME FLOORING REPAIR WORK THAT WE GRINDING AT CHIEF MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WHEN I BRING THE OPERATIONS BUILDING TO YOU.

>> YEAH. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK THERE.

THAT'S OVERWHELMING ON THIS. APPRECIATE YOU.

>> THANKS, KEVIN. IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO HEAR ALL THE CRAZY PROJECTS YOU HAVE TO DO IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

IT'S DEFINITELY THE FUNNIER TIME OF THE YEAR FOR YOU.

ANY UPDATE ON THE SCOREBOARD? [LAUGHTER]

>> WE HAD BETS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE GOING TO ASK THAT. WHO WON?

>> TRAVIS DID.

>> THAT'S WHY HE'S LAUGHING OVER THERE.

>> YEAH, I DO NOT HAVE THE DATE YET FOR IT WILL BE IN.

WILL IT BE IN BEFORE THE FIRST GAME? I CANNOT GUARANTEE IT.

IT WILL BE IN SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

REASON BEING ON THAT AS A THREE WAY CONTRACT BETWEEN KCDAS AND DAKTRONICS VERY LARGE FIRMS WITH A LOT OF ATTORNEYS ON SITE, AND WE LOOPED THREE SETS OF RED LINES, AND IT TOOK US TWO MONTHS TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AFTER YOU GUYS APPROVED IT.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE THOUGH.

>> YEAH.

>> WE'RE NOT RULING OUT THE FIRST GAME.

>> BUT I'M NOT GUARANTEEING IT. IT'LL BE GREAT.

>> I THINK PRAIRIE HAS THE FIRST TIME BEING [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] THANKS, KEVIN.

>> HELLO. GOOD EVENING.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE FULL COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.

WE ARE SMALL BUT MIGHTY.

[LAUGHTER] IF SOME OF YOU DON'T KNOW THE TWO TALENTED PROFESSIONALS WHO JOINED ME IN THIS WORK, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THEM.

WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST CHRIS BROWN AND COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, JENNA BUESCHER-HILL.

ONE OF THE GREAT JOYS AND PRIVILEGES OF OUR WORK IS BEING ABLE TO SHOWCASE AND TELL THE STORIES OF OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT GO ON IN OUR SCHOOLS.

WE LOVE TO DO THAT.

IT'S LESS OFTEN THAT WE HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO ELEVATE OUR OWN WORK.

TONIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT.

SOME AWARDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE NATIONAL SCHOOL PUBLIC RELATIONS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE US AND CANADA AS WELL.

EACH YEAR THEY GIVE PUBLICATIONS AND DIGITAL MEDIA EXCELLENCE AWARDS TO RECOGNIZE OUTSTANDING WORK IN TERMS OF NEWSLETTERS, ANNUAL REPORTS, VIDEOS, WRITING, SOCIAL MEDIA, WEBSITES AND MORE.

THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A RECORD NUMBER OF ENTRIES, AND FROM A VERY CROWDED FIELD, WE TOOK HOME SIX AWARDS.

NOW I'LL LET JENNA AND CHRIS EACH TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE AWARD WINNING PIECES.

>> THANK YOU, AMANDA.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE RIGHT HERE, ON THE LEFT, THERE IS A GRAPHIC CALLED THE BGPS PLC PROCESS.

THIS ONE A MERIT AND WHAT IT IS A IS A TOOL THAT IS FOR TEACHERS, AND IT HELPS THEM IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PROCESSES IN WHICH THEY TEACH.

IT'S COMPLEX AND EVEN I HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THAT, BUT WHEN WE LAY IT ALL OUT IN AN INFO GRAPHIC, IT BECOMES SOMEWHAT DIGESTIBLE.

YOU DO STEP 1, YOU DO STEP 2, AND THEN 3, 4, 5, ARE GROUPED TOGETHER IN A VISUAL WAY.

THAT ONE A MERIT.

THEN ALSO IS THE BATTLE GROUND VIRTUAL ACADEMY BRANDING THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR, AND THAT ALSO GOT SOME RECOGNITION AS WELL, SO VERY HAPPY.

>> WE ALSO WON AWARDS OF EXCELLENCE FOR OUR BGPS BULLETIN, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ALL READ RELIGIOUSLY.

THIS IS OUR WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY NEWS LETTER THAT GOES OUT TO ALL OF OUR STAFF THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

[01:55:02]

THEN WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 1,300 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO RECEIVE THIS.

IF YOU'RE NOT SUBSCRIBED, YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND SUBSCRIBE.

IT USUALLY FEATURES A FEATURE STORY.

IF THERE'S A BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD MEETING UP DATE IS IN THERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE VIDEO AND SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE HERE A STORY FROM LAST YEAR, ACADEMY CAMPUS BEING BUILT THERE.

WE USUALLY GET ABOUT 3,500-4,000 VIEWS PER NEWSLETTER.

IT ACTUALLY GETS PRETTY WELL READ SOME OF OUR FAVORITE FEATURES IN THERE.

WE POST JOBS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, WE POST NEWS HIGHLIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

WE WON AN AWARD OF EXCELLENCE FOR THAT.

WE ALSO WON AN AWARD OF EXCELLENCE OR WRITING FOR A STORY ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND HOW STUDENTS AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL AND PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL WORK TO HONOR THAT IN FEBRUARY.

THAT WAS A FANTASTIC STORY TO HEAR FROM STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM, WHY IT MATTERS.

SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH TO HIGHLIGHT BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

IN FACT, AT PRAIRIE, THEY HAD A REALLY COOL ASSEMBLY WITH DANCING, POETRY, MUSIC, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. I FEEL HONORED.

I'LL JUST SAY THIS TO TELL THOSE STORIES, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A TEAM THING.

IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. WE JUST GET TO HIGHLIGHT THE GREAT WORK THE STUDENTS AND STAFF THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

>> THEN DENNY ALREADY SPILLED THE BEANS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT IN ADDITION TO THOSE AWARDS, WE ALSO RECEIVED FROM THE ASSOCIATION THE GOLD MEDALLION AWARD, WHICH IS THEIR VERY TOP AWARD THAT THEY GIVE TO PUBLIC RELATIONS PROGRAMS AND CAMPAIGNS THAT ARE GROUNDED IN STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION BEST PRACTICES.

IT'S HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

THERE WERE 87 ENTRIES THIS YEAR, AND ONLY EIGHT SUBMISSIONS WERE SELECTED TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.

FROM A FIELD OF VERY EXCELLENT CAMPAIGNS, WE WERE ONE OF JUST THREE THAT WERE RECOGNIZED IN THE BOND FINANCE CAMPAIGN CATEGORY.

[APPLAUSE] I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES AND STAFF AND COMMUNITY.

WE FEEL FORTUNATE TO DO THIS WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO DENNY AND SHELLY AND THE BOARD FOR RECOGNIZING THE VALUE OF OUR WORK AND SUPPORTING IT AS WELL.

THEN NEXT, IT HAS SOMETHING VERY EXCITING TO SHARE WITH YOU.

THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG VISIBLE CHANGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR DISTRICT.

JENNA HAS BEEN DOING SOME AMAZING WORK TO LEAD THE RESEARCH AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO HER.

>> CHRIS, YOU MAY SIT DOWN. [LAUGHTER] LET'S SEE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS A HISTORY OF THE VISUAL HISTORY OF BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM WHAT WE COULD FIND.

AS WE'RE DOING THIS REBRANDING PROJECT, IT REALLY ALL STARTS WITH THE RESEARCH.

THAT'S WHY THESE OLD LOGOS ARE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT.

WHAT DID THEY LOOK LIKE? HOW WERE THEY USED? WHAT DO THEY MEAN? THEN STARTING TO THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT LOGO RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THE DANCING FAIRY.

HOW DOES IT BEST REPRESENT US? WELL, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME FOR AN UPDATE.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO BRANDING AND IT ALL STARTS WITH, OF COURSE, THE RESEARCH HERE BUT THEN LET'S SEE HERE.

IN 2023, WE DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND ALL OF OUR GOALS FOR THE DISTRICT AND FIND OUT HOW WE COULD BETTER UNIFY THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

WE MET WITH STUDENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY IN MAY, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED WITH STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER ZOOM.

WE DID A PUBLIC SURVEY WITH OVER 200 RESPONSES AND WE ASKED THE QUESTION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU HEAR BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS? WE GAVE THEM ADJECTIVES TO CHOOSE FROM.

THE TOP SCORING ADJECTIVES USED TO DESCRIBE BATTLE GROUND, SUPPORTIVE, NURTURING, DOWN TO EARTH, PASSIONATE AND LOYAL, FOLLOWED BY UNDERSTANDING, ENGAGING, KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND CHEERFUL.

THOSE ARE THE WORDS THAT I USED TO HELP CREATE OUR NEW LOGO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF OUR REBRANDING PROCESS, I SAY OUR BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A GROUP EFFORT.

AGAIN, WITH THE RESEARCH, THE BRAINSTORMING, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? TAKING A LOOK AT THE SKETCHES AND HOW AM I GOING TO REFINE THIS INTO A MARK THAT WORKS AND WHAT IS IT EXACTLY? THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE LAUNCH, AND THAT'S JUST A SMALL PREVIEW OF OUR NEW LOGO.

NEXT SLIDE.

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INTRODUCING OUR NEW BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS LOGO.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY A SLIGHT SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TWO T'S.

THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS UNITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. [LAUGHTER] ACTUALLY, YOU'RE VERY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

THEY'RE CONNECTED IN THE MIDDLE.

OUR NORTH AREA NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED TO OUR SOUTH.

IT ALSO REPRESENTS AN OLDER YOUNGER FIGURE OR STUDENT TEACHER RELATIONSHIP.

THEN ALSO HAS A HISTORY TO OUR TIMBER INDUSTRY AND THE NORTH.

IT HITS A LOT OF THOSE SECTIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THEN USING, OF COURSE, MOUNT HOLLANDS, HOW COULD WE NOT USE IT A VIEW FROM OUR SOUTH SIDE IN THE WAY WE SEE IT.

WE ALL HAVE BEEN ON THE HIGHWAY GOING UP NORTH WHEN WE SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL VIEW.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FELT LIKE ALL OF US COULD LOVE.

THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THIS ONE. THANK YOU.

YOU GUYS WILL START TO SEE IT ALL AROUND, AS WE CAN DIGITALLY FIRST ON THE WEBSITE AND OVER TIME.

>> IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S GORGEOUS.

>> I LOVE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO GIVE ONE MORE SHOUT OUT TO JENNA.

THIS LOOKS SIMPLE BECAUSE OF ALL OF HER HARD WORK THAT SHE'S PUT INTO THIS.

[APPLAUSE] HER CREATIVITY, AND SHE MAKES IT LOOK EFFORTLESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'LL HAVE IMPACT.

>> LUKE ACTUALLY MADE A PROTOTYPE T SHIRT BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE IT WITH HIM.

HE WANTED TO WEAR IT TO THE PARADE, BUT HE WAS AFRAID WE'D BE UNVEILING SOMETHING BEFORE THE.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

[8. Citizens' Comments]

>> FOR OUR CITIZENS, I WILL SAY, I WILL START WITH.

THIS IS A MEETING OF THE BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND.

VIEW PRESENTATIONS AND HEAR BOARD MEMBERS DISCUSS TOPICS DURING OPEN SESSIONS.

THE BOARD WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS COMMENTS AND ASK THAT THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SIGN IN ON THE SIGN-IN SHEET PROVIDED.

WHICH IS LOCATED CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE.

PLEASE FOLLOW THESE PROCEDURES FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS BY STATING YOUR NAME, LIMITING YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES, AND REFRAINING FROM DISCUSSING CONFIDENTIAL MATTERS.

DO YOU HAVE THE TIMERS? JULIA IS GOING TO BE OUR TIMER, SO WE ALSO HAVE ONE ON THE SCREEN.

WHEN YOU GET WITHIN 30 SECONDS, SHE WILL HOLD UP THE YELLOW, AND WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, SHE WILL HOLD UP THE RED.

IF YOU DON'T SEE HER, DON'T WORRY, I'M GOING TO STOP YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS UP.

TO PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR CONVERSATION.

THE BOARD REQUIRES THAT ALL COMMENTS SPOKEN AT THE MEETING BE APPROPRIATE FOR A FAMILY AUDIENCE.

COMMENTS INAPPROPRIATE FOR A FAMILY AUDIENCE CAN BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING.

BOARD MEMBERS WHO DO NOT NORMALLY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OR PETITIONS DURING CITIZENS' COMMENTS, THEY WILL LISTEN AND GIVE DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM IF ACTION IS DEEMED NECESSARY AND THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING.

FIRST UP, WE HAVE JOEY, AND I'M HORRIBLE WITH NAMES.

I THINK IT'S DURUNS. DID I GET CLOSE?

>> THANK YOU. I PLAYED FOOTBALL AND EVERYBODY MESSED UP MY NAME. IT'S DURUNS.

>> ANNOUNCING TABLE.

>> YEAH. MY NAME IS JOEY DURUNS.

I'M THE PASTOR AT MASTERS BIBLE CHURCH.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

DID WANT TO BRING UP SOME COMMENTS FROM TODAY.

EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WAS UNCOMFORTABLE LAST MEETING.

I THINK THOSE OF US THAT WERE READING THOSE WERE TOO AND THAT PROVES A POINT.

THESE BOOKS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN, BUT THEY'RE NOT APPROPRIATE HERE AMONGST ADULTS. WHY NOT? WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY PARENTAL RIGHTS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID THERE AND I AGREE, BUT WE WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR CHOICE OF FREE SPEECH.

LOOK HOW FAST YOU MOVED ON THAT POLICY.

THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HYPOCRISY, I AGREE. IT WAS HYPOCRITICAL.

YOU CAN'T TALK ALOUD, BUT I'M NOT SHUTTING DOWN YOUR VOICE.

THOSE ARE HYPOCRITICAL STATEMENTS.

I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT THAT THERE'S A LIBRARY POLICY, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME LOGICAL INCONSISTENCIES WITH IT.

LIBRARY POLICY SECTION 8, COMMERCIAL FILMS, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, WILL R-RATED FILMS OR VIDEOS BE APPROVED FOR STUDENT VIEWING? AREN'T EDUCATORS SUPPOSED TO MODEL CLEAR LOGIC AND REASONING AND TO PROMOTE, AS WE HEARD A GOOD THINKING, X-RATED BOOKS ARE OKAY.

[02:05:01]

R-RATED FILMS OR NOT? HOW IS THAT NOT HYPOCRISY? THIS SEEMS TO BE A RECURRING THEME.

WHY DOES THE SCHOOL NEED INAPPROPRIATE PORNOGRAPHIC BOOKS AT ALL? NO ONE'S TAKING AWAY A PARENT'S RIGHT TO LET A CHILD READ A BOOK, AND THAT'S MISLEADING IN SO MANY WAYS.

AREN'T THEY ON AMAZON? AREN'T THEY AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY? CAN'T THEY GET THEM THERE IF THE PARENTS WANT THEM TO READ IT? AS YOU SAID, IF THE STUDENTS ARE NOT CHECKING OUT THE BOOKS, WHY WASTE FUNDING IN THIS AREA? CHALLENGED BOOKS ONLY CHECKED OUT NINE TIMES.

THAT'S NINE TIMES TOO MANY.

AGAIN, WHY WASTE THE MONEY ON THESE BOOKS? I DO HAVE AN ACADEMIC AND EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND WOULD LOVE TO OFFER MY ASSISTANCE IN SHAPING A BOOK SELECTION POLICY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

I'VE EXPERIENCE WITH SKY WORD, CANVAS, AND OTHER EDUCATIONAL TOOLS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN A SELECTION PROCESS, A TRIAL PERIOD MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

NEW MATERIALS WOULD BE INTRODUCED ON A TRIAL BASIS WITH NOTICE SENT TO PARENTS, THE FACULTY, THE PUBLIC, AND THE BOARD, ALLOWING TIME FOR FEEDBACK BEFORE PERMANENT INCLUSION.

I GENUINELY WANT THIS SCHOOL, OUR SCHOOLS TO SUCCEED.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PUBLICLY SUPPORT BONDS AND LEVIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR OUR SCHOOLS, BUT WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, I DEFINITELY CANNOT.

TO THOSE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY, ENTRUSTED WITH A SACRED DUTY TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND TO UPHOLD JUSTICE AS STEWARDS, YOU ARE CALLED TO BE VIGILANT, DISCERNING, AND UNCOMPROMISING IN YOUR STAND AGAINST IMMORALITY, SEEKING TO CORRUPT THE CHILDREN UNDER YOUR CARE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TYLER LONG.

>> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] MY WEAR? [LAUGHTER] I GOT TWO DOZEN OF THEM.

OKLAHOMA STATE. THAT'S RIGHT. BOTH MY GIRLS WENT THERE.

I PAID FOR THIS IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.

BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING OUR COMMENTS TODAY, AND THANK YOU FOR DISCUSSING IT AMONGST YOURSELVES.

THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING CHANGE IN THIS AREA, AND SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE THAT CONTINUED PROGRESS IN ANY WAY, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING CLEARLY ABOUT THIS GOING FORWARD.

IT WAS SAID THAT WE DON'T TAKE RIGHTS FROM PARENTS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO SUPPLY MATERIAL TO MEET THE WHIMS OF EVERY CONCEIVABLE PARENT, EVEN THE MOST EXTREME AMONG US.

A RIGHT FOR PARENTS TO CHOOSE DOES NOT EQUAL AN OBLIGATION FOR US TO SUPPLY.

THAT'S A LOGICAL FALLACY.

ALSO, I HEARD ABOUT HOW COMPLICATED THINGS ARE, BUT BAD ACTORS ALWAYS TRY TO COMPLICATE WHAT IS SIMPLE USING LOGICAL FALLACIES AND DEFERRING TO OTHER AUTHORITIES, I USE THIS METHOD OFTEN WHEN I WAS A CHILD, WHEN I DISOBEYED MY PARENTS.

I WOULD SAY, DAD, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT'S VERY HARD.

MOM TOLD ME SO AND SO.

THESE ARE COMMON TACTICS OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T ENGAGING WITH THE DEBATE AT FACE VALUE IN AN HONEST MANNER.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM 99% OF PARENTS, BUT I WOULD PUT IT BEFORE YOU THAT MOST OF THEM DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW AS OF TWO MONTHS AGO, BUT YOU'VE SEEN ME SINCE I KNOW.

YOU COULD FIND OUT WHAT PARENTS THINK REALLY QUICK, JUST PRINT THIS ON SOME EXCERPTS, SEND IT OUT TO AN E-MAIL, DISTRICT-WIDE, AND SOLICIT WHAT THE PARENTS THINK.

SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHAT'S IN YOUR LIBRARIES, ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY WOULD BE.

MOST REASONABLE PARENTS OBJECT TO THIS AS MOST REASONABLE PEOPLE DO.

PART OF THE POLICY SAYS THAT THE BOOK SHOULD WITHSTAND SCRUTINY BASED ON STRENGTHS RATHER THAN WEAKNESSES, AND I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS CONSISTENT.

IF A EUGENIST WHO WANTS TO OBLITERATE AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE BY CONTROLLING WHO'S BORN AND WHO ISN'T, AND THEY WANT TO PUT OUT A ROADMAP FOR THIS IN THE BOOK.

IS IT TRUE THAT IF THIS POLICY IS CONSISTENTLY APPLIED, THAT THAT BOOK WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, SO LONG AS THEY PROVIDE 90% GOOD MATERIAL ALL AROUND IT, MAYBE WHAT A GOOD DIET WOULD BE OR WHAT IT IS TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE RESOURCES IN A COMMUNITY OR ENVIRONMENTALISM OR ANYTHING OF THAT? WE WOULD ALLOW THE EUGENICS IN BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE WEIGHED ON A STANDARD.

WE AS A SOCIETY KNOW THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS OF RIGHT AND WRONG.

THIS GOES BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS AND NOT ONLY IN WESTERN CIVILIZATION, BUT CIVILIZATIONS ACROSS THE WORLD.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD STANDARDS OF WHAT CAN'T BE CROSSED AND WHAT CAN.

FINALLY, IT WAS ALLUDED TO THE WAZDA SCHOOL LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, HAWKINSON, VANCOUVER, KELSO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ALL THAT.

I WOULD PAUSE TO YOU THAT CONSENSUS DOESN'T MAKE RIGHT.

I DON'T CARE WHAT THOSE DISTRICTS OR AUTHORITIES SAY.

YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER.

YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RE-ELECTED TO MAKE DECISIONS.

YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY BEFORE GOD.

SOLDIERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOLLOWING MORAL ORDERS.

THAT'S THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THE NURNBERG TRIALS.

JUST BECAUSE ANOTHER AUTHORITY TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING, IT'S EITHER RIGHT OR IT'S WRONG, I'D HAVE MORE RESPECT IF WE JUST SAID, YES, THIS IS GOOD TO HAVE IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT DON'T HIDE BEHIND. THANKS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO WITH JUSTIN.

[02:10:05]

I'M GOING TO LET YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME.

>> HI. MY NAME IS JUSTIN HORN BAKER.

THAT'S HOW YOU SAY. THANK YOU FIRST FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING UP HERE.

I AM ALSO A PASTOR AT MASTERS BIBLE CHURCH, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR CONGREGATION THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT I WANTED TO SAY FIRST THAT WHAT'S COMMENDABLE ABOUT THE MEETING IS THAT YOU GUYS ADDRESSED THE ISSUE.

YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THE CONTEXT OF IT.

YOU BROUGHT FORWARD A LOT OF HELPFUL INFORMATION, AND EVEN I REALLY APPRECIATED DEBBIE'S COMMENT ON SPEAKING OF THE MORAL AND ETHICAL ISSUES AND THE PRINCIPLES BEHIND THIS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE STILL CONCERNING.

A FEW OF WHICH WOULD BE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS BEING USED TO BUY THAT MATERIAL? I KNOW MANY OF US ARE.

WHY DO THE LIBRARIAN SUPERINTENDENTS GET TO PICK THIS MATERIAL? WHY NOT THE PARENTS? YOU'RE TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT THE PARENTS BEING SO IMPORTANT IN THIS.

HOW IS IT NOT GLARINGLY OBVIOUS THAT THIS ISSUE IS BASED ON IS ACTUALLY A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED LIKE WHAT TERRY MENTIONED, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING JUST FOR THIS.

BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION YOU GUYS JUST HAD, IT GOT REALLY HEATED UP HERE.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE HEART OF THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION AND THIS DILEMMA RESTS IN THOSE MORAL AND ETHICAL QUESTIONS, AND IT GOES BEYOND THE LIBRARY POLICY.

MORALITY BASED ON STATISTICS IS CALLED MORAL RELATIVISM.

THAT IN ITSELF IS A MORAL POSITION.

IT'S NOT A NEUTRAL POSITION.

MORAL RELATIVISM IS THE MOST COWARDICE POSITION BECAUSE IT'S ALLOWING ANY POSITION, NO MATTER HOW EVIL AND DESTRUCTIVE IF IT ACCOMPLISHES A 51% VOTE.

YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT ANY MORAL EVIL THAT ACCOMPLISHES THAT VOTE IS RIGHT AND GOOD AND VIRTUOUS, AND THAT'S A SURRENDER TO EVIL.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. BY TAKING THAT POSITION, YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY SAYING THAT IF YOU LIVED IN GERMANY IN THE GERMAN COMMUNITY IN THE 1940S, YOU WOULD BE COMPLICIT IN THE NAZI CAUSE MURDERING MASSES OF PEOPLE IN GAS CHAMBERS.

THE PROBLEM HERE REALLY IS SIN, THAT'S WHY I'M A PASTOR, EVIL COMES FROM WICKED PEOPLE, NOT FROM SOME NAMELESS, FACELESS THING.

YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE GOD'S LAW IS WRITTEN ON YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR CONSCIOUS BEARS WITNESS TO THAT.

GOD'S STANDARD IS CLEARLY LAID OUT IN HOLY SCRIPTURE, AND TO DEPART FROM IT WILL LEAD TO THE EXALTATION OF THIS FILTH THAT WAS READ IN THE LAST MEETING.

ALLOWING THE MORALITY OF THE LGBTQ AGENDA, FOR INSTANCE, IS TO ENDORSE ITS WICKEDNESS.

THEIR MORAL COMPASS IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING, WHICH IS WHY 20 YEARS AGO, THEY SAID THAT THEIR PERVERSION WOULD STAY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, BUT NOW IT'S BEING FLAUNTED IN THE STREETS AND PRI PARADES.

THEIR MORALITY JUST CHANGES CONSTANTLY.

YOU NEED TO TAKE A BETTER POSITION THAN MORAL RELATIVES BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> I'M OUT OF TIME.

>> YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. WINN GRICH.

I HOPE HE SAID THE RIGHT.

PROBABLY NOT. EVERY TIME.

>> I WANT THIS TO YOU AFTERWARDS, BUT I WANT TO GIVE IS TO YOU IS THIS THE SAME THING.

>> HI. MY NAME IS WINN GRICH, AND I'M GLAD I CAME TONIGHT BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, MR. WATERS, IS THAT YOU COUNTED EVERYBODY AND YOU SAID THERE WAS ONLY TWO PARENTS THAT SPOKE AGAINST THIS STUFF.

WHAT'S AMAZING IS THAT I DON'T HAVE KIDS IN THIS SCHOOL, AND I LIVE IN VANCOUVER.

I PAY $6,000 IN PROPERTY TAX OF WHICH MOST OF IT GOES TO THIS SCHOOL.

YOU DON'T THINK I'VE GOT EQUITY AT THIS SCHOOL? DARN RIGHT, I DO. I HAVE AS MUCH SAY TO WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE TOO.

BECAUSE THIS IS TERRIBLE, AND WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING AROUND ASKING FOR BOND MONEY OR FOR GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR THEM? THAT'S WHY. IF YOU THINK WE DON'T HAVE EQUITY IN THIS SCHOOL, IT'S NOT JUST THE PARENTS, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES TO PAY FOR THIS SCHOOL.

WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT THINGS.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THESE BOOKS THAT ARE NASTY TO BE IN YOUR SCHOOLS.

[02:15:03]

BUT THIS IS WHAT I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TELL YOU.

THERE IS A MEDICAL SCIENCE HAS CHANGED WITH COVID.

THIS IS THE BLAYLOCK WELLNESS REPORT, AND I'M PUTTING IT ON PUBLIC RECORD.

BUT THIS IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE I'M GOING TO THE HEALTH BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AND I'M PUTTING THIS ON PUBLIC RECORD, BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE TURBO CANCERS AND THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THESE COVID SHOTS.

THIS IS DR. PIERRE CORY WRITES A BOOK ABOUT THE WAR ON IVERMECTIN USING THOSE MEDICATIONS THAT COULD HAVE ENDED THE PANDEMIC EARLY.

THE OTHER FACTOR IS THE CENTER DISEASE CONTROL ADDED ANTI-VIRAL DRUGS REMDESIVIR TO MANDATE PROTOCOL FOR TREATMENT OF COVID-19, AND THAT WAS TO BE USED IN ALL HOSPITALS.

THE CENTER OF DISEASE CONTROL HAS NEVER TREATED A SINGLE PATIENT AND HAS NO AUTHORITY TO MANDATE ANY PROTOCOL.

THAT WAS ALSO UNPRECEDENTED.

IT SAYS, IN ADDITION, THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWED THAT BY THE TIME THE COVID PATIENT IS IN THE HOSPITAL, THE VIRUS IS DEAD.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE REMDESIVIR IS OF NO USE.

THAT WAS KNOWN TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS DRUG THAT DESTROYS YOUR KIDNEYS IN A RESULT OF DEATH.

AS YOU READ THIS THING DOWN, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE YOUNG KIDS GETTING CANCERS.

ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS SKIN CANCER, MELANOMAS, AND LEUKEMIA, AND OVARIAN CANCER.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT OF THESE CHILDREN THAT WERE VACCINATED BECAUSE OF THESE MANDATES THAT DON'T EXIST BECAUSE I WAS AT THE LAST HEALTH BOARD WHERE MEDFG SAID THERE WAS NO MANDATES IN CLARK COUNTY.

I WANT YOU ALL CHECK THAT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS THE HEALTH OFFICIAL WITH MELNICK THAT GOT A MILLION DOLLARS TO STUDY RACISM AND HEALTH CARE.

AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS MONEY.

YOU TALK ABOUT PRESIDENTS.

THERE'S SO MUCH CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTY THAT WE NEED TO STOP THIS STUFF.

IT'S AMAZING TO ME BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I PUT ON PUBLIC RECORD, I WANTED [OVERLAPPING].

>> WINN PLEASE THAT YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> I'M GOING TO LEAVE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BUT THEY KNEW IT WOULD KILL PEOPLE.

>> JUST A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

WERE STUDENTS EVER MANDATED TO TAKE COVID SHOTS?

>> NO.

>> WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> WITH STAFF?

>> YES.

>> STAFF WAS REQUIRED, BUT THEY HAD THE EXCEPTION OPPORTUNITY.

>> YES.

>> ELLY STRAPSON.

>> HELLO.

>> HELLO.

>> HELLO, BOARD. IT IS GOOD TO BE BACK IN PERSON, SEE YOUR SMILING FACES, INSTEAD OF TINY LITTLE BLIPS ON MY COMPUTER SCREEN WHERE I'VE SEEN YOU THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

IT WAS ALSO REALLY GREAT TO SEE YOU, MARY, ON SATURDAY, CHEERING US ALL ON AS WE WERE WALKING IN THE PARADE, CELEBRATING THIS AMAZING DISTRICT.

THANK YOU, AMANDA FOR ORGANIZING OUR MOTLEY CRUE.

IT WAS A GREAT HONOR TO BE PART OF THE TEAM ON SATURDAY.

BUT THE TOPIC I NEED TO ADDRESS TONIGHT IS ONE THAT I AM ALSO VERY FRANKLY TIRED OF HAVING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT SINCE A SMALL GROUP OF CITIZENS CAN'T SEEM TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, I GUESS, HERE WE GO AGAIN.

I WILL TRY TO MAKE MY POINT SHORT, AND THAT IS THAT HAVING ACCESS TO MATERIAL, WHETHER CONTROVERSIAL OR NOT, DOES NOT INFRINGE ON ANY PARENTS OR STUDENTS RIGHTS.

PERIOD. THEY ARE NOT FORCED TO LOOK AT, PICK UP, OR IN ANY WAY ENGAGE WITH SAID MATERIAL.

THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH THAT MATERIAL AND EVEN PREVENT THEIR OWN CHILDREN FROM ACCESSING AND, OR ENGAGING WITH IT.

HOWEVER, RESTRICTING MATERIAL, WHETHER CONTROVERSIAL OR NOT IS AN INFRINGEMENT ON EVERYONE ELSE'S RIGHTS, MY RIGHTS, AS A PARENT, MY CHILD'S RIGHTS TO ACCESS AND ENGAGE THIS MATERIAL.

PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBRARIES ARE NOT PRIVATE HOMES.

THEY ARE NOT CHURCHES.

THEY ARE SAFE PUBLIC SPACES WITH COLLECTIONS OF DIVERSE MATERIAL FOR DIVERSE PEOPLE THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY ARE LOCATED.

THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR CONTINUING TO PROTECT EVERYONE'S RIGHTS IN THIS DISTRICT, AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING, AND NOT GIVING WAY TO THE CEASELESS BULLYING TACTICS OF THIS SMALL, BUT VERY LOUD GROUP.

I HOPE SOMETIME SOON WE CAN PLEASE MOVE ON TO

[02:20:02]

MORE PRODUCTIVE THINGS THAN CANCEL CULTURE AND CENSORSHIP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. EUNICE INGER-MANSON.

>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD.

MY NAME IS EUNICE INGER-MANSON.

MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE/HER.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE ALL WANT THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BE SAFE AND TO THRIVE, BUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, MORAL AND RELIGIOUS SCRUPLES AND STANDARDS.

WHAT ONE SEES AS RIGHT, GOOD, AND NECESSARY IS SOMETIMES OFFENSIVE AND UNACCEPTABLE TO SOMEONE ELSE.

ONE GROUP ADVOCATES FOR CERTAIN BOOKS THAT ANOTHER GROUP WOULD LIKE TO SEE BANNED.

INDEED, IN A ZEAL TO PROTECT, WE CAN BECOME FEARFUL AND CONTROLLING, AND END UP FORCING OUR OWN VALUES DOWN SOMEONE ELSE'S THROAT IN THIS LAND OF FREEDOM.

IN SOME DISTRICTS, I HEAR OF ONE GROUP GETTING HUNDREDS OF BOOKS PULLED OFF THEIR SHELVES, AND ANOTHER GROUP TRYING TO PULL THE BIBLE OFF THE SHELVES, ALL FOR INAPPROPRIATE CONTENTS.

WHERE IS A SWEET SPOT? HOW CAN WE GROW FREE CITIZENS, AND ALSO KEEP THEM SAFE IN THE PROCESS? FIRST, WE HAVE HEALTHY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE.

SECOND, THE ANSWERS ARE RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

WE ARE ALREADY TEACHING THE KIDS HOW TO THINK CRITICALLY, EVALUATE WHAT THEY READ AND HEAR BY USING REPUTABLE SOURCES OF INFORMATION, SEE THINGS FROM MULTIPLE POINTS OF VIEW, AND MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS.

WE ARE TEACHING THEM HOW TO THINK RATHER THAN WHAT TO THINK, AND HAVE RESPECTFUL AND CIVIL DIALOGUE WHEN OPINIONS CLASH.

THE PEOPLE WHO TEACH THEM THESE THINGS ARE OUR OWN AMAZING TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS.

I HOPE THAT OUR PARENTS, AND OTHERS WHO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH ARE ALSO STEPPING UP TO THE CHALLENGE OF MODELING CRITICAL THINKING AND CIVIL DIALOGUE ABOUT VARIOUS ISSUES WE FACE.

I HOPE YOU-ALL HAD A WONDERFUL SUMMER, AND I WISH YOU AND THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT A SAFE AND THRIVING NEW SCHOOL YEAR.

THANK YOU, AND WELCOME

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JENNIFER HINE-WHITNEY.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY A POLICY FROM THE PENINSULA SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I THOUGHT LOOKING AT ANOTHER DISTRICT MIGHT HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> THANK YOU. IT WASN'T ONE THAT I LOOKED AT [BACKGROUND]

>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD.

FIRST, MAY I SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE HARD WORK THAT THIS IS, AND TACKLING THIS ISSUE.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS OR OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT LIBRARY POLICIES, AND I HAVE BEEN PULLING OUT SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO CONSIDER ADDING TO HOURS.

ONE IS PUTTING IN OUR POLICY, THE WORDING THAT PARENTS AND GUARDIANS WHO WISH TO MONITOR THEIR STUDENTS ACCESS TO LIBRARY MATERIALS MAY DO SO BY CONTACTING THEIR STUDENTS LIBRARIAN WHO CAN PROVIDE REMOTE ACCESS THROUGH THE ONLINE LIBRARY INTERFACE.

ADDITIONALLY, PARENTS AND GUARDIANS MAY REQUEST TO REMOVE LIBRARY CHECKOUT PRIVILEGES FOR THEIR STUDENT BY CONTACTING THE LIBRARIAN.

WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN OUR DISTRICT.

I JUST THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL TO ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THE PROCEDURE.

ALSO, WORDING ABOUT CONSULTING [NOISE] OTHER REVIEW RESOURCES SUCH AS COMMON SENSE MEDIA RESEARCH.

I THINK BOTH OF THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL THINGS TO PUT IN THE POLICY NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT ALONG WITH THESE REVIEW SITES THAT ARE BEING USED BY OTHER DISTRICTS, THAT WE ALSO CONSIDER PUTTING BOOK LOOKS IN THERE.

THE REASON WHY IS, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE REVIEW SITES THAT ARE BEING USED BY OTHER DISTRICTS, THEY PAINT A POSITIVE PICTURE OF THE BOOKS THAT THEY REVIEW.

[02:25:07]

THEY DON'T ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT PARENTS HAVE, WHEREAS BOOK LOOKS DOES.

SO IN BEING BALANCED AND OFFERING A BALANCED PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE THAT INCLUDING THAT IN THE POLICY IS A GOOD IDEA, AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WHY.

FIRST OF ALL [NOISE], LIKE I SAID, THEY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT PARENTS HAVE.

SECOND OF ALL, THE PANEL THAT REVIEWS THE BOOKS FOR BOOK LOOKS, THEY'RE MOMS AND DADS.

THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID.

THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTING ANY ORGANIZATION, THEY'RE MOMS AND DADS.

I THINK THAT IS VERY USEFUL MATERIAL OR INFORMATION FOR PARENTS AND THE DISTRICT TO HAVE.

I APPRECIATE HOW COMPLICATED THIS HAS BECOME.

I FOLLOWED HB 2331 WHEN IT WAS GOING THROUGH LEGISLATURE.

IN FACT, I TESTIFIED BEFORE THE HOUSE EDUCATION COMMITTEE ABOUT IT.

WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE WE CAN AGREE THAT THE MATERIAL WE HEARD AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING REALLY IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR [OVERLAPPING]. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JESSICA COLE,

>> HELLO, BOARD. MY NAME IS JESSICA COLE.

I LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. I'VE HAD KIDS IN THE DISTRICT.

I FIRST WANT TO SAY, WELCOME [INAUDIBLE] FOR BEING ON THE BOARD, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, JULIA.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DANNY FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT INFORMATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE TED'S INPUT, REHASHING THE LAW COMPONENT TO IT AND WITH TED AND JACKIE SAYING, IT'S ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL PARENTS RIGHTS FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND NOT FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S CHILDREN.

MY MOM IS AN AVID READER, AND SHE JUST SKIPS THE PART SHE DOESN'T WANT TO READ.

MY DAD HAS BEEN AN ORDAINED MINISTER.

WELL, BOTH MY PARENTS, NOT JUST MY DAD, BUT THEY ARE BOTH HIGHLY OPPOSED TO REMOVING BOOKS OR BANNING BOOKS.

WHILE I HAVEN'T ALWAYS TRUSTED BOARD MEMBERS AND OR STAFF IN THE DISTRICT TO SUPPORT MY LGBTQ CHILDREN OR OTHER LGBTQ STUDENTS, I HAVE NEVER TOLD PEOPLE TO NOT VOTE ON THE BONDS OR LEVIES BECAUSE OF MY LACK OF TRUST.

I SUPPORT THE BONDS AND LEVIES, SO THEY WILL SUPPORT THE STUDENTS, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THE STUDENTS BECAUSE OF MY DISTRUST OF PEOPLE.

WHEN SITUATIONS HAVE ARISEN IN THE DISTRICT WITH MY KIDS, ISSUES BECAUSE THEY WERE LGBTQ, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO THE DISTRICT EITHER INFORMALLY OR THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES, OR THE ADMIN AT THE SCHOOLS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF THAT HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ME.

MAYBE I HAVEN'T ALWAYS GOTTEN THE RESULT I WANTED.

MAYBE SOMETIMES I FELT THAT THERE WAS NOTHING.

I'M JUST THINKING BROADLY.

I'M JUST PROCESSING AS I'M TALKING.

BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE HAD TO SUPPORT, PARTICULARLY MY LGBTQ STUDENTS AND TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THEY'RE AT DISTRICT LEVEL OR AT BUILDING LEVEL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU-ALL SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OH NO, I'LL KEEP TALKING.

OH, MY GOSH. I REALLY HERE ABOUT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

IT'S AUGUST 26 FROM 6-8 AT COLONUS PARK, AND IT'S AN EVENT FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF BATTLE GROUND.

IT COULD INCLUDE FREE FOOD, EDUCATIONAL AND INTERACTIVE BOOTH, LIVE MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE KIDS.

THERE'S LOTS OF HANDS-ON ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING A BIKE RODEO AND SAFETY COURSE, FIRE ENGINE AMBULANCE TOURS, AND A KID FAVORITE, THE SQUID HOUSE.

ALSO BICYCLE HELMETS AND BRAND NEW BICYCLES WILL BE GIVEN.

>> TIME IS UP, JESSICA.

>> TIME'S UP?

>> TIME'S UP.

>> I HAD TWO MORE SENTENCES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> JUST WANT TO BE FAIR. BRANDON MILLER.

[02:30:07]

>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.

I HADN'T PLANNED TO SHARE ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT DURING BOARD MEMBER, WATERS EXPLANATION OF THE EXISTING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, I HAD THE UNCTION TO SHARE SOMETHING BUT I KEPT HEARING OVER AND OVER.

I DON'T REALLY MEAN THIS AS A CRITICISM, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU IN THAT.

A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD WAS HOW OUR DISTRICT COMPARES TO OTHER DISTRICTS IN OUR AREA ACROSS THE NATION.

I THINK THAT'S USEFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY ASTRAY AND DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY WEIRD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO JUST STICK TO EXISTING LEGISLATION.

I KNOW WE'RE BOUND BY THIS NEW HOUSE BILL, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OFF THE RAILS AND BE IN CONTEMPT.

BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONSCIENCE ALSO TELLS YOU IN THE FACE OF THE LAW.

I CAN'T QUOTE RCW, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STOP A MOTOR VEHICLE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LANE AND JUST LEAVE IT THERE, THAT'S PROBABLY ILLEGAL.

BUT IF YOU SAW A KID THAT FELL INTO A SEWER WELL AND YOU DID THAT TO PULL HIM OUT, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE PROSECUTED.

SO I THINK WE NEED A CERTAIN SENSE OF DISCERNMENT IN HOW WE JUDGE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE ONLY WAY THAT I'VE BEEN TAUGHT, THE ONLY WAY THAT MY BIBLE TELLS ME IS THAT IT'S YOUR CONSCIENCE AND IT'S THE LAW OF GOD THAT INSTRUCTS YOU.

EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE, YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE.

YOU KNOW THAT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY HURTING, YOU PICK THEM UP.

WE JUST DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT DEFINITIONS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT CLAIMING THAT A DEFINITION DOESN'T EXIST OR IS REALLY HARD TO DEFINE TERMS IS A BIT OF A COP OUT.

YOU MAY REMEMBER SEVERAL POLITICIANS WHO GET INTO IMMORAL TROUBLE, AND THEY SUDDENLY WANT TO DEFINE OR REDEFINE WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND WHAT THE WORDS MEANT.

THAT'S JUST TO THEM TRYING TO APPEASE THEIR GUILT OR TRY TO ESCAPE WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.

STATEMENTS LIKE, WHAT MIGHT BE PORNOGRAPHY FOR YOU IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY FOR ME, THAT'S PRETTY COWARDLY.

DON'T HIDE BEHIND THAT EXCUSE. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. THAT WRAPS UP CITIZENS' COMMENTS, AND BRINGS US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[9. Consent Agenda (Board Vote w/Student Voice)]

ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 24, 2024 REGULAR MEETING, THE JUNE 27, 2024 SPECIAL MEETING BOARD RETREAT, BUSINESS AND OPERATIONS, PERSONNEL REPORTS, FINANCIAL REPORTS, COMPLETED REQUESTS FOR APPROVAL, AND APPROVAL OF THE HIGH SCHOOL CHILD DEVELOPMENT CTE CURRICULUM.

IS THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANY BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR HAVE REMOVED FROM TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA TO BE VOTED ON AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM?

>> THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ABOUT THE CURRICULUM WAS JUST TO ASSURE THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THE BOOKS THAT I EVEN SAW COMMUNITY SAY THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.

I JUST WANTED TO BE ASSURED THAT THOSE THINGS WERE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED PROPERLY BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT LOOKED THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BIAS.

>> THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE IT PASSED FOUR TO ZERO.

DOES ANYBODY [OVERLAPPING].

>> I ALREADY BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ABOUT IT.

>> BUT YOU DID VOTE FOR IT?

>> I DID VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I WAS ASSURED THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE THE CASE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE DEBBIE BECAUSE WE NEED TO PULL IT OFF IF IT WASN'T THAT BEFORE.

>> I VOTED YES FOR IT. THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT.

>> DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO IT?

>> [INAUDIBLE] NOT AGAIN.

>> JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMUNITY CONCERN, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE JUST TO COVER THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING ADDRESSED PROPERLY.

I DO KNOW CPS HAS THEIR STANDARDS THAT THEY USE TO DETERMINE, NEGLECT, AND ABUSE.

USED TO BE THAT YOU COULD WALK INTO A HOUSE AND DETERMINE IT TO BE ABUSE IF IT WASN'T CLEAN, BUT DIFFERENT STANDARDS OF ABUSE NOW OF CLEANLINESS IS NOW FALLING INTO THAT.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDENTS ARE GETTING A REALLY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING SO THAT THEY'RE NOT JUDGING OTHER PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE WORKFORCE.

IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CRITICAL THINKING, I THINK IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCERN THOSE THINGS.

THE CURRICULUM WAS NOT REAL CLEAR ON THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENT.

[02:35:06]

>> ANY OTHER? GO AHEAD.

>> I MOVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

I'D LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THERE IS NO OLD BUSINESS TONIGHT.

[11. New Business (Board Vote w/Student Voice)]

OUR FIRST ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF FOOD SERVICES MANAGEMENT CONTRACT, SAYS MICHELLE.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE DR. [INAUDIBLE] WHICH STILL I DON'T KNOW.

>> THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]

>> NOW, AS YOU KNOW, MICHELLE'S OUT ON LEAVE, SO I'M HERE TO ASK THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR FOOD SERVICES FOR THE 24/25 SCHOOL YEAR, AT THE JUNE 10TH MEETING, THE BOARD APPROVED THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO CHARTWELLS, WHICH COMMENCED A PERIOD OF CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

WE UTILIZE THE OSPI CONTRACT TEMPLATE, WHICH OSPI REQUIRES SO THAT WE MEET STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND WE MADE A FEW CHANGES ADDED TO THE CONTRACT TEMPLATE, AND THE RESULTING CONTRACT IS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND CHARTWELLS.

WHAT WAS ADDED WAS THE TERM, AND ACTUALLY IS JUST A BIT LONGER THAN A YEAR.

WE'RE STARTING AS SOON AS WE CAN SIGN THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW FOR THE TRANSITION OF THE NEW FOOD SERVICE.

IT TAKES A BIT TO GET UP AND RUNNING.

WE ADDED SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE ABOUT THE BREAK EVEN GUARANTEE FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO NEGOTIATE EACH YEAR.

WE CLARIFIED INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, IT SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, COMMODITIES AT CONTRACT TERMINATION, BILLING, LANGUAGE TO ALLOW PROGRAM ADDITIONS AND THE ADDITION OF ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES.

THIS CONTRACT PROVIDES A MIXED FIXED MEAL PRICE OF 422 FOR MEAL AND THAT COVERS ALL THE OPERATING COSTS, WHICH IS THE FOOD, NON-FOOD EXPENSES, LABOR AND MANAGEMENT, AND GENERAL ADMIN COSTS.

WE ALSO HAVE, FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, A GUARANTEE OF A $300,000 RETURN TO THE DISTRICT PROVIDED WE MEET CERTAIN CONDITIONS, AND THOSE CONDITIONS ARE BASICALLY OUR ENROLLMENT, SERVING DAYS REMAIN AS THEY WERE PRESENTED IN THE RFE AND THAT THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT COULD IMPACT THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE, THAT THERE WILL BE NO STRIKES OR WORK STOPPAGES AND NO BAD DEBTS, AND WE LIMIT THE EXPANSION OF COMPETITIVE SALES ON SCHOOL PREMISES, AND WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDED WE HAVE FUNDING TO DO THAT.

WE AGREED THAT THOSE WERE REASONABLE CONDITIONS.

SO WE AGREED TO THAT.

I'M ASKING THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR NEXT YEAR AT A FIXED PRICE OF 422 PER MEAL, AND ALLOW MICHELLE SCOTT TO DOCU SIGN THE CONTRACT.

>> QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

WHAT WAS THE PRIOR FIXED MEAL RATE?

>> THE PRIOR FIXED COST? WE ARE PAYING 4.496, SO WE HAVE ALMOST 28 CENTS IN SAVINGS.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>> THIS SHOWS AUGUST 12TH AS THE START DATE, BUT YOU ALLUDED TO SOONER.

IS THAT THE ACTUAL START DATE?

>> IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOONER.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE LANGUAGE.

I THINK IT'S AS SOON AS WE SIGNED BECAUSE WE WERE ALLOWING TIME FOR OSPI TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT, BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.

>> SO BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY STATES AUGUST 12 IN THIS CONTRACT THAT'S ATTACHED, DO WE HAVE TO MODIFY THAT THEN?

>> I THINK THEY MODIFY IT BASED ON THE STARTING DATE, THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

>> IN THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE, WE CHANGED IT TO A TERM OF TIME BEGINNING AUGUST 12TH.

>> THEN WITH MICHELLE BEING ABLE TO SIGN, SHE WOULD SIGN THE UPDATED WITH THE NEW DATE?

>> YES.

>> JUST CHECKING. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I MOVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVE THE FOOD SERVICE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WITH CHARTWELLS FOR THE 2024/2025 SCHOOL YEAR AND AUTHORIZE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO SIGN THE CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

[02:40:03]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE FOOD SERVICES MANAGEMENT CONTRACT.

I WOULD LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR HER ADVISORY VOTE.

>> PRO.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> AYE [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DO I NEED TO PAUSE THE MEETING?

>> I'LL WAIT.

>> WE CAN TAKE UP.

>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, AND WE'LL START BACK UP AT 8:46.

>> THANK YOU.

[02:45:41]

>> WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF THE CURRICULUM PROPOSAL FOR RIVER HOMELINK MATHEMATICS, GRADE K-8. ALLISON.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL UP OUR PRESENTATION, AND IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY SHORT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MATT KESSLER, VALERIE BUZALSKY, KELLY EISEMAN, AND VICKI CAMPBELL JOIN US, PLEASE.

>> HI GUYS. SORRY.

>> HI.

>> HI. SORRY FOR THE LONG NIGHT.

>> WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THE K-8 MATH CURRICULUM FOR RIVER HOMELINK, AND SO I HAVE A PRESENTATION REAL QUICK. THERE WE GO.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE HAD A DISTRICT MATH ADOPTION IN 2019 WHERE WE ADOPTED THE BRIDGES CURRICULUM FOR GRADES K-5 AND ILLUSTRATIVE IN GRADE 6-8.

THE MATERIALS WERE PURCHASED FOR RIVER HOMELINK AT THAT TIME.

THE RIVER HOMELINK TEACHERS WERE PART OF THE PILOT PROCESS AND WE FELT LIKE THE MATERIALS WOULD PROBABLY WORK AT THE TIME.

BUT THEN AS WE GOT INTO THE MATERIALS, IT REALLY DIDN'T WORK WELL FOR THE PARENT PARTNERSHIP MODEL THAT WE HAVE AT RIVER HOMELINK.

THE TEACHERS WORKED WITH DAVE CRESAP OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF YEARS TO LOOK AT SOME PROGRAMS TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THE K-8 STUDENTS AT RIVER HOMELINK, AND THEY FOUND A PROGRAM THAT IS CALLED GO MATH.

THEY WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE IT AS A SUPPLEMENTAL CORE LAST YEAR AND USE THAT PROGRAM FOR A YEAR AND REALLY DID LIKE THE PROGRAM AND WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT.

THEY PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE IMC.

IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT HAS FOLLOWED ALL THE SAME PROCEDURES AND IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE IMC FOR ADOPTION.

IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU.

THE BUDGET FOR THIS, IT WILL COST ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER $75,000 TO SERVE ABOUT 705 STUDENTS EACH YEAR, AND IT HAS A K-6 COMPONENT THAT WILL BE PRINT AND DIGITAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THEN IN GRADE 7 AND 8, IT IS ONE YEAR OF PRINT AND DIGITAL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE COMPANY IS GOING TO SUNSET THE PROGRAM, WHICH MEANS THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO EXPIRE.

THE TEACHERS AT RIVER HOMELINK REALLY LIKE IT, AND WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS TO TAKE THE WORKBOOK AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HARD-BIND THE WORKBOOK AND TURN IT INTO THE TEXTBOOK SO THAT THE STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO TAKE IT HOME AND USE IT AS THE TEXTBOOK AND PARENTS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED WITHIN THIS AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE TEACHERS ALREADY.

>> LET'S SEE. IT IS A SIX YEAR FOR ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD USE THESE THEN FOR SIX YEARS WITH THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE STUDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. WE DID PUT THIS OUT FOR THE PARENT AND COMMUNITY TO REVIEW.

IT WAS PROBABLY THE PROGRAM THAT HAS HAD THE MOST COMMENTS OF ALL OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH WAS INTERESTING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE WE SPECIFICALLY SENT IT TO THE PARENTS AT RIVER, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

THERE WERE SOME THAT FELT THAT THEY STRONGLY DISAGREED FOR THE PROGRAM, BUT IF YOU READ THE COMMENTS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE PRINT COMPONENT OF IT RATHER THAN THE DIGITAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM FOR RIVER HOMELINK.

IT MEETS THE NEEDS. A LOT OF THE PARENTS THERE DO NOT WANT THEIR STUDENTS TO BE USING DIGITAL, AND SO THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EITHER DIGITAL OR PRINT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BOTH.

LET'S SEE. THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT I PUT ON THE SLIDE FOR YOU TO READ.

BUT SOME THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

IT WAS EASIER TO TEACH, AND THE KIDS ENJOYED IT BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST.

IT'S REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH A LOT OF SUPPORTING MATERIALS.

ONE SAID, I HATED THE GO MATH BOOKS THIS YEAR.

[02:50:01]

MY DAUGHTER REALLY STRUGGLED WITH IT AND FELT HELPLESS TO HER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TEACHER MANUAL FOR EACH LESSON.

IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PART IS ONLINE MATH.

I HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR GOES BETTER.

WE DO HAVE PEOPLE FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES.

FOURTH GRADE MATH WAS VERY WELL DONE, EASY TO FOLLOW AND COMPLETE WITH PLENTY OF RESOURCES AND EXTRAS.

MADE A HUGE LEAP IN MATH THIS PAST SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH IS WHEN WE SWITCHED FROM ZEARN TO GO MATH.

WE LOVE IT, BIG FAN, AND GOOD PROGRAM WITH LOTS OF INSTRUCTION.

ANYWAY, LOTS OF FEEDBACK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS.

I HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> WE MADE THEM WAIT LONG ENOUGH IN THE DARK.

>> I KNOW. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE GOD, COME ON WITH ONE GOOD QUESTION.

>> WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO HELP THE PARENTS THAT DISAGREED WITH AND THEY MADE THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS? WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FEELING SUPPORTED? IF THIS IS ADOPTED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING IT, BUT YET THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.

HOW DO WE MAKE THEM HAPPY AND MAKE THEM OKAY WITH IT?

>> CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC? THANK YOU.

>> TEACHER GUIDES ARE ALL ON PDS, AND I'M PRETTY SURE ALL OF OUR TEACHERS HAVE PROVIDED THOSE FOR OUR PARENTS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE KINDERGARTEN.

I CAN CHECK IN WITH THAT.

BUT AT LEAST SECOND GRADE UP THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE, WE PROVIDE THE PARENTS WITH ALL THE TEACHER GUIDES FOR EVERY LESSON.

MOST OF THEM, THERE ARE ONLINE VIDEOS FOR EVERY LESSON THAT WE ALSO LINK TO THE LESSONS, SO THE PARENTS HAVE THAT EXTRA SUPPORT AS WELL.

>> ARE THOSE ONLINE LINKS ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE DIGITAL COMPONENT OR?

>> THEY'RE ON YOUTUBE.

>> NO. I MEAN, ARE THEY LISTED ONLY IN THE DIGITAL SIDE OR THEY SAY, HEY, GO TO THIS ADDRESS ON THE PRINT?

>> COME FORWARD TO THE MIC. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A TEACHER VOICE.

>> I KNOW.

>> IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WE [INAUDIBLE].

>> EACH OF US TEACHERS PROVIDE EACH WEEK OR FOR EACH UNIT A GUIDE FOR THE PARENTS THAT INCLUDES THE LINKS AND THE HANDOUTS AND THE RESOURCES.

WE OFTEN GATHER A LOT OF OTHER RESOURCES BECAUSE OUR PARENTS ARE ACTUALLY THE PRIMARY TEACHERS AT HOME.

THEY WORK WITH THEIR STUDENTS 60% OF THE TIME.

WE ONLY HAVE 40% OF THE TIME, SO WE SPEND OUR TIME PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER TO HELP THEM BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AT HOME.

>> THE CURRICULUM THAT WE ROLLED OUT IN 2019, WHAT WAS THAT CALLED AGAIN, FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE?

>> OPEN UP OR ILLUSTRATIVE.

>> ILLUSTRATIVE OR OPEN UP RESOURCES.

>> I HAPPEN TO BE A PART OF THAT ROLLOUT OVER AT LAURIN.

IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT THIS SCHOOL WAS A PART OF THE TESTING.

THEY SAW IT FIRST, THEY BOUGHT INTO IT, AND NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT MAYBE WE LIKE SOMETHING BETTER, AND OVER AT LAURIN, THEY STILL GOT WHAT WE ROLLED OUT.

CAN ANYBODY SPEAK TO WHY THEY LIKE THIS BETTER NOW THAN WHAT THEY ROLLED OUT IN 2019?

>> I DON'T THINK WE PROBABLY WERE EVER ON BOARD WITH IT.

THE PROBLEM WITH OUR SCHOOLS, WE SEE OUR STUDENTS TWICE A WEEK.

THAT CURRICULUM IS A BEAUTIFUL CURRICULUM, AND I LIKED IT, I USED IT.

I HAD TO MAKE A VIDEO FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE LESSONS SO THAT I CAN SEND IT HOME, AND THAT'S WHAT I DID DURING THOSE COVID YEARS.

BUT WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE THOSE KIDS TWO DAYS A WEEK, THE OPEN UP RESOURCES WILL GIVE THEM THESE ACTIVITIES.

IF YOU HAVE A TRAINED TEACHER THAT CAN GUIDE THOSE KIDS TO THAT UNDERSTANDING, GREAT.

BUT FOR A PARENT, THEY HAVE TO READ THAT ENTIRE LESSON AND THE TEACHER GUIDE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, TO MAKE ANY SENSE OF THAT LESSON, AND WAS VERY [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE ILLUSTRIOUS REQUIRED MORE SUPPORT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONAL ELEMENTS OF IT.

>> YOUR TEACHERS HAD TO BE TRAINED FOR IT, AND YOU NEEDED FIVE DAYS TO DO IT.

>> THE ILLUSTRATIVE MATH IS MORE OF A INVESTIGATIVE TYPE THING.

IT RELIED ON THE CONVERSATIONS IN THE CLASSROOM WHERE THE KIDS WERE WORKING, AND GROWING, AND TALKING THINGS THROUGH.

AT HOME, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT ACCESS.

>> WITH THAT FAMILY SUPPORT, THESE ELEMENTS WORK A LOT BETTER.

>> EXACTLY.

>> I WILL ADD TO THAT DAVE CRESAP HAD NOTED RIVERS CONCERNS WITH THE PRODUCT WHEN WE FIRST DID THE ADOPTION.

RIVER HOMELINK WAS WILLING TO GIVE IT A TRY AND SEE IF IT WOULD WORK WITH THEIR MODEL, AND WE FOUND THAT IT JUST DOES NOT WORK WITH THEIR MODEL.

>> THANKS, [INAUDIBLE].

>> SIX YEARS, AND WE ARE GOING TO BIND OUR OWN BOOKS, WILL WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH REPLACEMENT OVER THAT SIX YEARS?

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>> ARE YOU ASKING IF THERE IS A BOOK THAT IS DAMAGED OR?

>> PRESUMABLY.

>> I THINK YOU CAN BUY A COPY OR TWO HERE OR THERE, OR YOU CAN BUY THEM ON REPLACEMENT SITES OR BUY THEM OFF THE INTERNETS, AND WE DO THAT CURRENTLY.

BUT AS FAR AS PURCHASING IN BULK, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PURCHASE IN BULK, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO HARD BIND THEM.

>> YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO JUMP IN.

I SAW YOUR HEAD TOWARDS THEM.

>> I WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT PARENTS.

OVER THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY DAYS, AND INSIDE OF THOSE COMMUNITY DAYS, WE'LL OFFER WORKSHOPS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ON HOW TO HELP GET PARENTS UP TO SPEED.

THEN I KNOW ON THE BACKSIDE, THESE TEACHERS DO AN AMAZING JOB OF EMAILING RESOURCES, POSTING RESOURCES ONLINE, USING GOOGLE CLASSROOMS FOR LINKS.

WHAT MRS. BOZOSKI WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT, BECAUSE THIS CURRICULUM HAS BEEN USED FOR SOME TIME, THERE ARE TONS OF TEACHERS THAT HAVE JUST POSTED FREE ON YOUTUBE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO TYPE IN THE LESSON AND IT IS RIGHT THERE.

THEY HAVE GATHERED THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL TO TRY TO HELP.

WE'VE DONE IT QUITE A BIT.

MOST OF OUR FEEDBACK, THE REASON THAT WE LOVE THIS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT EACH UNIT HAS LESSON MATERIAL THAT A PARENT COULD SIT DOWN WITH AND WALK THROUGH THAT MATERIAL WITH THEIR STUDENTS.

WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THIS IS HOW PORTABLE IT IS.

THIS CAN SIT ON THE DESK IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THE INSTRUCTOR, AND THEN IT GOES STRAIGHT HOME, AND EVERYONE'S GOT THE SAME MATERIALS, EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ACCESS TO ALL THE SAME MATERIAL.

OUR PARENTS REALLY LOVE THAT.

ONCE THEY GET ON BOARD WITH THAT, AND THEY SEE THAT, AND THEY SEE THE EXTRA MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE FREE FOR THEM TO ACCESS, THEY REALLY GET TO DIVE DEEP.

I WILL SAY THIS, OUR MATH SCORES AREN'T WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, WE ALL KNOW THAT.

BUT WHEN WE LOOKED, WE TOOK A DEEP DIVE INTO THIS YEAR'S ASSESSMENTS, AND WE'VE SEEN MASSIVE GROWTH WITH OUR KIDS, PARTICULAR WITH OUR TEACHERS THAT HAVE WORKED WITH THIS THE LONGEST.

WE'VE HAD, I THINK YOU.

MRS. CAMPBELL HAS USED THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER PILOT AND SHE'S LIKE, NOT USING THAT, USING THIS INSTEAD IN HER KIDS SHE'S A PHENOMENAL EDUCATOR AS WELL.

BUT HER STUDENTS HAVE SHOWN MASSIVE GROWTH.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND WE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO RESULT IN SOME REALLY GREAT GROWTH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN TO JUST FLIP INTO SOME OF THE LESSONS FOR THE STUDENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, THAT WAS A REALLY BIG MISTAKE ON MY PART.

SECOND GRADE WAS GREAT, BUT EIGHTH GRADE, I OPENED RIGHT UP TO GRAPHING AND I WAS LIKE, OH, NO, THE NIGHTMARES IT BROUGHT BACK.

BUT I LOVED THE LAYOUT OF THE BOOKS.

I LOVED THAT MY ATTENTION WAS KEPT.

I LOVED THAT I COULD STEP ALONG WITH IT.

THERE WERE LIKE, HEY, ASKED A QUESTION, AND JUST TO REAFFIRM WHAT YOU JUST LEARNED.

I'M SURE A LOT OF CURRICULUMS ARE LIKE THAT.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF CURRICULUMS, AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE PATH THAT THESE GO THESE DAYS, BUT I JUST REALLY APPRECIATED.

IT KEPT MY ATTENTION, EVEN IF I DIDN'T WANT TO DO GRAPHING, BUT I REALLY LIKED THE LAYOUT.

I WAS EXCITED FOR YOU TO SAY IT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS, BUT I WANTED TO.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN A TYPICAL ADOPTION IN THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPANY REPS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.

THERE IS A PERSON WHO IS INVOLVED IN JUST THE RENEWAL.

SORRY. BECAUSE THEY HAD USED IT LAST YEAR, THEY WORKED WITH SOMEBODY DIFFERENT FOR RENEWAL FOR THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S REALLY A PURCHASE FOR US IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED YET.

WE'VE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MANY REPS, AND WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S BEEN A COMPLICATED PROCESS.

BUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEY TRIED TO SELL US ON A DIFFERENT PROGRAM FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE.

THE TEACHERS HERE WERE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH ME AND SHOW ME WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS PROGRAM VERSUS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE PROGRAM THAT THEY WANT US TO USE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORKBOOKS AND YOU LOOK AT A TEACHER BEING THE PARENT AT HOME, THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS BOOK AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL US, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS A CLASSROOM WHERE YOU HAVE FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND SOMEBODY TRAINED ON USING IT.

BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PARENT WHO'S DOING IT AT HOME, THIS HAS FAR MORE INFORMATION IN THE WORKBOOK THAT IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE LEARNING OF THE STUDENTS.

>> IT'S A UNIQUE SCHOOL THAT NEEDS A UNIQUE CURRICULUM, ESPECIALLY IN MATH, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH BRIDGES.

I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULDN'T WORK IN YOUR SITUATION.

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I LOVE IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T WORK IN YOUR SITUATION, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR DIFFERENTIATING FOR A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU. IT REALLY SUPPORTS THE PARENTS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYBODY YOU WANT TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ACCEPTS THE FIRST READING OF THE RECOMMENDED CURRICULUM FOR GRADES K-6, GO MATH, HMH PUBLISHERS, COPYRIGHT 2018.

THIS IS A SIX-YEAR ADOPTION, GRADE 7-8, GO MATH, HMH PUBLISHERS, COPYRIGHT 2018.

THIS IS A ONE YEAR ADOPTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE FIRST READING FOR GO MATH.

TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS, GRADE K-8.

WE'D LOOK TO OUR STUDENTS FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTE.

>> APPROVE.

>> APPROVE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. JULIA, DO YOUR SIBLINGS USE THIS?

>> MY BROTHER DID. THIS WAS LIKE THE FIRST YEAR HE ACTUALLY PASSED MATH.

ALL I'M SAYING IS WHEN I USED ILLUSTRATIVE IN EIGHTH GRADE, OVER COVID, I FAILED.

DO THAT INFORMATION OR YOU WILL.

>> BUT WE'RE NOT IN COVID, SO IT DOESN'T APPLY.

>> TRUE.

>> CONFIRMATION OF INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS COMMITTEE REPLACEMENT STAFF MEMBERS.

>> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION THIS EVENING ABOUT THE IMC.

I AM HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE HAD DAVE CRESAP WHO RETIRED, AND SO HE WAS PART OF THE IMC.

WE HAD ONE OF OUR ADMINISTRATORS THAT WAS PART OF OUR GROUP RESIGN.

LESLI COLLUM IS NOW A PRINCIPAL.

SHE WAS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL WHEN SHE TOOK THE POSITION, AND SHE'S FAR BUSIER AS A PRINCIPAL THAN SHE WAS AS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

SHE WOULD LIKE TO PASS THAT ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD SUSAN SMITH, THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL FROM RIVER HOMELINK, AND JEN HAVIG, THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL FROM GLENWOOD HEIGHTS TO THE IMC.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, IT IS A THREE-YEAR TERM.

WE HAVE NINE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN TOTAL.

THE MAIN DUTY OF THE IMC IS THE OVERSIGHT OF THE ADOPTION COMMITTEE.

REGARDLESS OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS ON, THEIR MAIN FOCUS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE ADOPTION OF THE MATERIALS, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS FOR ADOPTING MATERIALS.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THEM AS PART OF THE PROCESS FOR REVIEWING CHALLENGE BOOKS.

IN THE PAST, WE HAVE MET ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, AND WE HAVE UP TO THAT TO A MONTHLY MEETING, AND SO WE WILL START IN SEPTEMBER AND GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR.

WE HAVE SET THE DATES, AND WE PUBLISHED THOSE FOR OUR PEOPLE AS PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT SUSAN SMITH AND JEN HAVIG BE ACCEPTED AS THE REPLACEMENT PEOPLE FOR THE IMC.

>> ARE ALL OF THE IMC MEMBERS STAFF?

>> NO. WE ALSO HAVE TWO PARENT MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE.

>> HOW MANY IN TOTAL ARE THERE?

>> THERE ARE NINE IN TOTAL.

>> I ASSUME IT'S A ROTATING RETIREMENT.

>> YES. IT ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT THAT EVERYBODY CAME ON BOARD AT THE SAME TIME, AND YOU HAD A THREE-YEAR TERM AND THEN SOMEBODY HAD TO LEAVE AND SOMEBODY HAD TO MOVE.

IT'S JUST NOW AN ONGOING YIELD.

YOU WILL SEE ME AGAIN BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW PARENT POSITIONS AVAILABLE.

THE TERM WILL EXPIRE.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, TWO STAFF, TWO PARENTS?

>> WE HAVE MYSELF.

WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WHO IS PART OF THE COMMITTEE OF TAKING NOTES AND PREPARING MATERIALS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WE HAVE TWO PARENTS, A TEACHER LIBRARIAN, TWO TEACHERS, AND TWO ADMINISTRATORS.

>> CAN YOU READ THE?

>> IT'S IN THE POLICY.

>> IT'S IN YOUR PROCEDURES.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I MOVE THE BOARD TO APPROVE SUSAN SMITH AND JEN HOVIGA AS NEW STAFF MEMBERS OF THE IMC.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WE'D LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTES.

>> PRO.

>> PRO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

>>.THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. REVISION OF POLICY 2022 ELECTRIC RESOURCES AND INTERNET SAFETY. MR. MCDANIEL.

>> THANK YOU. THE REVISION TO POLICY 2022, WHICH IS THE ELECTRON RESOURCE INTERNET SAFETY POLICY ALSO KNOWN AS WHAT IS CALLED AN ACCEPTABLE USE AGREEMENT IS RELATIVELY SMALL.

THE CHANGES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BEING MADE ADDRESS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE IS PUTTING US BACK IN LINE WITH THE WASDA BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE, AND THE OTHER MAIN CHANGE THAT CAUSED US TO BRING THIS FORWARD WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF LANGUAGE SUPPORTING AND MANAGING THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPTS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE USE OF TOOLS THAT ARE DOING PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS OF TEXT ESSENTIALLY AND PRESENTING INFORMATION.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PRESENTS A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR SCHOOLS, AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS PRUDENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING THIS FORWARD.

WE HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK IN TRAINING TEACHERS SO FAR AND IN ANALYZING TOOLS THAT WE THINK WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE WHILE ALSO NOT CAUSING PROBLEMS IN THE CLASSROOM.

SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ARE THINGS LIKE EQUITY, ACADEMIC INTEGRITY, I THINK IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT COMES TO PEOPLE'S MIND WHEN THEY THINK OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

ASPECTS OF STUDENT DATA PRIVACY AND WE FEEL THAT WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE RECOMMEND WITH THE TRAINING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE RULES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, THAT WE CAN MITIGATE AND MANAGE THOSE CHALLENGES IN MEANINGFUL WAYS.

THE BENEFITS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, I BELIEVE, FAR OUTWEIGH THE DRAWBACKS, THE INCREASES IN PRODUCTIVITY, DIFFERENTIATION, AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR STUDENTS, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT ALREADY HAVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COMPONENTS BUILT INTO THEM.

I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICY CHANGE FOR 2022.

>> IT'S INTERESTING AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REFERRED TO HOW THE POLICIES WITH THE LIBRARY MATERIALS AND ACCESS ON THE INTERNET DON'T JIVE WITH EACH OTHER.

YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT LIKE PARALLEL AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LAST STATEMENTS IN THIS POLICY FOR THE REVISION.

>> YES.

>> IT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT ACCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE REMEDIAL ACTION FOR STUDENTS WHO ACCESS INAPPROPRIATE STUFF.

>> CORRECT.

>> HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT'S INAPPROPRIATE?

>> THERE IS SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND I THINK THAT IT, TRY TO THINK HOW TO PHRASE IT.

>> WELL, WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, THE LIBRARY THING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE PAIR.

WHAT'S INAPPROPRIATE? WHAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE? WE CAN'T SEEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT HERE WE CAN, MAYBE YOU CAN.

>> I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO SAY THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN DO A BETTER JOB AT DEFINING THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS DEBATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING.

THERE ARE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, THE CHILDREN'S INTERNET PROTECTION ACT IS THE MAIN ONE THAT IS REFERENCED, WHICH IS THE FIRST REQUIREMENT THAT SAID SCHOOLS MUST PROVIDE FILTERING OF OBJECTIONABLE CONTENT.

AGAIN, WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT'S DEFINING BUT NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDING PERFECT CLARITY.

WHAT WE HAVE IS A SELECTION OF FILTERING PRODUCTS OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE CATEGORIES SUCH AS CIPA COMPLIANCE.

THE CHILDREN'S INTERNET PROTECTION ACT IS NORMALLY CALLED CIPA AND YOU TOGGLE THAT AND IT BLOCKS OBJECTIONABLE CONTENT.

IS IT PERFECT? NO. IS IT CHANGEABLE? YES. WE DO HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR REQUESTING CHANGES TO THE FILTERING.

TYPICALLY, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS EITHER INCREDIBLY OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO

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BE BLOCKED OR THERE ACTUALLY IS A REASON SUCH AS IT'S PART OF A ADOPTED CURRICULUM THAT THERE'S CERTAIN CONTENT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN THE CASE WHERE IT WAS QUESTIONABLE.

WE DON'T GET ASKED A LOT TO MAKE CHANGES.

TYPICALLY, IT'S TO OPEN UP ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATELY CATEGORIZED.

>> THANKS.

>> FOR INSTANCE, WHY CAN'T I GET TO THIS? IT'S A MATH RESEARCH SITE, WELL, IT'S JUST A PROBLEM.

SO IT IS NOT PERFECT, I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THIS IS SOLVED THAT.

>> TRUE.

>> IT'S GOT A LOT OF SEARCH ENGINES NOWADAYS ARE USING AI TO GENERATE.

>> CORRECT.

>> A RESPONSE TO A QUESTION YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THEY'RE, PREDICTIVE BASED ON ITS DOING ITS OWN SCAN OF MULTIPLE RESPONSES AND THEN PUTTING IT IN ONE BIG SUMMARY FOR YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY RESTRICTIONS TO THAT WHERE YOU JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD JUST GETTING A BUNCH OF RESULTS WITH KEYWORDS, OR IS THAT FUNCTION STILL GOING TO BE CAPABLE OF SEARCH ENGINES?

>> THAT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION.

>> I ONLY ASKED BECAUSE IT REFERENCES WIRED DEVICES, AND THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PLACE YOU DO THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR A SEARCH ENGINE HAS ITS PROS AND ITS CONS.

IF THE AI DOES NOT PROVIDE A LIST OF REFERENCE SITES WHERE IT CAME FROM, YOU HAVE TO START QUESTIONING, IS THERE BIAS BUILT INTO THIS RESPONSE? IS THERE MISINFORMATION BUILT INTO THIS RESPONSE? A LOT OF THAT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF 2022 AND FALLS MORE INTO 2023.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEACHING STUDENTS TO MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND THEN HOW TO VET IT.

>> OKAY. I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I'VE WITNESSED IT MYSELF I'M LIKE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> IT IS NOT PERFECT AND THE THING THAT WE TRY AND REMIND PEOPLE OF IS THAT THE AI YOU'RE USING TODAY IS THE WORST AI.

TOMORROW, IT'LL BE BETTER.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT WASN'T MEANT TO BE TONGUE IN CHEEK, IT REALLY IS TRUE.

>> THE YOU WALK OUT OF THIS [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE'RE IN THE INFANCY OF THIS TECHNOLOGY.

>> TOMORROW THERE'S A NEW ONE.

>> YES. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> WE ALL KNOW THAT THE KIDS KNOW HOW TO GET INTO THINGS REGARDLESS OF WHAT FILTERS YOU HAVE?

>> CORRECT. THERE ARE WAYS AROUND FILTERS, IT IS NOT A PERFECT TECHNOLOGY, AND I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT IT IS A PERFECT TECHNOLOGY.

>> MY DAUGHTER WENT TO PRAIRIE, AND SHE SAID THE KIDS ARE ON STUFF ALL THE TIME THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SEEN.

>> WE RESPOND TO THAT AND WE TEST OUT THE THEORIES THAT ARE BEING PUT FORWARD OR THE IDEAS OR THE ACCESS THAT IS REPORTED BACK TO US AND VERY RARELY, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO REPLICATE IT AND ACTUALLY DO WHAT THEY SAY IS BEING ACHIEVED.

HOWEVER, I AM NOT DECEIVING MYSELF THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MISS AND WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT IT, WE FIX IT IMMEDIATELY.

I HAVE SOME VERY CREATIVE STAFF.

>> I MOVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVE THE REVISIONS TO POLICY 2022 ELECTRONIC RESOURCES AND INTERNET SAFETY.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO REVISE POLICY 2022.

I LOOK TO OUR STUDENTS FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTE.

>> PRO.

>> PRO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

NEXT, WE HAVE THE REVISION OF POLICY 2023, DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP AND MEDIA LITERACY.

>> THE POLICY DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP AND MEDIA LITERACY.

WE DISCUSSED I THINK SOME OF THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND THIS POLICY JUST A MINUTE AGO.

AGAIN, THE MAJOR CHANGES TO THIS POLICY INVOLVE THE USE AND HOW WE MANAGE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN THE SCHOOLS, THE NECESSITY FOR PROVIDING INSTRUCTION TO STUDENTS, AND NECESSITY FOR PROVIDING AMPLE TRAINING FOR STAFF, WHICH, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY PROVIDING AND OFFERING AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF EXCITEMENT AND THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING IS A VERY BALANCED ONE.

SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS TURNED EVERYTHING ON AND ALLOWED EVERYTHING WITHOUT ANY INSTRUCTION AND WITHOUT ANY TRAINING.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT KIND OF APPROACH.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE,

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AS I SAID, INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT.

>> QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS POLICY UPDATE?

>> I MOVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVE REVISIONS TO POLICY 2023 DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP AND MEDIA LITERACY.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR POLICY 2023.

I WOULD LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTES.

>> PRO.

>> PRO.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS SCOTT.

>> LAST UP FOR NEW BUSINESS, REVISION OF POLICY 2121 SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM.

>> GOOD EVENING BOARD, I AM PLEASED TO BRING YOU YOUR LAST ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL FOR SOME REVISIONS TO POLICY 2121, WHICH IS ABOUT OUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM IN SCHOOLS.

THE POLICY CHANGES ARE LARGELY JUST LANGUAGE CHANGES, UPDATING THE LANGUAGE AND MAKING IT LESS LEGAL EASE.

THE MOST SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IS ABOUT 2/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH THE POLICY.

IT'S TO BRING US UP TO SPEED WITH HOUSE BILL 1230, WHICH REQUIRES US TO MAKE AVAILABLE INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ABOUT SUBSTANCE USE TRENDS, OVERDOSE SYMPTOMS, AND RESPONSE, AND ALSO HOW TO SECURE THE STORAGE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATIONS.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE LANGUAGE FROM OUR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.

AMANDA HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND THEY'VE PROMISED THAT LANGUAGE IT JUST HASN'T COME OUT YET.

BUT THAT'S THE MOST SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO THIS POLICY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IS THERE A REASON WHY MARIJUANA WAS ADDED? IT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE.

>> IT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE.

THAT'S PART OF THE LAWS TO MODEL POLICY, AND IT WASN'T IN THE OLD MODEL POLICY.

IT'S BEEN ADDED, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME MORE OF A PERVASIVE CONCERN FOR OUR STUDENTS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK HOW WE'RE GOING TO PUBLISH THE INFORMATION ABOUT ISSUES?

>> THE HOUSE BILL 1230 REQUIRES THAT WE MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE, SO IT'LL BE ON A SPECIAL SECTION OF OUR WEBSITE.

I'LL LET AMANDA TALK ABOUT WHICH SECTION THOUGH. I DON'T KNOW THAT.

>> WE HAVE DEVELOPED A RESOURCES WEB PAGE AND THAT PAGE IS LINKED FROM EVERY SCHOOL SITE AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SITE, AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE ADDED AS SOON AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. GOOD QUESTION.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYBE A MOTION.

>> THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVED THE REVISIONS TO POLICY 2121 SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAMS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR POLICY 2121.

I WOULD LOOK TO OUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR ADVISORY VOTE.

>> PRO.

>> PRO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT,

[12. Future Agenda Items and Board Events]

WE JUST HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND BOARD EVENTS.

WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL AT OUR NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 12, WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AT 4:30 OR 4:45, I THOUGHT IT WAS 4:45.

>> IT'S 4:45.

>> BUDGET.

>> BUDGET? IT SAYS 4:30 ON HERE, BUT I THINK THE INVITE WAS 4:45 SO IF WE COULD BY THE GO BY THE BE INVITE, SO 4:45.

WE HAVE A NEW TEACHER ORIENTATION LUNCH COMING UP ON AUGUST 14 FOR THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO ATTEND AND THEN OUR BOARD MEETING AUGUST 26.

>> WE HAVE A BY WEEK, SO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING IS THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY INSTEAD OF NORMAL TWO.

THAT'S BECAUSE NEXT WEEK MONDAY IS THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH, SO WE HAVE FIVE MONDAYS IN THIS MONTH.

>> ANY OTHER THINGS COMING UP?

[03:20:02]

WHEN'S THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL? DO YOU KNOW?

>> IT'S DIFFERENT FOR RIVER, NO BECAUSE ORIENTATION [OVERLAPPING] AUGUST 27, TECHNICALLY, I WILL BE THERE.

ALSO BE THERE BEFORE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT.

>> ANY OTHER UPDATES, COMMENTS BEFORE WE WRAP THIS UP? MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:21.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.