[A. Bond Discussion - Denny Waters]
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>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT I'VE HAD WITH YOU, BOTH AS A GROUP, AS A BOARD, AND PUBLIC MEETINGS OR INDIVIDUALLY, I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT A BOND IS SOMETHING THAT THE DISTRICT NEEDS.
I THINK THAT THE BIG QUESTION IS THE TIMING OF THE BOND, AND WHEN DO WE DECIDE TO RUN IT? DO WE DECIDE TO RUN IT THIS YEAR? OR DO WE DECIDE TO DELAY IT FOR A FUTURE TIME? ALL OF THOSE ARE FACTORS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT AS WE EXAMINE THE VARIABLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOND.
HERE WE GO. LET'S GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
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I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE REAL QUICKLY.I WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT WASN'T I? THAT'S MUCH BETTER.
THIS DATA IS TALKING ABOUT EP&O LEVIES, SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THROUGH THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IN THIS, IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH IT, IS WE'VE ENTERED A CYCLE IN ELECTIONS THAT HAVE MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT.
NOT ONLY HAS IT MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR BONDS TO PASS, BUT IT'S ALSO MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR LEVIES TO PASS TOO.
THIS IS I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE RATE OF PASSAGE IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE VOTE FOR THE 60% BOND THRESHOLD HASN'T REALLY CHANGED MUCH; 57.9, 56.2, 59.3, 58.0, AND FOR THE ENTIRE TIME SPAN IS 58.0.
BUT WHAT IT INDICATES IS THAT WHATEVER TIME WE'RE IN, WHATEVER PERIOD OF FLUCTUATION WITH THE ECONOMY OR THE POLITICS INVOLVED.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REACH THAT 60% THRESHOLD.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS IN ORDER TO PASS A BOND, WE HAVE TO ACHIEVE THE SUPER MAJORITY OF 60%.
EVEN WITH ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY, 98% OF EP&OS, THE LEVIES PASSED, BUT WE SEE A DIP IN THE OTHER KINDS.
THIS IS I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING FOR YOU, IS THAT CAPITAL LEVIES, BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A SIMPLE MAJORITY CAPITAL LEVY PUT FORTH TO VOTERS 88% OF THOSE WERE APPROVED WITH AN AVERAGE YES VOTE OF 61.8.
I BRING THIS UP TO YOU BECAUSE A CAPITAL LEVY IS AN OPTION THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY EXPLORE AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT KEVIN IS HERE.
NOW REMEMBER WITH A CAPITAL LEVY, JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION.
A CAPITAL LEVY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE REBUILDING BUILDINGS, BUT WE CAN DO SOME SIGNIFICANT REMODELS WITH BUILDINGS.
WE CAN ALSO DO SOME SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONS WITH BUILDINGS.
WE CAN ALSO WITH A CAPITAL LEVY PURCHASE THINGS LIKE TECHNOLOGY.
WE CAN ALSO PURCHASE CURRICULUM WITH A CAPITAL LEVY.
SO CAPITAL LEVY CERTAINLY HAVE THEIR ADVANTAGE.
THE DISADVANTAGE WITH A CAPITAL LEVY IS THAT THE AMOUNT HAS TO BE PAID BACK OVER A SIX-YEAR TIME PERIOD.
WHILE YOU ARE ASKING FOR A SIGNIFICANT LESS AMOUNT OF MONEY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.
IT'S EITHER EQUIVALENT TO WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR IN A BOND OR IT'S SOMETIMES EVEN MORE IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON A TAXPAYER.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER.
NOW BONDS, THERE WERE 461 SCHOOL BOND AUTHORIZATIONS PUT FORTH SINCE JANUARY FIRST, 2008, WITH ONLY 41% WINNING APPROVAL.
58.6 DID NOT PASS THE SUPER MAJORITY THRESHOLD.
THE BOND DILEMMA CAN BE AT LEAST PARTIALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE SUPER MAJORITY.
THIS YEAR, ONLY ONE OF 13 BONDS RUN IN 2023 ACTUALLY PASSED THEN THAT OCCURRED IN THE PASCO SCHOOL DISTRICT.
HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE AT. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE APPROVAL SINCE 2008, 41% ACHIEVED 60%.
BETWEEN 50-60%, 41.2, BUT BELOW 50% APPROVAL, STILL 17.4. HERE'S A TREND ANALYSIS FOR YOU YEAR-BY-YEAR.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT SINCE COVID, THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE APPROVAL OF BONDS.
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SOMETIMES IN THEIR AVERAGING IN THE 40'S, 50'S, 60% AND THEN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ONLY 30%, 21%, AND 8% PASSAGE RATES.SO I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING SLIDE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW, IT'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
BUT BASICALLY IT SAYS IT DEPENDS ON YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT THERE ARE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO CONFUSION AND MISINFORMATION.
THEY TALK ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, THE SOCIETAL FRICTION, FRUSTRATIONS WITH PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THERE'S THE MCCLEARY CONFUSION.
WELL, ISN'T THE STATE FULLY FUNDED? WITH MCCLEARY COMING DOWN IN THE SWITCH IN HOW WE COLLECTED PROPERTY TAXES, THERE'S STILL THIS MISNOMER THAT TOOK CARE OF BUILDING BUILDINGS AS WELL.
INFLATION AND RISING COSTS ARE CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, CLIMBING ASSESSED VALUATIONS OF HOME PRICES, THIS LEADS TO BELIEF THAT SCHOOL TAXES WILL BE HIGHER, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.
WE KNOW THAT. THEN WHAT'S NEW IN REALITY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ON OCCASION BEFORE, IS THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR REGION, WE ARE SEEING ACTIVE NO CAMPAIGNS AGAINST SCHOOLS.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
SO WE COULD EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO OCCUR.
THIS IS JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WRITING IN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT A LOT OF THESE NO CAMPAIGNS ARE BEING TAKEN ON BY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE OUTSIDE OF DISTRICTS.
IT'S JUST AN ANTI-TAX KIND OF CAMPAIGN.
SO THEY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STRATEGIES ASSOCIATED WITH RESEARCH, LOW VOTER TURNOUT, APATHY, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A BOND AND THE CAPITAL LEVY STRATEGY? I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS AS WE GO IN.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY, AND I'LL SAY UNEQUIVOCALLY, IS THAT WE DO HAVE A TOOL IN OUR TOOL BELT THAT WE HAVE NEVER HAD BEFORE.
THAT TOOL IS OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE'VE NEVER HAD CAC, WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT CONNECTION WITH A GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT REPRESENT THE ENTIRETY OF THE DISTRICT, AND NOW WE DO SO.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BULLET HERE, I COME BACK TO THIS IDEA THAT WE DO HAVE SOME ADVANTAGES IN THIS DISTRICT.
HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO SUBMIT A PROPOSITION TO THE VOTERS.
I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GREAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TO HAVE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SCHOOL BONDS ARE THE ROUND SHADED CHARTS HERE.
AUGUST, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE BEST TIME TO RUN A BOND, ONLY 6.7% ARE PASSING IN AUGUST, NOVEMBER IS A 40.9.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, IT IS HINGED SIGNIFICANTLY ON WHAT'S HAPPENED IN, DURING THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND THE GOVERNOR'S BEING VOTED, THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO PASS THAN IT IS IN A MIDTERM, FOR INSTANCE, NOVEMBER ELECTION.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THE KEY, THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY TO PASS NOT ONLY IN PASSING BONDS, BUT ALSO IN PASSING LEVIES, AND ALSO IN PASSING CAPITAL LEVIES IS THE FEBRUARY DATE.
FEBRUARY SEEMS TO BE THE TIME.
IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE ODDS OF A BOND OR LEVY OR CAPITAL LEVY PASSING, THEN YOU GO WITH FEBRUARY.
THEY TALK ABOUT USING TAX DATA, TAX RATE DATA, KEEPING THINGS SIMPLE AND VISUAL, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING AVAILABLE IN THE DOMINANT LANGUAGES.
SO FOR US THAT WOULD BE HISPANIC, AND RUSSIAN, UKRAINIAN, HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA STRATEGY.
THIS WAS INTERESTING THAT THE OVERCROWDING MESSAGE SEEMS TO RESONATE AND THE PROJECTED POPULATION GROWTH SEEMS TO RESONATE.
WELL FOR US. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A CHECK MARK IN OUR CORNER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE OVERCROWDING AS OF YET, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE RESEARCH TO SHOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE IDEA THAT ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS LOOK AROUND AND SEE IT.
I THINK ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE SEEING THAT THIS IS A GROWING COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO BE UP AGAINST IT IN A FEW YEARS HERE.
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DON'T NEED TO GO OVER PDC, THAT'S JUST US BEING CAREFUL.>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT SAID THE STRATEGIES THAT PASCO USED?
>> YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S ANYTHING THAT IS NEW.
>> BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT.
MONTHLY E-NEWSLETTERS WITH WHAT PAST BOND UPDATES STARTING EIGHT MONTHS AHEAD OF THE BOND.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENTS.
THESE ALL LOOK LIKE COMMUNICATIONS.
>> YEAH. ATTENDED EVERY POSSIBLE IN-PERSON EVENT TO SHARE INFORMATION.
I'VE BEEN PART OF TWO BONDS AS THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT, NOT AS A SUPERINTENDENT AND WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET THE TURNOUT BUT WE GO OUT TO THE ROTARY, WE GO OUT TO THE OTHER GROUPS, THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, CREATING COMPELLING VIDEOS.
YOU WANT TO CREATE COMPELLING VIDEOS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE PDC.
FOR INSTANCE, I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS INTERESTING.
HIGHLINE GOT IN TROUBLE WITH THEIR INFORMATION THAT THEY PUBLICIZED FOR THE BOND BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT IT WAS TOO LEADING.
IT WAS ENCOURAGING THE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR THE SCHOOLS.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO [OVERLAPPING] PRESENT.
BUT IF IT DIDN'T, THEY ENDED UP PASSING THEIR BOND.
THEN THEY GOT A FINE FROM THE PDC, WHICH WAS FOR $600.
SO YOU THINK, WELL, LET'S ROLL THE DICE, LET'S PAY.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT BECAUSE THEY HAD THIS INVESTIGATION ONGOING, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SELL THEIR BONDS UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION WAS COMPLETED.
>> SO THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC FOR THEM BECAUSE IT DELAYED THINGS FOR ALMOST A YEAR FOR THEM.
SO YOU DO NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY NOT WELL PLACED HERE.
>> IF THE CAC WERE TO PUT OUT A FLYER ON THEIR OWN, WOULD THAT BE A WAY TO GET AROUND? [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, THE CAC COULD DO IT, BUT CERTAINLY THE CITIZENS GROWING.
>> BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO READ, SOME OF THESE QUOTES HERE ARE WHAT WAS USED IN THE KENNEWICK SITUATION.
THEY ALSO RECEIVE A $600 FINE, HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE VIOLATION.
BUT SOME OF THESE YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY THINK FROM READING THEM RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THEY ARE A VIOLATION.
THE FIRST-LINE, THEIR EDUCATIONAL FUTURE IS IN YOUR HANDS.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL EXPERIENCE DO WE WANT KENNEWICK KIDS TO HAVE? THEY COULDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE IT APPLIED UNDUE PRESSURE TO THE VOTERS AS MAKING SCHOOLS SAFER [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M JUST [INAUDIBLE] THAT WAY WE CAN SAY THAT.
>> YOU COULD SAY THAT IT WILL PAY FOR SCHOOL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT YOU CAN'T
>> YEAH, NECESSARILY LEAD THE WITNESS.
>> AMANDA IS GOING TO NEED TO HIRE A LAWYER, JUST TO WRITE A MARKETING STRATEGY.
>> YEAH. ANYWAY, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
THIS WAS THE PASCO BOND FLYER THAT THEY DID OF THE ONE OUT OF 13 THAT PASSED.
BUT IT JUST PROVIDES JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION.
I THINK THIS IS AS IMPORTANT AS ANYTHING, MAKING SURE THAT KIDS ARE AT THE FOREFRONT.
>> THE THINGS THAT HAVE, WHAT DID IT SAY? EIGHT MONTHS PRIOR [OVERLAPPING] STARTED?
>> I KNOW. I GET NERVOUS IF YOU STARTED ADVERTISING TOO FAR IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THEN YOU END UP DESENSITIZING THE COMMUNITY TO IT AND THEN THEY CARE LESS OR THEY FORGOT, OR IS JUST, I THOUGHT THAT ALREADY WIN OR WHAT HAPPENED.
>> I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS I THINK YOU'RE SETTING THE TABLE IN THOSE FIRST FEW MONTHS.
THEN YOU'RE RAMPING UP WHERE YOU'RE REALLY GOING AFTER.
>> WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN THAT TWO MONTH RANGE.
>> RIGHT. A STRATEGIC RELEASE OF INFORMATION.
>> YES. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
SOME GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE.
HOPEFULLY, YOU LEARNED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
LET ME SWITCH TO THE OTHER ONE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IT'S A MARKETING CLICHE THAT
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PEOPLE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING SEVEN TIMES BEFORE THEY REALLY RETAIN IT.THE MORE RUNWAY WE CAN HAVE, TO START PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY, THE BETTER.
AGAIN I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY, PICK ABOUT 10 MINUTES OR SO TO GET THROUGH THIS.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS BOND MEASURES.
OUR LAST SUCCESSFUL BOND WAS AGAIN BACK IN 2005.
WE ARE 18 YEARS SINCE WE PASSED THE LAST BOND.
THEN WE RUN IT THREE TIMES; WE RUN IT IN 2016, RUN IT IN 2018, RUN IT AGAIN TWICE IN 2018, ONCE RIGHT AFTER EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT FROM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, AND WE'RE TALKING THE STRATEGIES 360, THAT YOU NEVER WANT TO RUN THEM TOO CLOSE LIKE THAT BECAUSE THERE IS VOTER FATIGUE INVOLVED.
BUT WE CAME SO CLOSE IN THIS ONE, WE CAME WITHIN 200 VOTES OF PASSING THE LEVY THERE.
>> I NEED FROM THAT TIME NOW, ISN'T ANY LESS.
>> YEAH. I WOULD SAY THAT THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGED ABOUT THAT, AND KEVIN CAN COMMENT ON THIS.
>> I MEAN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF AGING FACILITIES, YES.
BUT REMEMBER THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, WHEN THE TAXES, THE BOARD DEDICATED A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO KEVIN TO UPDATE OUR FACILITIES AND DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
WHILE I WOULD SAY THERE IS CERTAINLY STILL A NEED, WE HAVE CERTAINLY ADDRESSED SOME OF THE BIGGER AREAS OF CONCERN.
[OVERLAPPING] YEAH, KEVIN USED TO SAY THAT WHAT WAS THE MANTRA?
>> YEAH, SAFE, DRY, AND WARM WAS THE MANTRA, PROBABLY PRIOR TO BE THIS, BUT IT WAS THE MANTRA EVEN IN TIMES HERE.
>> WE'RE FAILING LEVIES OUT OF THE PASSING BOND.
>> WE WERE IN DOUBLE LEVY FAILURE 2009 OR 2007, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE WERE IN DOUBLE LEVY FAILURE.
THAT BECAME OUR MANTRA, AND IT CONTINUED UNTIL REALLY THE BOARD DECIDED TO ADD THAT EXTRA AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND WE MOVED BEYOND JUST SAFE, WARM, AND DRY.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING OUR FACILITIES AND MAKING THEM STRONGER.
BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND AS THE ANALOGY FROM DAVID LINTNER, THE CAC LEADERSHIP TEAM SAID, " WE'RE DRIVING A REALLY OLD CAR, AND IT TENDS TO BREAK DOWN A LOT AND WE NEED TO MAKE REPAIRS." I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT, FOR INSTANCE, THE AMOUNT OF MONIES THAT ARE SPENT ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AT DISTRICTS LIKE EVERGREEN OR VANCOUVER, OR EVEN CANNES THAT HAVE NEWER BUILDINGS VERSUS OURS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY REPAIRING OUR BUILDINGS BY SPENDING OFTENTIMES LEVY MONEY, WHICH LEVY MONEY IS MEANT TO ENHANCE PROGRAMS, AND WE ARE TAKING A PERCENTAGE OF THAT, AND TAKING THAT OUT AND HAVING TO USE IT TO IMPROVE OUR FACILITIES.
>> REMIND ME, DENNY. WHEN WAS THE LAST LEVY PASSED, '21?
>> MY FIRST AND LAST YEAR TEST?
>> THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER OF '21. YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEVIES AND BONDS.
>> I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE MESSAGING, AGAIN IS CLARIFYING THAT, HEY, WELL WE JUST PASS SOMETHING IN '21.
UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE DIFFERENT COLOR OF MONEY HERE.
>> YEAH. AGAIN REMEMBER THIS SLIDE REFERRED TO THE FIT TEAM, THE FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT TEAM.
EVERYBODY SAYS FIT TEAM, BUT THEN YOU'RE BEING REDUNDANT BECAUSE T IN FIT STANDS FOR TEAM, SO WHEN YOU SAY FIT TEAM YOU'RE ACTUALLY SAYING THE FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT TEAM TEAM.
JUST POINTING THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. THANKS. BUT THIS WAS THE WORK DONE.
THIS REFERS TO ASSESSING CAPITAL NEEDS.
ANYWAY, I THINK THIS IS REFERRING TO THAT EXCHANGE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE.
THE FIT RECOMMENDATIONS PHASE 1, REPLACE GLENWOOD HEIGHTS PRIMARY, AND LAURIN MIDDLE SCHOOL, REPLACE PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME OTHER THINGS,
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LIKE REPLACING THE DISTRICT OPERATIONS BUILDING, WHICH BECAUSE WE'VE NOW REDONE OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN, WE'RE ABLE TO USE IMPACT FEES TO DO THAT.THE DISTRICT OPERATIONS BUILDING IS ACTUALLY UNDERWAY.
THE PLANNING FOR THAT IS UNDERWAY, AND THAT WILL BE REPLACED USING OUR, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?
>> THAT'S THE ONE ON THE BATTLE GROUND PARKING LOT.
>> THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S JUST TO THE SIDE OF THAT.
>> YEAH, WHERE THE OLD CENTRAL SCHOOL SITE USED TO BE.
THIS IS OUR THOUGHT EXCHANGE THAT WE DID, AND THESE WERE THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY OUR COMMUNITY AND STAFF.
YOU CAN SEE THE BIGGER THE WORD, THE BIGGER THE NEED IS, SO TALKS ABOUT THAT.
AND THE BIG NEWS FOR US IS THAT, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 12,235 STUDENTS, THAT WAS OUR ENROLLMENT FOR '22/'23.
TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE PROJECTED TO BE AT 14,467 STUDENTS, SO AN INCREASE OF 2,200 STUDENTS.
>> YOU MENTIONED AT ONE POINT IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS IMPACTS THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE ALLOWED.
>> INTELLIGIBILITY THAT THE STATE WILL MATCH YOU, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ELIGIBILITY, YOU GET NO STATE MONEY.
IF WE WERE TO BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE NO ELIGIBILITY [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE WAY BELOW IN EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE NO ELIGIBILITY RIGHT NOW.
>> WE HAVE NO ELIGIBILITY RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE WILL RECEIVE STATE FUNDS BECAUSE THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU CAN RECEIVE STATE FUNDS.
NUMBER 1 IS BASED ON OVERCROWDING, AND THAT'S THE ELIGIBILITY.
BUT NUMBER 2 IS BASED ON THE AGE OF A BUILDING.
WE DO HAVE ELIGIBILITY IN TERMS OF OUR OLDER SCHOOLS.
IF A SCHOOL IS OVER 30 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE ELIGIBILITY THERE.
WE HAVE SCHOOLS AND WILL RECEIVE A PORTION OF STATE FUNDING TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WANTED TO BUILD A NEW CAMPUS RIGHT NOW, WE WOULDN'T RECEIVE ANY STATE FUNDING FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THAT ELIGIBILITY.
>>OR IF WE MAKE AN EXISTING BUILDING LARGER [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONLY THE EXISTING PART GETS THE STATE MATCHING.
>> SO IT'S A REMOVE-AND-REPLACE?
>> YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR THE LARGER PART OF THE BUILDING.
>> YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR THE ADDITIONAL.
>> HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THE PHASING KEVIN? OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE AND REPLACE, LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE AN AGED OUT PRIMARY SCHOOL BECAUSE IT AFFORDS YOU TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL WHILE YOU'RE STILL HAVING OCCUPANCY IN THE OLD AND THEN DEMOLISH AFTERWARDS IN THE PHASING.
>> THERE'S STRATEGIES ON HOW YOU WORKING WITH YOUR SPI AND THE AMOUNT OF BONDS THAT YOU SELL SO THAT YOU CAN COVER SOME OF THE UPFRONT COSTS ALL ON YOUR OWN, CARRY THAT TO A POINT WHERE SPI WILL PAY YOU BACK.
THAT'S JUST STRATEGIZING ON SALES.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.
ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU NEED TO ASK.
I WOULD SAY THAT THIS WOULD PROVIDE US WITH ELIGIBILITY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENROLLMENT REPORT IN TERMS OF OVERCROWDING.
YOU WILL SEE THAT THE BIGGEST IMPACT FOR US IS GOING TO BE AT THE PRIMARY SCHOOLS, AND AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS BY THE TIME THIS 10 YEARS IS OVER.
WE WOULD STILL HAVE SPACE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME, BUT BOTH SCHOOLS, BOTH PRAIRIE AND BATTLE GROUND WILL BE ELIGIBLE.
BATTLE GROUND GETS ELIGIBLE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE END OF '23.
BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS WILL BE ELIGIBLE IN TERMS OF RECEIVING STATE MATCHING FUNDS, DUE TO AGE NOT NECESSARILY FOR OVERCROWDING.
>> THIS WAS INTERESTING, WE DID A PUBLIC OPINION POLL AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, 46% OF THOSE POLL SAID THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND 46% SAID THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT OR TOO MUCH FUNDING, 8% SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
AGAIN, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE NEED TO REACH THAT SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH IS 60%,
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WE HAVE TO INCREASE THAT BY 14 PERCENTAGE POINTS OF THE IDEA OF GETTING TO THIS NEED ADDITIONAL.>> OF WHICH HALF FOR THAT, NOT AS CHALLENGING TO SWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY LIKE INDIFFERENT.
>> YOU HAVE THAT 8% SITTING OUT THERE.
IF YOU COULD GET THOSE 8% ON YOUR SIDE THEN YOU'RE UP TO 56% AND.
>> IT'S UPHILL BATTLE, BUT NOT QUITE AS STEEP.
>> THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND I THINK IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS DISTRICT.
56% OF THE COMMUNITY POLL SAID THAT TAXES WERE TOO HIGH.
[BACKGROUND] 32% SAID IT WAS ABOUT RIGHT, 8% TOO LOW AND 4% DIDN'T KNOW.
>> I'M ENCOURAGED THE 32% THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT RIGHT.
>> I SAID NO, I'M ENCOURAGED 32% THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT RIGHT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GOOD. YOU GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
[LAUGHTER] SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE IS THAT A LOT OF THE LAND THAT ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH, A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN PASSED ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
AS THAT VALUE OF THAT LAND HAS INCREASED, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THOSE FAMILIES TO COVER THE TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THIS ONE, THIS WAS AN INTERESTING ONE TOO.
IN THAT REPLACING OLD SCHOOLS ONLY RECEIVE 19%, BUT REMODELING OR RENOVATING THE SCHOOLS RECEIVE 64%.
I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE MAKING TEMPORARY REPAIRS TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF AGING, SOME OF THE REPAIRS THAT WERE MAKING LIKE YOU [INAUDIBLE] BACK OR YOU DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S A 15 YEAR FIX, BUT IT'S STILL TEMPORARY.
INTERESTING, THESE ARE OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS.
AGAIN, THESE CONTINUE TO CHANGE.
I JUST NOTICED IN THE COUNTY ASSESSOR THING THAT WAS PASSED OUT THAT OUR TAX RATE FOR OUR LEVY, FOR INSTANCE IS A $70, WELL SIX MONTHS AGO, WAS A $72, SO IT'S NOW A $70.
WHEN WE INITIALLY PASSED IT AS A BOARD [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS A $99.
SO IT'S DROPPED $0.29 PER ASSESSED VALUE.
SOME OF THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE OTHER PERCENTAGE DROP IS BECAUSE OF INCREASE THE ASSESSED VALUE.
>> IT'S A MISNOMER TO SAY THAT THEY'RE PAYING LESS, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEY'RE PAYING LESS PER 100,000 OR LESS PER 1,000.
BUT BECAUSE THEIR HOUSE IS VALUED MORE, THEY'RE PAYING EITHER THE SAME OR A LITTLE BIT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO SLIDE THIS IN THERE.
I WANTED TO PURSUE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THEN THE AREAS ON A SIX YEAR CYCLE OF THEY JUST LOOK AT EQUAL VALUES NEARBY MOST OF THE TIME, BUT EVERY SIX YEARS THEY GO UP AND MAKE PERSONAL INSPECTIONS.
THE BULK OF BATTLE GROUND SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, SO PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SOUTH AND WEST SIDE GOT REASSESSED AND THERE'S ALWAYS A BIGGER JUMP.
EVEN THOUGH THE TAX RATE WENT DOWN, YOUR TAXES WENT UP BECAUSE OF THAT BIG ASSESSMENT.
THE NEXT FIVE YEARS SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STABLE AT PAST HISTORY GOES ON.
UNFORTUNATELY, NORTH COUNTY GETS REASSESSED NEXT YEAR.
>> IN THIS ONE, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT OUR CURRENT BOND RATE IS $0.44.
REMEMBER THAT DROPS OFF DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'LL BE GONE, SO OUR RESIDENTS.
THE PROJECTIONS OF COSTS, $170 MILLION IN LOCAL FUNDING IS APPROXIMATELY $0.50.
THE BOND PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND THAT'S THE REPLACING OF THE FOUR SCHOOLS, WHICH WOULD BE GLENWOOD, LAURIN, PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY AND PLEASANT VALLEY MIDDLE IS APPROXIMATELY $240 MILLION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT $0.70 PER 1,000.
IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE RIGHT HERE OF $0.26 FOR NEW SCHOOLS.
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>> DENNY, IS THERE A WAY TO CORRELATE THAT AMOUNT AND PROJECTED OUT AND MAKE IT PARALLEL WITH THE PROJECTION OF COMMUNITY GROWTH? BECAUSE AS YOU SEE IS THE PROJECTION OF HOME VALUES INCREASE AND THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES INCREASE THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO START TRICKLING DOWN.
I KNOW THAT WHEN WE SET THIS ONE UP, WE SET IT UP FOR TRYING TO GET IT AT A REGULAR RATE.
BUT I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PLANS FOR PHASE ONE BOND AND A PHASE TWO BOND, WHERE THEY START HIGHER AND IT GOES DOWN LOW.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE WAYS TO STRUCTURE THE BOND SO THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT.
>> I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE TO TELL YOU HOW YOU DO THAT OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
>> DIDN'T THEY TRY IT OUT WITH THE 2015 BOND?
>> BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT FLAT.
[OVERLAPPING] WHEN THE 44 WENT OFF, THEY WOULD.
THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AS YOU KNOW, THEY WORKED ALL YEAR AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE SAME BIG NEEDS.
THEY TALK ABOUT LAURIN MIDDLE SCHOOL, GLENWOOD HEIGHTS, PLEASANT VALLEY MIDDLE, PRIMARY, SECURITY UPGRADES, NETWORKING AND CABLE WIRING, ROOF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENTS, TEN-PLEX AT YACOLT, ATHLETIC FIELDS.
SUCH TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS IS CONSIDERABLE THOUGH.
IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THROUGH HERE, YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST $300 MILLION OR THE AMBOY 300 BILLION.
THE AMBOY 300 BUILDING WHEN THEY REPLACED AMBOY WHEN THEY REBUILT AMBOY IN THE 2008 BOND, THEY KEPT THE 300 WING FROM THE OLD BUILDING.
AMBOY, IS AN ENTIRELY NEW STRUCTURE EXCEPT FOR THE GYM AND THIS 300 BUILDING; THE 300 BUILDING IS JUST AS OLD AS PLEASANT VALLEY, LAURIN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S APPROACHING 50 YEARS.
>> IS IT CLASSROOMS? [OVERLAPPING].
>>IT IS CLASSROOMS, IT'S ALSO A LOT OF ELECTIVE CLASSROOM.
THAT'S WHERE THE BAND ROOM IS, THE ART ROOM.
THERE WAS A THOUGHT BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL CLASSES, ESPECIALLY UP NORTH, THAT THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO LOOK AT THE AMBOY BUILDING AND DO SOME SIGNIFICANT REMODELING TABS PUT IN SOME STEM LABS.
>> THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE INVITING FOR.
>> HOW MANY CLASSROOMS ARE IN THERE, IS THAT BIGGER THAN A 10 BLOCKS?
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
>> BECAUSE THAT'S AN OLDER BUILDING, COULD IMPACT FUNDS BE USED TO DO THAT?
>> NO, NOT IMPACT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE WAY WE'VE ABLE TO USE THE OPERATIONS CENTER, FOR INSTANCE, IS BECAUSE IT'S GROWTH OF THE DISTRICT AS WE NEED MORE ROOM.
CAMERAS IS THE SAME THING, THOSE STUDENTS WERE CONSIDERED UNHOUSED.
BECAUSE THEY WERE UNHOUSED BECAUSE WE WERE RENTING THAT BUILDING, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR THEM.
>> DOES THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING QUALIFY FOR STATE MATCHING ON THE AGE?
DAVID CAME IN, TALKED ABOUT THE CAR, CONSIDERATIONS FOR ELECTION TIMING.
[NOISE] WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COST ASSESS VALUE? LET'S JUST GET THE SLIDES BACK. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.
>> NOPE, THE OTHER ONE. WHEN THAT BOND DROPS OFF, THEORETICALLY, CITIZENS COULD SEE A DROP IN TAXES IF THERE ASSESSED VALUE DOESN'T GO UP IN EQUAL AMOUNT OR WHATEVER.
IT'S JUST INTEREST IN ME IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR CITIZENS, IS OUR TAX BURDEN TOO HIGH OR IS IT TOO LOW? THINGS LIKE THAT.
TO ME, AS A TAXPAYER, I LIKE STABILITY.
IF THERE'S SOME SUDDEN DROP, I SUPPOSE I MIGHT BE PLEASED.
BUT IF I KNOW THAT A YEAR FROM NOW, THEN IT'S GOING TO POP RIGHT BACK UP TWICE AS MUCH.
I WONDER IF WE ASK A QUESTION OR SURVEYED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF STABILITY.
I GUESS IT WOULDN'T BE A STRAIGHT REPLACEMENT AT $0.70 FOR $0.44.
BUT THE IDEA OF JUST KEEPING THOSE RATES CLOSE TO STABLE AS A QUESTION VERSUS [OVERLAPPING]
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>> I THINK YOUR POINT IS. WELL, MADE, I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE AND THE CONUNDRUM THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM.
THIS IDEA THAT RIGHT NOW IF WE LET THAT SLIDE OFF, IF WE WAIT A PERIOD OF TIME.
>> PEOPLE AREN'T EXPECT THE NEW LOWER RATE TO BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE NEW LOWER WEIGHT IS THE NORM.
>> IT COMES THE NORM [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BIG JUMP.
>> BUT HAS A $0.26 THING VERSUS $0.70 THING.
>> WE ALSO NOTED THAT PRICES AREN'T GOING DOWN.
WHEN WE RAN THE BOND IN 2018, WE WERE LOOKING AT A $215 MILLION BOND THAT WAS GOING TO REPLACE FIVE SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE PRAIRIE WAS INCLUDED IN THERE AND WAS ALSO GOING TO BUILD A TWO NEW FACILITIES.
BASICALLY THE PRICE IN THE SPAN OF FIVE YEARS INCREASED BY $100 MILLION.
THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ALL POINTED OUT IN YOUR COMMENTS IS THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHEAPER.
THAT IS CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON TAX STATEMENTS, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS.
IS THERE A WAY TO MAY BE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE OTHERS THAT COULD INCREASE AS WELL, SO WE'RE NOT COMPETING FOR AN INCREASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WITH THE CITY OR WITH THE COUNTY OR WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT FIRE DISTRICTS.
>> THAT'S THE LINE OF THE VARIABLE [OVERLAPPING].
>> MANY DISTRICTS AND BATTLEGROUNDS SCHOOL DISTRICT GEOGRAPHICALLY COVERS SO MUCH AREA THAT EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.
WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT QUITE A FEW JUST TO GET THERE.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF COOPERATION IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVERY MAN FOR THEMSELVES, VERSUS HEY LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT.
>> YOU SHOULD READ THE COHERENCE CHAPTER OVER HERE.
>> WELL I GUESS. [OVERLAPPING].
>> OH, I DID. [LAUGHTER] I EVEN HIGHLIGHTED SOME SLIDES [OVERLAPPING].
>> PART OF MY CONCERN ABOUT THE $0.44 DROPPING OFF.
IF WE LOOK AT OUR AREA OVERALL.
WE SAY, OH, THE TAX BURDEN IN THAT AREA COMPARED TO VANCOUVER OR EVERGREEN.
WHATEVER IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THEN THE FIRE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
THE OTHER GOING TO BE COMPELLED TO SAY, [OVERLAPPING] WE COULD PROBABLY PUT ON MORE.
>> I THINK THIS IS THE DISCUSSION THAT WE WANT TO HAVE.
LENEL SAID SHE COULD VOLUNTEER, COME UP HERE.
MAY BE WE PUT TWO POSTERS OR SOMETHING, WE HAVE ONE PRO AND ONE CON.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, I'M SURE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD VOLUNTEER.
[LAUGHTER] SHELLY IS ALWAYS GOOD AT DOING THAT STUFF.
[LAUGHTER] OR YOU CAN JUST MAKE TWO COLUMNS.
NOW MAY BE A PRO COLUMN AND A CON COLUMN.
WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT WAS JUST GOING THROUGH AND PUTTING SOME OF THE PROS OF RUNNING A BOND.
THE CONS OF RUNNING A BOND AND SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
WHAT I HEARD MARK SAY IS, THIS IDEA OF RECENCY IS THE WORD OR PROVIDING TAX STABILITY [OVERLAPPING] AS A PRO.
>> DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW, WHETHER WE RUN ONE, BUT THE TIMING.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER, BUT I THINK TAX STABILITY LENDS ITSELF TO THE TIMING.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT WOULD BE ABOUT RUNNING IT NOW.
[OVERLAPPING] MAY BE THIS IS BETTER PHRASED AS RUNNING THE BOND NOW [OVERLAPPING] VERSUS RUNNING THE BOND.
>> IF WE RUN A BOND IN FEBRUARY, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THE BOND [NOISE] EXPIRES.
>> SORRY. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. IS THERE A GAP? [OVERLAPPING] ISN'T THERE A GAP? IF WE RUN IN FEBRUARY.
>> THERE WOULD BE BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF WE PASS THE BOND IN FEBRUARY, WOULD WE COLLECT RIGHT AWAY, DO YOU KNOW?
>> YOU HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS.
>> YOU HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS.
THEY'RE PROBABLY WOULD BE A GAP IN THE SPRING.
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>> I'M GOING BY MEMORY, BUT I THINK THE STATEMENTS FROM THE COUNTY COME OUT JUST ABOUT IN FEBRUARY.
>> CITIZENS WOULD SEE [OVERLAPPING] WITHOUT THE 44 CENTS.
>> CITIZENS WOULD SEE THEIR TAXES WITHOUT THE 44 CENTS.
THEY WOULD SEE THAT COME OUT WITHOUT THE 44 CENTS.
LET'S GO TAX STABILITY IS A PRO FOR RUNNING IT NOW.
WELL, IT'S ALMOST LIKE TAX STABILITY NOW, BUT THEN ASTERISK, BECAUSE THAT MITIGATES THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IT GO AWAY, EVEN IF WE RAN IT NOW.
>> THEY WOULDN'T SEE IT UNTIL THEIR NEXT STATEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT BY THEN THE ELECTION'S ALREADY OVER.
>> I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT AND I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, IS THAT YOUR TAX STATEMENTS COME OUT ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE FEBRUARY ELECTION.
>> WELL BY THEN, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THEM SOLD FROM OUR SLICK MARKETING.
>> I WOULD PUT VOTER FATIGUE ON THERE FOR LATER, THAT'S AN AVOIDANCE THING.
>> AVOIDING VOTER FATIGUE BY RUNNING LATER.
>> WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU PUT FOR VERSUS RUNNING IT NOW?
>> TED, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID?
>> HOW WOULD RUNNING IT LATER AVOID VOTER FATIGUE WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S AN EIGHT-MONTH RUN UP WHENEVER WE RUN IT?
>> JUST FROM THE RECENT LEVY PASSING EXTENDS THAT OUT FURTHER.
>> THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTS, THE FEBRUARY TIME FRAME HAS THE MOST SUCCESS RATE.
[OVERLAPPING] I THINK WHEN YOU CAN AVOID THE AUGUST, NOVEMBER, BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO BE THE MORE CONTROVERSY REAL [OVERLAPPING] VOTING PERIODS.
>> OUR LEVY WOULD EXPIRE [OVERLAPPING], WE PASS IT IN 21, SO OUR LEVY WOULD EXPIRE IN [OVERLAPPING] 25.
WE HAVE TO RUN AGAINST [OVERLAPPING] 25.
>> EXTENDING OUT LATER COULD INTERFERE WITH THE LEVY [OVERLAPPING] AND WE NEED THAT LEVY MORE THAN WE NEED A BOND.
>> THERE'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD HERE, BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> DEPENDING ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
>> WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO PASS? AND I WOULD TELL YOU FROM THE STANDPOINT OF US RUNNING THE DISTRICT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LEVY.
>> IF YOU WERE TO PUSH ME, I WOULD SAY THAT THE LEVY IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE BOND.
THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT, BUT WITHOUT THE LEVY, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
>> I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE THIS ONE FITS, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET SETTLED ON CONTRACTS.
>> HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT, SO [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
>> WHAT ABOUT RUNNING NOW VERSUS RUNNING IT LATER? ANOTHER ONE THAT'S AKIN TO THE CONTRACT IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T KNOW THIS, BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY CRUNCHED FROM INFLATION AND ECONOMIC POLICY IN GENERAL.
I THINK I WOULD ACTUALLY PUT THAT ON A REASON TO RUN IT LATER.
>> WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER, ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES I THINK, HOW COULD THEY NOT? THAT'S NOT REALLY [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] OUR CHOICE.
>> I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, IT CERTAINLY IMPACTS A REASON WHY NOT TO DO IT NOW.
>> THAT'S WHY BY DEFAULT I PUT IT IN [OVERLAPPING]
>> I MADE A CATEGORY ON MY NOTES PAGE THAT JUST SAID, HERE'S THINGS THAT ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL AND SO I LOOKED BACK AT THE 30 YEAR BOND HISTORY OF [OVERLAPPING] WHAT WENT ON OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT WE HAD A BOND OR 20 YEARS AND WE HAD A BOND.
OH MY GOODNESS, WE HAD TWO RECESSIONS, AND WE HAD A GOOD PERIOD, AND WE HAD AN EPIDEMIC, AND WE HAD ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND THOSE ARE ALL OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
THEN I COME BACK TO OUR CORE BELIEFS.
IS IT GOOD FOR KIDS? [OVERLAPPING] IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR KIDS NOW AND LATER.
[OVERLAPPING] RIGHT? BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICT, IN THE SOUTH END, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPACTED THE SOONEST,
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BUILDINGS LEAST ABLE TO [OVERLAPPING] TO SUPPORT ARE GOING TO BE HIT SOONER.[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S NOT NOW, BUT IT'S SOONER.
>> YES, BUT I THINK THAT ALSO WOULD TEND TOWARD LATER AS WELL, BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY FOR NOW THAT THERE'S A POPULATION GROWTH THAT NECESSITATES NEW BUILDINGS.
WHEREAS IF THE PROJECTIONS ARE ACCURATE, [OVERLAPPING] WE WILL BE LATER [OVERLAPPING] ABLE TO SAY THAT AND POINT TO NUMBERS.
>> I WOULD THINK THAT IN YOUR ECONOMY INFLATION STATEMENT IS IT BE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF A STABILIZATION OR PRODUCTION, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE AIMING FOR?
>> BECAUSE I WOULD ARGUE THAT CONVERSELY, WITH ECONOMY INFLATION, IF WE'RE NOT OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT, LOCKING IT IN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER [OVERLAPPING], IT'S GOING TO HELP US REDUCE COSTS.
>> IT'S TRUE. YOU GUYS ARE A TOUGH CROWD, [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS SUCH A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
>> I'M WONDERING 2005, WE DID PASS A BOND.
>> IS IT WORTH LOOKING BACK, WHAT WAS THE CLIMATE IN 2005? IT HELPED US PASS THE BOND.
>> IN 2005 WE HAD 285,000 SQUARE FEET DEVELOP [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] BUILT 3 FOR CAMPUSES [INAUDIBLE] STATE MAP WE'VE GOT 55TH.
THE STATE GAVE HALF THE MONEY BACK [INAUDIBLE].
MY CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR AROUND 130.
[INAUDIBLE] NOW MY CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE PUSHING 650 [INAUDIBLE].
THAT GIVES US $400 PER SQUARE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S WORTH NOTING, [OVERLAPPING] EXACTLY, THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
THIS CAMPUS AND THE CHIEF CAPTAIN, THERE WAS MANY KIDS IN THIS AREA [OVERLAPPING] OF STUDENTS AS THERE WAS A BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.
THE PAIN OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN A K2, I HAD OVER 800 STUDENTS. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S OFTEN A TERM THAT YOU WILL HEAR USED THAT SOMETIMES THE PAIN NEEDS TO BE FELT, AND TO YOUR POINT, ANDREW, THAT WHILE WE HAVE CERTAIN CAMPUSES, I MEAN, LAURIN IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ANY OF OUR OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE DISTRICT IS DOING FINE WITH SPACE.
>> WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD THAT PAIN.
>> AND I'M NOT SURE RIGHT NOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, I THINK IT GOES TO WHAT ANDREW WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTED.
>> PUT THAT IN LATER THAT BY, NEED NOT YET SEEN BY COMMUNITY.
>> I THINK THOSE WHO'VE SEEN IT KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE JUST DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ENOUGH AND [LAUGHTER] I DON'T I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO COMPLAIN MORE, BUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I JUST LOVE THE [LAUGHTER] NEW PHRASE THOUGH, [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE THAT COULD BE PART OF MY NEW SUPERINTENDENT PLAN.
>> I JUST DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT OF INFLICTING PAIN ON KIDS IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
[OVERLAPPING] WHY DO WE HAVE TO INFLICT PAIN ON KIDS IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING DONE?
>> WELL, MAYBE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU'RE INFLICTING PAIN, BUT IT AFFORDS YOU MORE OPPORTUNITY TO MESSAGE THEIR CURRENT SITUATION.
LIKE AMANDA SAID, GIVING US THE PROPER AMOUNT OF TIME, SO MAYBE A BENEFIT OF LAYER IS THAT YOU HAVE MORE TIME TO MESSAGE TO THOSE COMPLAINTS SO THAT THEY DO MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SEE IT.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE THING. I GUESS, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO BOARD MEETINGS OR I'M AT LEAST NOT HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY OR FROM OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT PEOPLE ARE SO UNHAPPY AT GLENWOOD, IN LAURIN, AND PLEASANT VALLEY.
IF YOU GO THERE, YOU HEAR LIKE, WE REALLY LOVE THE CAFETERIA.
THEY ASK SO NICELY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY ARE DOING WITH WHAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE, AND IT'S NOT OKAY THAT THEY'RE DOING OKAY WITH THAT, BUT THEY'VE EMBRACED IT AND THAT'S THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY WE AREN'T HEARING LOUD COMPLAINTS, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT OUT THERE AS THIS MAJOR NEED, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S JUST OUR FAMILIES ARE SO AMAZING.
THEY'RE LIKE, THIS IS OUR SCHOOL AND WE LOVE IT.
>> I THINK THAT CAN BE REMEDIED WITH MARKETING.
I THINK IF THERE ARE WELL-PLACED LETTERS TO THE EDITOR IN ALL THE NEWSPAPERS,
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AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO BE PHRASED CORRECTLY AND STRATEGICALLY.BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN REMEDY THAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WITH MARKETING.
AMANDA, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT CAN BE REMEDIED WITH A MARKETING STRATEGY THAT'S TARGETED?
>> ABSOLUTELY. REGARDLESS OF THE DECISION, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START COMMUNICATING MORE CLEARLY ABOUT THE NEED THAT EXISTS.
>> I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT, AND MAYBE THIS SPEAKS TO WHAT MARK IS TALKING ABOUT TOO, IS THE EQUITY.
THERE'S NO EQUITY IN OUR BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF FACILITY, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER OBSERVATION ABOUT 2005 [INAUDIBLE] TODAY.
2005, IT WAS A SCREAMING OBVIOUS NEED FOR NEW FACILITIES.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PORTABLES IN HORRIBLE CONDITION WITH KIDS IN PORTABLES, AND THAT WASN'T NEEDED BECAUSE OF OUR ENROLLMENT AND HOW MUCH KIDS WE HAVE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S NOT SO MUCH WITH THE GROWTH OF THE KIDS AND IT'S MUCH ABOUT, IS THAT FACILITY ADEQUATE OR DO WE TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD A BRAND NEW ONE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ADEQUATE.
BACK THEN I WASN'T DOING THAT.
I TEARED DOWN THE 1944 [INAUDIBLE] SCHOOL, EVERYBODY KNEW WHERE IT WOULD GO.
I WOULD SAY THE PUSH IN 2005 WAS TO MAKE NEW SEATS FOR NEW KIDS.
NOW, IT SEEMS MORE LIKE AN ARGUMENT LIKE IS THAT SCHOOL OKAY?
>>KEVIN, DANIEL, MY WONDERING AND HAVING BEEN IN THIS DISTRICT FOR THAT LONG, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD SINCE THEN IS WHAT KEVIN IS TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE NEED WAS IMPACTING SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE VOTERS IN THE NORTH, WHO MAY NOT TYPICALLY VOTE YES TO VOTE YES, BECAUSE THERE WAS OBVIOUS NEED.
BEING SOMEONE WHO'S SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME ON THE SOUTH, AND I HEAR A LOT THAT WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR THE SOUTH-END VOTERS TO SUPPORT THE NORTH-END SCHOOLS, THEY DID, AND THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S RECIPROCATED.
I'M WONDERING, KEVIN, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO YOU THINK THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO VOTE YES, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHERE THOSE SCHOOLS WERE LOCATED?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, THOUGH.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE FIFTH COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A INTENTION DISCUSSION ON WHICH BUILDINGS TO INCLUDE ON PHASE 1, SO THAT THERE WAS IMPACT FELT THROUGHOUT.
I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT ADVOCATING THAT LAURIN AND GLENWOOD AREN'T THE TWO SCHOOLS OF NEED.
>> I DO KNOW THE 2005 BOND FAILED THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
ALL THAT BOND WAS REPLACING LAURIN ON THE FIRST ONE WHEN IT FAILED.
LAURIN DECIDED TO DROP THAT, AND THAT MEANT [INAUDIBLE] DECIDED BACK OR NOT, BUT IT PASSED, SO 2005 TOOK TWO VOTES, HAD TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT TO GET IT TO PASS.
>> DIDN'T WE HAVE A CONVERSATION RECENTLY ABOUT THIS EXACT SCENARIO AND THAT'S WHEN WE EXPLORE THE OPTION OF RATHER THAN REBUILDING THESE THREE SCHOOLS, DOING THE REMODELING AND THEN SPREADING SOME OF THAT OUT AND TACKLING SOME OTHER PROJECTS SPARSELY EVERYWHERE SO THAT THERE WAS A UNIFIED BENEFIT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT?
>> YEAH. THAT'S MORE OF A CAPITAL LEVY APPROACH, AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER FOR YOU.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE SOME MONEY TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE'D BE SPENDING ON [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU HAVE TO STAY BELOW 20%.
>> THAT'S NOT REALLY THE NUMBER ANYMORE.
WE TALK NOW MORE ABOUT PERCENTAGES [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T HAVE ANY EASY ANSWER FOR HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT INTO IT [INAUDIBLE].
BUT THAT'S LAYING OUT THERE TO COMPARE THE HIGH SCHOOLS [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S A LOT OF WORK PRECISELY UP THERE.
>> IF YOU SPEND OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
>> I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT NUMBER IS NOW, BUT THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE CAPITAL.
WE SPEND $10 MILLION ON THAT SITE INSTEAD OF 100.
>> BUT AGAIN, THERE IS THE IDEA WHEN IT COMES TO A CAPITAL LEVY THAT IF YOU SPEND THAT MONEY ON A CAP, IF YOUR VOTERS APPROVE THAT AND YOU SPEND THAT MONEY,
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YOU'RE STUCK WITH THAT FACILITY.YOU'RE NOT COMING BACK IN 10 YEARS EVEN, AND SAYING, HEY, I KNOW WE JUST PUT $13 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY INTO A BUILDING.
>> YOU COULD BUT IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT.
>> IT WOULDN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T GET A STATE MATCH ON THAT.
>> THERE WOULDN'T BE AN EFFECTIVE USE OF FUNDS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> KEVIN, I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE.
I THINK, WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY BEFORE, THE COST WHICH ARE NOW, WHAT DID YOU SAY, 600,000 SQUARE FOOT.
>> SHORT OF A RECESSION THAT'S NOT EVER GOING BACK DOWN.
>> 2008, THE CRASH, 2009 AND '10, WE SAW CONSTRUCTION COST GETTING TO 30% FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
YOU'LL ONLY GET A STRAIGHT LINE [INAUDIBLE].
COMPANIES JUST WANTED TO STAY IN BUSINESS, SO THEY WEREN'T MAKING PROFIT.
>> NOT A GREAT ATMOSPHERE TO PASS A BOND THEN?
>> YEAH. THAT WAS TOO MUCH FOR THEM.
>> THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN DO IS [OVERLAPPING] YOU PASS THE BOND AND WHEN IT'S GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES AND THEN IT CRASHES AND THEN YOU GO.
>> CAN WE PUT THAT TIME IN THERE?
>> I THINK I'M LEARNING A LOT ABOUT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, AND I'M LOOKING AT OUR STATE SUPERINTENDENT'S VISION AND PRIORITIES.
FIRST ON THE LIST IS INCREASE IN ACCESS TO AND PARTICIPATION OF HIGH-QUALITY EARLY LEARNING.
THE INITIAL OBJECTIVES IS UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO PRE-K.
IT MAKES ME THINK OF 300 FAMILIES THAT WE HAD THAT HAD INTEREST IN OUR TRANSITIONAL CARE LEARNING PROGRAMS, AND THEN WE ONLY HAD 90 SPOTS AVAILABLE.
THAT'S 210 FAMILIES THAT COULDN'T BENEFIT, AND POTENTIALLY BE YES VOTERS IF WE CAN SAVE THEM $800 A MONTH IN CHILDCARE BY OFFERING THEM PRESCHOOL.
>> AND THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE MORE CLASSES?
>> WELL, I WOULD ARGUE IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPACE.
WE DON'T HAVE SPACE IN PLEASANT VALLEY.
WE DO NOT HAVE SPACE IN GLENWOOD.
WE DO NOT HAVE SPACE AT MAPLE GROVE.
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF ROOM IN CAPTAIN STRONG.
I THINK THAT AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION OF BOND, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'D GET A LOT OF YES VOTES IF WE CAN SAY WE CAN HAVE FOUR PRESCHOOLS WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A WASHER, MAYBE EVEN SAVED DOWN MONEY WITH THE TAX SIDE OF IT.
>> WOULD THAT BE INTEGRATED INTO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION?
>> YEAH. WHAT OUR PLAN IS IN ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS, THE CAPACITY FOR MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS IS RIGHT AROUND 600, GIVE OR TAKE, DEPENDING ON THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S ABOUT 500 HOUSED IN THE SCHOOL AND THEN A 10-PLEX THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
A 10-PLEX IS TO OTHER KIDS, RIGHT?
>> MAYBE THE BUILDING ITSELF IS?
IN THE NEW DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THAT BY ABOUT 200 STUDENTS WITH 10-PLEX, SO ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, GLENWOOD, LAURIN, PLEASANT VALLEY AND PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY, THEIR CAPACITY WOULD INCREASE BY APPROXIMATELY 200 STUDENTS.
SO WE WOULD BE CREATING A SPACE FOR 800 NEW STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT, AND ESPECIALLY, TO YOUR POINT IN THE SOUTH SCHOOLS THAT ARE WHERE THE GROWTH IS COMING THE FASTEST.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT MESSAGING STRATEGY.
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, THOSE CAN'T BE CONSIDERED UNHOUSED STUDENTS THOUGH.
>> YEAH. UNTIL THE STATE CHANGES SOMETHING. AM I WRONG?
>> THERE'S SOME FUNDING FOR BILINGUAL TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTENERS.
THERE'S SOME FUNDING FOR TRANSITION TO KINDERGARTEN.
WE DO GET SOME FUNDING ON THEM.
THE MORE ACADEMIC INTERVENTIONS WE CAN PROVIDE IN EARLY EDUCATION FIELD, THAT ONLY STRENGTHENS OUR K12 SYSTEM.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR WALK-INS TODAY, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF OUR KINDERGARTENER STRUGGLE.
IT MIGHT BE THEIR ONLY FIRST EXPERIENCE TO LEARNING.
AS A FORMER FROM THE NORTH-END SCHOOL, A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE PRESCHOOL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PRESCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES UP IN THE NORTH-END.
THE MORE OPPORTUNITY WE CAN HAVE, THE BETTER FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
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> WELL, THERE'S NO QUESTION.I JUST WONDER WHEN THE LEGISLATURE WILL MAKE A CHANGE SO THAT THEY CAN BE FUNDED STUDENTS.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HIT MY MIND MOST RECENTLY IS THE IDEA OF TRYING TO PASS A BOND WHERE WE ARE REPLACING OLDER BUILDINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANY NEW FACILITIES.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WHILE WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN GROWTH OCCURRING IN THE DISTRICT, WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT POINT WHERE IT'S SHARP ENOUGH, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE NEED FOR A NEW SCHOOL.
MY CONCERN IS THAT [NOISE] WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE NEED FOR A NEW SCHOOL, OUR NEW K-8 CAMPUS PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 YEARS.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE IDEA THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN A POTENTIAL RICH FIELD SITUATION WHERE THEY PASS THE BOND TO REPLACE AGING SCHOOLS, TO IMPROVE THE EXISTING SCHOOLS AND THEN THEY HIT THAT GROWTH PERIOD AND THEN NEEDED TO COME BACK TO THEIR VOTERS FOR ANOTHER BOND.
NOW HAVE STRUGGLED TO PASS THAT OTHER BOND BECAUSE THE VOTERS ARE LIKE, LOOK, YOU'RE ALREADY PASSED A BOND.
I WOULD THINK THAT OUR HISTORY INDICATES THAT WE ONLY GET ONE BOND PER SO MANY YEARS.
I THINK FOR YOU AS A BOARD FOR US AS LEADERS IN THE DISTRICT IS I KNOW WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT IT TO HURT BUT I THINK THE TIMING IS CRITICAL IN TERMS OF THAT.
IS IT BETTER TO PACKAGE A POTENTIAL NEW K-8 CAMPUS IN A BOND WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THAT AND THEN DO THE REMODELS OR THE REPLACEMENTS AT THE SAME TIME?
>> YOU'D HAVE TO PASS A BIGGER BOND.
>> TO ME THAT TAKES AWAY THAT WHOLE TAX STABILITY ARGUMENT. THAT'S A BIG SWING.
>> YOU CAN SEE IT'S OBVIOUSLY CONSIDERATION.
>> THE DEMOGRAPHIC CLIFF IS COMING.
>> WHAT TIMELINE DENNY, WOULD YOU SEE OR WOULD YOU SAY IN 10 YEARS YOU'RE THINKING THAT WOULD BE THE CASE OR FIVE YEARS?
>> I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE SOONER THAN THAT, TED.
I'M THINKING IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE IN FIVE.
I THINK IT IS MOST EVIDENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT LAURIN.
WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO FOR GLENWOOD WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, HAS IT BEEN THAT LONG? FIVE YEARS AGO.
FIVE YEARS AGO, WE CONVERTED MAPLE GROVE, WHICH WAS A K-8 CAMPUS, AND WE TURNED IT BACK INTO A PRIMARY CAMPUS.
WE NOW HAVE SEVEN PRIMARY SCHOOL.
WE DISTRIBUTED THAT GROWTH IN THE SOUTH BY MOVING STUDENTS TO A NEW K4 SCHOOL.
WE ONLY HAVE SIX MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR GLENWOOD WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT FOR LAURIN.
WELL, GLENWOOD CONTINUES TO GROW AND IS UP CLOSE TO 600 NOW AND LAURIN IS APPROACHING THE MID-SEVENS AND LOOKING TO BE AN 800 SCHOOL.
IT'S THAT AREA THAT CONCERNS ME.
>> IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT NEW SUBDIVISION OVER AT PLEASANT VALLEY WENT IN AND WE THOUGHT, NO, THIS IS GOING TO KILL US BUT WE JUST STARTED TO SEE THOSE STUDENTS ARRIVE AT THE SCHOOL LAST YEAR.
THERE'S ABOUT A FIVE-YEAR LAG FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW SUBDIVISION, TWO FAMILIES HITTING OUR SCHOOLS.
>> WE HAVE SO CONSIDERABLE SUBDIVISIONS GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ARGUMENT FOR THE CAPITAL LEVY BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK IN SIX YEARS AND WHICH WOULD SPEAKING TO TAX STABILITY, PUT RIGHT ABOUT THAT TIME FRAME WHEN YOU WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY ADD A SCHOOL.
>> THEN YOU COULD ADD A SCHOOL. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
>> KEVIN, AT THE CAMPUSES AT GLENWOOD LAURIN ARE BIGGER THAN AVERAGE, RIGHT?
>> NO? ARE THEY ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS ALL THE OTHERS?
>> YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] LAURIN IS THE SAME SIZE AS [INAUDIBLE]
>> SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
>> I'M THINKING IF IT HAD TO ABSORB GROWTH THROUGH A 10-PLEX OR SOMETHING.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT SENSE, MARK.
YOU'VE GOT SOME LAND TO PUT THINGS ON.
>> EXPLORING DENNY'S OPTION A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FIVE YEARS OUT,
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LET'S JUST SAY WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF IN A BOND AND RUN IT IN FIVE YEARS.DID THE EXISTING STRUCTURES HAVE ENOUGH LIFE LEFT IN THEM FOR US TO STRING THEM ALONG TO THAT POINT?
>> THEN ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT AND THEN WE DO RENOVATIONS ON THEM RATHER THAN REPLACEMENT ARE THOSE RENOVATIONS GOING TO EXTEND THE LIFE OUT LONG ENOUGH ON THOSE? BECAUSE AT THAT POINT DEPENDING ON [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S A 15-20 YEAR INVESTMENT.
>> FOR INSTANCE, ON PLEASANT VALLEY, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ADDING SOME BUILDING LIKE WE DID AT LAURIN A FEW YEARS AGO FOR A CAFETERIA.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT REDOING ALL THE ROOFS PROBABLY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HVAC SYSTEM.
>> WHETHER YOU'RE REDOING OR [INAUDIBLE]
>> SIGNIFICANT WORK AT LAURIN AS WELL.
BUT WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
LAURIN IS THIS CAMPUS AND WHILE WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T PUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO IT, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS CAMPUS UP AND RUNNING, WORKING FOR CANVAS HERE.
IT'S DOABLE. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE EQUITY ISSUES.
>> SPEAKING OF THE EQUITY ISSUE, ARE THERE PROJECTS? WELL, IT'S A COMPOUND QUESTION.
THE FIRST IS, ARE THERE PROJECTS IN THE NORTH THAT YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT FIRST THAT THERE'S A GENUINE NEED THAT WE CAN PITCH TO VOTERS IN THE NORTH.
DO YOU HAVE THOSE PROJECTS IN YOUR MIND, KEVIN?
>> AS AS I'M [INAUDIBLE] THERE WILL BE A 300 BUILDING, MAYBE UPDATING THE STAND.
>> BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL IS INTERESTED IN CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM THAT COULD BE HOUSED AT A LOCATION NEAR BATTLEGROUND, BUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THAT WOULD APPEAL TO THE NORTH VOTERS.
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS IT WORTH? IS IT POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT OR STRATEGICALLY EXPEDIENT FOR US TO DO THAT, TO RUN A MORE EQUITABLE LIST WHEN REALLY DEMOGRAPHICALLY POPULATION-WISE, THE NEEDS ARE IN THE NORTH AND WE'RE JUST THROWING THESE THINGS? IF WE HAD TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING WE HAD TO DO IN THE NORTH, THESE ARE THE THINGS.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE CAC DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAD VOTERS, WE HAD NORTH RESIDENCE THERE.
I REMEMBER IT WAS A TELLING COMMENT BY ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND HE SAID, WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T TRY TO SPREAD IT OUT IN THE DISTRICT.
DON'T SPREAD IT OUT AND INCREASE THE COST.
JUST BECAUSE, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO THROW THIS BONE, AND THIS BONE, AND THIS BONE, AND THIS BONE.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT'S WHY THE CAC COMMITTEE LISTENED TO THAT VERY CAREFULLY AND WHY THEY DECIDED ON, LET'S JUST GO AFTER WHAT ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES.
>> PERFECT. DENNY ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD ARGUE THAT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AREN'T THROWING A BONE.
>> I'M NOT SAYING THEY WEREN'T.
WE CAN OBVIOUSLY THROW IN A WHOLE BUNCH MORE STUFF.
DO YOU TAKE PLEASANT VALLEY, FOR INSTANCE, OFF OF THE LIST TO ADD THOSE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AROUND THIS 70 CENTS OR DO YOU ADD THOSE OTHER THINGS AND INCREASE IT TO A DOLLAR?
>> PART OF THAT DISCUSSION 2 CAME OUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A CAPITAL LEVY AND RATHER THAN DOING LARGER SCALE IMPROVEMENTS AT THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS, DO SOME IMPROVEMENT AT A BUILDING THAT YOU CAN MAKE A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE FOR, AND THEN DO SOME OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS.
KEVIN, HAS DONE A TON IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AS YOU KNOW WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE LAST TWO SUMMERS WE'RE GOING TO PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT ABOUT INVESTMENTS [INAUDIBLE]?
>> CURIOUS THOUGH. THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER.
THE PREVIOUS BOARD SET ASIDE LEVY FUNDS PORTION OF THE LEVY FUNDS TO ENSURE WHEN THE LAST BONDS FAILED THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS GOT DONE.
SO WHERE'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT IF THIS LEVY FAILS,
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THAT THIS BOARD OR THE NEXT BOARD, WHOEVER MAY BE ON IT, DOES THAT SAME THING.OR IF WE RUN THIS AND WE CAN PASS THIS WITH JUST THE FOUR SCHOOLS TO KEEP IT AT THE MINIMUM, CAN WE CONTINUE THAT LEVY FUNDS SET ASIDE TO TACKLE SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT AREN'T NEEDS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
>> YOU REMEMBER THOSE WERE UNDER UNIQUE EXPERIENCES.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED, IS THAT WE PASS THE BOND THAT WAS AT LIKE TWO.
>> WE PASS THE LEVY THAT WAS ALMOST AT $3.
I THINK IT WAS $3.11 OR SOMETHING, [OVERLAPPING] 3.53, $3.11.
THE NEXT YEAR, THE MCCLEARY DECISION CAME OUT AND THEY KEPT IT AT $1.50.
WE THEN HAD A LEVY FOR ONE YEAR AT $1.50.
THE STATE REALIZED WE MADE A MISTAKE, AND SO THEY ALLOWED US TO RAISE IT BACK UP TO $2.50.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE KEPT THAT MONEY.
THAT WAS THE ADDITION TO THE $1.50.
A DOLLAR'S WORTH OF THE COLLECTION OF THE $2.50.
A DOLLAR'S WORTH WE PUT DIRECTLY INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
>> I THINK WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS A BOARD COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
WE CAN STILL GO UP TO THAT 2.50 MARGIN.
BUT WHAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DO IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS THE CURRENT NEED.
I WOULD ARGUE THAT OUR CURRENT NEED IS THE DOLLARS 70 THAT WE'RE COLLECTING.
IF A BOARD WANTED TO GO AND PROPOSE THAT A LEVY WAS GOING TO GO FOR INSTANCE, $2.50 AND COLLECT THE MAX AMOUNT THEY COULD THEN SAY, WELL, ABOVE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR CAPITAL.
>> RIGHT. BUT AT THAT POINT, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WHY NOT GO AFTER THE CAPITAL LEVY [OVERLAPPING] INSTEAD?
>> TO ME, THAT INCREASES THE CONFUSION THE PUBLIC ALREADY HAS.
>> IF YOU MAKE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS BONDS OR FOR BUILDINGS.
>> LEVIES ARE FOR LEARNING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PASS AN INCREASE LEVY TO [OVERLAPPING] BUILD SOME BUILDINGS.
I THINK THAT JUST INCREASES THE [OVERLAPPING] CONFUSION OF THE PUBLIC.
>> I THINK YOU'D BE BETTER OFF SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PASS A CAPITAL LEVY AND GO THAT ROUTE.
>> I AGREE THERE'S ALREADY A NUT CONFUSION ABOUT [OVERLAPPING] THAT HISTORY.
[OVERLAPPING]WE ONLY HAVE 10 MINUTES LEFT IN THIS DISCUSSION FOR WHAT WE'VE PLANNED.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ALL ON THE SPOT, BUT [OVERLAPPING] I'M GOING TO.
>> IT'S A GREAT STORY. [LAUGHTER] I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PERHAPS JUST SHARING WHAT WERE YOU ARE AT THIS MOMENT.
WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS IN TERMS OF STEADFAST.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT, I'M STRUGGLING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US TO HEAR WHERE WE ARE.
>> I JUST GOT HERE. SO [LAUGHTER] THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF IT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS AND WHEN I LOOK AT ALL OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS AND THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO REFER TO IN MY HOUSE IN SUDDEN VALLEY COMING UP AND KNOWING THAT IT'S TAKES FIVE YEARS FOR THAT TO MATRICULATE INTO THE SYSTEM.
KNOWING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BOND THAT DID PASS IN 2005.
KNOWING THAT PEOPLE, THE POPULACE REALLY NEEDS TO SEE THE NEED, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT LATER.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THAT ANSWER.
>> I'LL DO BALANCE. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE OUR CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES TO OUR KIDS.
IF THEY DON'T, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS, THERE'S CAPITAL LEVIES, THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT WILL BE NEW INFORMATION.
COMMUNITY SAID NO, BUT I THINK WE ARGUE ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES TO THE BOND.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO NOT NECESSARILY RUN IT FOR THE AUGUST, BUT I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE FEBRUARY CYCLE TO RUN IT NOW.
IF IT FAILS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO RECONSIDERING YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN [OVERLAPPING]
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>> OR EXAMINING THE CAPITAL LEVY.
>> OR EXAMINING A CAPITAL LEVY.
BUT I'M WITH MARK, I HAVE FAITH IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY'LL RECOGNIZE THE NEED AS LONG AS THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.
WHICH IS GOING TO LEAN BACK INTO MESSAGING.
JUST GOING TO BE A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON THE DISTRICT.
BUT I'M CONFIDENT AND EVERYBODY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT PART.
I WISH WE HAD CONFIDENCE THAT WE COULD PASS A BOND RIGHT NOW.
WE SPENT CONSIDERABLE MONEY AND TIME GATHERING SOME DATA ABOUT WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW.
SOME EXPERTS GAVE US SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
PART OF THAT INFORMATION I THINK TELLS US THAT PROBABLY A BOND WON'T PASS RIGHT NOW.
LOOKING AT THE DATA ACROSS THE STATE, I THINK THAT INFORMS THAT HOWEVER, ALSO LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FIVE OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW, TELLS ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO OUT AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
LOOKING AT THAT PART, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A CAPITAL LEVY RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT SIX YEARS FROM NOW OR SEVEN, WHATEVER IT IS, FIVE, SIX YEARS FROM NOW, WE'D NEED TO PASS A BOND.
MY CAUTION ABOUT GOING OUT FOR BOND AND SAYING, LET'S GO OUT AND LET OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT US IN THIS BOND IS TYPICALLY NOT PASSING A BOND, MAKES IT HARDER THAN TO PASS ANYTHING ELSE.
IF WE GO OUT FOR A BOND, MY WORRY IS THAT THEN WE'VE REALLY MADE IT HARDER TO PASS A CAPITAL LEVY.
BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
I THINK TYPICALLY ONCE YOU DON'T PASS A BOND AND YOU SAW THE LAST TIME YOU WENT OUT FOR A BOND, THE SECOND TIME, IT ACTUALLY WAS LOWER.
ASK ME TOMORROW AND I MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
THERE'S SO MANY PROS TO DOING THIS AND YET SO MANY REASONS TO WAVE.
I JUST LOOKED TO THE SUPPORT OF THIS BOARD BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE YES OR NO [LAUGHTER].
>> YEAH. IT'S A REALLY HARD DECISION.
>> THAT'S A SPLIT AS YOU CAN BE.
>> TWO YES TWO NO, TWO YES, TWO LATER TWO NOW TWO LATER ONE.
>> YEAH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S NO.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S CLEAR TO ME AND THAT'S THE [OVERLAPPING] WAY.
>> I'M CAUTIOUS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.
BECAUSE OF HISTORY IN TERMS OF PASSING A BOND, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT I'M NOT SEEING.
>> WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING, AMANDA, IS THAT IN ORDER TO RUN A BOND IN THE FEBRUARY WINDOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION.
I BELIEVE BY THE END OF OCTOBER.
>> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE DATE BUT AROUND THERE.
>> THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
BUT TO AMANDA'S POINT, THE EARLIER WE CAN MOBILIZE, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE.
WHILE I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN A CORNER, I KEEP SAYING THAT AND I'M DONE DOING IT.
>> AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S TOO EARLY TO START MESSAGING ABOUT OUR NEEDS, [OVERLAPPING] NO MATTER WHAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXACTLY, THAT'S A GREAT POINT
>> I TAKE ME TO THAT POINT, WAS THERE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY AND OUR MOST RECENT LEVY, THAT ORDER, RBG USED TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
>> YEAH. I THINK WE HAD A STRONGER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
>> I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I THINK ALSO BECAUSE WE MADE A NUMBER OF CUTS IN THE SPRING THAT PEOPLE KNEW WE'D MADE CUTS FOR. THEY WERE A LITTLE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WASN'T IT ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THE CURRENT RATE TOO.
>> THAT'S CERTAINLY HAD TO HAVE HELD.
>> BUT EVEN WITH THAT, YOU STILL HAVE.
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>> STILL WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, DAVID.
>> YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOND, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW THAN LEVY.
>> ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT I'VE MENTIONED THIS IN THE PAST AT THE SCHOOL OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HOUSTON MADE WAS TO PASS MULTIPLE SMALLER BONDS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CAMPUS, THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, THIS BUILDING, I WAS ON MY WAY HERE TO [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING, PASS THE BOND TO THAT BUILDING, PASS THE BOND TO THAT BUILDING.
SO HISTORIC BETWEEN AN BOY OR YACCO, WE INHERITED THOSE SCORES [INAUDIBLE] DOES NOT BEEN A LOT OF MAJOR PROJECTS, MAJOR BONDS LIKE THE BRAND [INAUDIBLE] WE'VE CHANGE THE PHILOSOPHY ON DISTRICT LINE IN BONDS, BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING.
INSTEAD OF JUST UP AND DOWN, 10,000 FOOT HERE, THAT COST WHATEVER THAT $3 MILLION TAXPAYERS CAN EASILY PALETTE.
>> WELL, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE SELF-CONTAINED IN ONE BUILDING WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SAFETY AT THE FOREFRONT, WHICH MEANS IT'S ONE BUILDING INSTEAD OF THE TUCKS AND DAYBREAK CAMPUS, WHICH ARE THREE BUILDINGS. THAT'S IT.
>> I GET THE RATIONALE BUT [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LIKE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES.
THAT'S WHAT EVERGREEN WAS DOING.
THAT WAS WHAT VANCOUVER WAS DOING, AND I THINK WE'RE JUST A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE CITIZENS COMMENT ABOUT BUILD WHAT YOU NEED, BUT NOT EVERYTHING IN THE KITCHEN SINK TO GO WITH IT.
>> HOW DO WE PROCEED? THAT'S THE QUESTION.
>> I NEED TO EDUCATE MYSELF A LOT MORE ON THE CAPITAL LEVY AS AN ALTERNATIVE, AND STRATEGICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THAT MIGHT FIT THE NEEDS.
>> AS KEVIN SAID HE'S BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, AND HE HAS A VERY ROUGH DRAFT.
BUT HE COULD CERTAINLY PRESENT, I WOULD THINK IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, OR SO WHAT I'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH SUMMER.
>> I WOULD SAY DENNY THEN IF IT CAME TO THAT I'M SORRY, MARK.
>> IF YOU WERE TO EXPLORE THE OPTION, AND CAN PRESENT TO US WHAT A CAPITAL LEVY COSTS WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
THEN I WOULD VOTE WITH JACKIE AND MARY ON THAT LEANING TOWARDS A CAPITAL OR NOT.
SORRY, JACKIE BUT MARY ON THAT ABOUT A CAPITAL LEVY.
>> I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO. I LIKE THE COMMENTS.
I MEAN, WHETHER WE'RE RUNNING A BOND OR NOT, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SO WE GET THAT INPUT.
WHETHER IT'S A CAPITAL LEVY, A BOND, OR IT'S JUST DAILY OPERATION.
WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF CONNECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT OUR STRUGGLES, WHAT ARE OUR CORE BELIEFS, AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR KIDS ARE.
IF WE PUT A LITTLE EXTRA EFFORT INTO IT THINKING THAT WE MIGHT BE DOING A CAPITAL LEVY OR BOND, THEN GREAT.
>> WELL, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD PUSH BACK ON YOU GUYS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT.
WE DID THAT WITH OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY GROUP AND THEY WERE.
>> THEY'RE GUNG-HO, AND REGARDLESS OF WHEN WE RUN IT, I MEAN WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO RUN IT AT SOME POINT.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PLAN IN PLACE.
BUT AGAIN, THE QUESTION BECOMES TIMING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO, IF YOU WANT A MORE FOCUSED, INTENTIONAL, DELIBERATE MOVE TOWARDS TALKING MORE ABOUT FACILITIES, MORE ABOUT THOSE NEEDS, MORE ABOUT EDUCATING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN BONDS, AND LEVIES, AND CAPITAL THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY DELAYING THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THAT BY OCTOBER.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE LEANING, THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT THEN MY PUSH BACK TO YOU WOULD BE THEN, WE'RE DELAYING, WE'RE NOT RUNNING THE BOND IN FEBRUARY,
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BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO RUN THE BOND IN FEBRUARY.I MEAN, WE GOT TO HIT THE GROUND.
IF WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE BOND IN FEBRUARY, WE'VE GOT TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH A CAMPAIGN IN SEPTEMBER.
>> SEPTEMBER. IS THERE ANY REASON TO THINK, WE WOULD RUN A BOND ANY OTHER TIME IN FEBRUARY? I GUESS FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'VE SEEN THE DATA IT'S THE BEST TIME TO DO IT.
>> I THINK YOUR OTHER BEST BET IS NOVEMBER.
>> BUT THAT'S A GENERAL ELECTION, RIGHT?
>> WELL, IF YOU RAN IT THIS YEAR, IT WOULD BE AN OFF YEAR ELECTION.
BUT IF YOU GO NEXT NOVEMBER, IT'LL BE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND SO FORTH.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT VOTER EFFICACY WOULD BE HIGHER IN A GENERAL ELECTION LIKE THAT.
WHY? WHAT DO WE ATTRIBUTE THE FAILURE RATE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION TO GENERALLY?
>> JUST LARGER TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTERS IS WHAT THEY CLAIM.
PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT TURN OUT.
>> I GUESS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT, BECAUSE IF FEBRUARY IS OUR MONTH WHATEVER YEAR IT IS, IF WE LOOK AT FEBRUARY OF '24, THAT'S PROBABLY AND IT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
IF WE LOOK AT FEBRUARY OF '25 IT'S NOT.
>> BECAUSE OF THE LEVY, RIGHT?
>> IF FEBRUARY IS OUR MONTH IT'S 2024 OR 2027, I DON'T MEAN TO REOPEN THE DISCUSSION.
BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TIMELINE.
>> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE EITHER A LEVIES GOING TO BE BEFORE A BOND, OR A BOND IS GOING TO BE BEFORE A LEVY.
>> I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE CONSENSUS ON A CAPITAL LEVY, OR A BOND.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION ON EITHER OF THOSE.
I MEAN, WHICHEVER THE VEHICLE IS.
>> WELL, WE REALLY CAN'T ACTIVATE THE CITIZENS ADVISORY.
>> I MEAN WITH THE CITIZENS FOR BETTER SCHOOLS WITHOUT A RESOLUTION.
>> JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JACKIE WAS SAYING ON THE TIMELINE, AND AS WELL AS MARY, IS IF WE DECIDED THAT A CAPITAL LEVY WAS THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE HERE AND THE NOW.
WELL, BY THE TIME WE HIT THE END OF THAT TIMELINE, WE WOULD BE STARTING TO RUN INTO THE NEED OF THE ADDITIONAL SCHOOL, WHICH POINT WE COULD UP TO RUN A BOND AT THAT POINT.
>> TO THEIR POINT, IT MIGHT WORK OUT IN THE TIMELINE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE CAPITAL LEVY NOW GET SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED DONE, DONE IN ORDER TO SURVIVE TO THE NEXT FIVE YEARS CYCLE, OR IT HIT THAT FIVE YEAR MARK AND THEN RUN THE BOND THEN IN '26-'27.
>> NO, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO DISSUADE YOU BY SAYING THAT IF YOU WANT US TO WORK ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INCREASING THAT, AND RUNNING FORUMS AND DOING OPEN HOUSES, AND EDUCATING PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO RUN A GOOD CAMPAIGN.
WE CAN RUN A GOOD CAMPAIGN, BUT WE'RE RUNNING A GOOD CAMPAIGN BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT RUNNING CAMPAIGNS.
HOW WE'VE ALWAYS RUN CAMPAIGNS WITH, WE'VE GOT A QUALITY GROUP OF PEOPLE AND WE'LL GIVE IT OUR BEST EFFORT, AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL BE INVOLVED AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT OUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE, AND CHANGE IS GOING TO BE LIMITED WITHIN THAT SCOPE.
IF YOU REALLY DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE EDUCATION, AND MORE PR MARKETING, AND MORE INFORMATION GETTING OUT THERE ABOUT THE NEED, AND WHY THESE ARE IMPORTANT THEN WE NEED MORE TIME TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT IF YOU SAID RUN THE THING IN FEBRUARY, WE'D PUT TOGETHER, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THE CITIZENS FOR BETTER SCHOOLS WOULD PUT IT TOGETHER, AND RUN A FANTASTIC CAMPAIGN, AND WE GET SUPPORT FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
BUT TO WHAT EXTENT IT HELPS US OVERCOME SOME OF THE OTHER POLLS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TIME.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE YOUNG FAMILIES.
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE EDUCATED ON THE DIFFERENCES, AND SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE, I WOULD THINK A HUGE EFFORT TO EDUCATE
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THE POPULACE MADE UP LARGELY OF YOUNG FAMILIES WHO HAVE JUST MOVED TO THE DISTRICT.>> I THINK THAT, YEAH GO AHEAD.
>> WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU YET.
BUT I RECENTLY GOT SOME DATA [LAUGHTER] FROM PIPER SANDLER THAT LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF RUNNING A CAPITAL LEVY, AT THE SAME TIME AS AN AP&L.
THEY ANALYZE THE ELECTIONS FROM 2022, AND THEY FOUND THAT THERE ACTUALLY WAS SOME IMPROVEMENT, IF BOTH OF THOSE LEVIES WERE PAIRED TOGETHER VERSUS RUNNING THEM AS STANDALONE MEASURES, THERE WAS ABOUT A 5% GREATER PASSAGE RATE.
I CAN SHARE THAT DATA WITH YOU.
>> IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT WAS 2025.
>> QUITE COMPLICATED, I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> [LAUGHTER] THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
>> IT'S NOT EASY. I UNDERSTAND.
>> A LOT OF DISTRICTS WILL DO THAT [INAUDIBLE] TECHNOLOGY.
>> WELL, I THINK WASHOUGAL JUST DID THAT.
>> YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] FILL THE OTHER.
>> YEAH. WE ARE MISSING OUT ON CAPITAL LEVIES.
WE HAVE NEVER RUN A CAPITAL LEVY IN THIS DISTRICT, AND WE NEED TO, WHETHER WE RUN A CAPITAL LEVY, A LARGER ONE TO IMPROVE BUILDINGS.
WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT RUNNING A CAPITAL LEVY TO FUND SOME OF OUR CURRICULUM NEEDS, SOME OF OUR TECHNOLOGY NEEDS.
>> WELL, NOT CUTTING MUDDIES THE WORST TOO, BECAUSE THE MESSAGING ON ITS MOST SUPERFICIAL LEVEL IS LEVIES FOR INSTRUCTION IN BONDS OR FOR BUILDINGS.
>> WHAT DOES CLARIFY BY SAYING [OVERLAPPING].
>> [OVERLAPPING] CAPITAL LEVY.
>> IF YOU'RE DOING PROJECTS LIKE STEM BUILDINGS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEARNING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT TRAINING.
>> TRUE. THERE'S A WAY TO MANIPULATE THE MESSENGER.
>> WELL, I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY TOO TO SPEAKING TO THE YOUNG FAMILIES ABOUT OUR PRE-KINDERGARTEN.
>> I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE BIG HIGHLIGHT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THOSE YOUNG FAMILIES WE WANT US GETTING STARTED VOTING FOR BONDS AND LEVIES.
>> RIGHT. MIKE WERE OF THE FAMILIES.
>> THE FAMILIES THAT YOU TURNED AWAY FOR TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN, WERE THEY ALL IN THE SOUTH?
>> YOU DIDN'T TURN AWAY. I'M SORRY.
THE WAY THAT WAS PHRASED, WAS POORLY PHRASED AND I'M WITHDRAWING IT.
[LAUGHTER] WE LIKE TO SAY THAT MIKE [LAUGHTER].
>> WHO SAID THAT? [INAUDIBLE] I HEARD THAT.
>> I THINK HE'S TAKEN IT PERSONALLY ENOUGH ALREADY.
>> I'M SORRY, MIKE. DAVID, YOU WE'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DATA FROM THE BOND, WHEN WE ALMOST PASSED IT AT 58.6% [OVERLAPPING].
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT BONDS OR LEVIES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE NO VOTES.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, I JUST CAME BACK FROM THE WATSON CONFERENCE AND I WENT TO A SESSION WITH BETHEL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT WAS ON PASSING LEVIES.
THEY FAILED THE LEVY IN FEBRUARY AT 43% AND IN APRIL LANDED [NOISE] AGAIN AND PASSED IT AT 57%.
>> THEY MADE A 14% SWING IN VOTES AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY HONED IN ON THEIR PARENT TURNOUT.
THEY HAVE 14,000 PARENTS IN THEIR DISTRICT.
THE FIRST TIME THEY RAN THAT LEVY IN FEBRUARY, 2,000 OF THEM VOTED.
THEY DIDN'T FOCUS ON THE NO VOTES, THEY FOCUSED ON THEIR PARENTS.
THE PARENT TURNOUT THREE MONTHS LATER WAS ALMOST QUADRUPLE FROM THE FEBRUARY ELECTION.
THAT IS WHERE THEY MADE THE CHANGE, THAT 14% SWING.
THEY RECOGNIZED, THEY LOOKED AT THE LEVY AND THEY SAID, THERE'S 9,000 NO VOTES.
WE HAVE TO GET MORE THAN 9,000.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THEY HAD A VERY STRATEGIC PLAN IN GETTING THE PARENT TURNOUT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY BRILLIANT, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LESSONS TO LEARN FROM THAT.
THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS, I'M CURIOUS WHAT OUR PARENT TURNOUT WAS AT THAT BOND ELECTION.
AND IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS, AND IN FACT, THE DATA SHOWS THAT THE PARENT [OVERLAPPING] TURNOUT WAS LOW, THERE IS OUR AVENUE TOO NOW.
IF THE DATA SAYS THE PARENTS ALREADY TURNED OUT IN STRONG NUMBERS AND WE STILL LOST, WELL, THAT GIVES US PAUSE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME OF SWINGING VOTES, IT'S GETTING PARENTS TO TURN OUT.
AND ANDREW WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT, GETTING PARENTS EDUCATED, THE YOUNG FAMILIES, [OVERLAPPING] THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE YES [OVERLAPPING].
WE JUST IGNORE THE NO'S, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.
GUESS WHAT, [OVERLAPPING] AT BETHEL, THEY HAD 9,000 NO VOTES IN FEBRUARY, IN APRIL, THEY RAN THE SAME THING, 10,000 NO VOTES.
[LAUGHTER] BUT THEY HAD 13,000 YES VOTES, THEY WENT FROM [OVERLAPPING] ABOUT 7,000 YES TO 13,000 YES.
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>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S ON PAR WITH WHEN WE FAILED OUR FIRST LEVY [OVERLAPPING] AND THEN WE RUN IT AGAIN THE FOLLOWING NOVEMBER.
THE NO VOTES DIDN'T CHANGE, WE JUST HAD MORE YES.
[OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE 12,000 STUDENTS, 7,500 FAMILIES IN THE DISTRICT, SO IF YOU ASSUME THAT 70% HAVE TWO PARENTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 12,000 OR SO VOTERS.
IT TAKES ABOUT 13,000 VOTES HISTORICALLY IN ELECTIONS IN OUR AREA TO GET 50%.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO GET SOME SWING VOTERS.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO GET SOME SWING VOTERS.
>> THAT'S IF YOU'RE ALREADY TARGETED THEM [INAUDIBLE].
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND IT'S THE EASIEST DEMOGRAPHIC TO TARGET, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY MODERATELY INFORMED ABOUT THE NEEDS.
>> AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE ARE NOT GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE STREET WHO HAVE NO IDEA.
>> THEY ALSO DID FOCUS THE HEAT MAPS.
WHERE YOU HAVE TRADITIONALLY YES VOTES VERSUS NO VOTES [OVERLAPPING].
THEY DIDN'T REALLY FOCUS [OVERLAPPING] ON THE NO VOTE AREAS.
>> WELL, WE DID THE SAME IN THE LEVY.
>> I WANT TO CLARIFY A QUESTION WITH KEVIN ABOUT IN A CAPITAL LEVY EFFORT, MY CONCERN IS INCREASING CAPACITY AT THOSE SEVEN SCHOOLS.
THE CAPITAL LEVY WOULD HAVE A MORE DIFFICULT TIME DOING THAT?
>> YOU CAN BUILD WHAT YOU WANT WITH CAPITAL LEVY.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING MARK IS YOU CAN DO ADDITIONS.
>> YOU CAN ADD ON WITH THE CAPITAL LEVY.
>> THERE ARE DISTRICTS THAT TAKE STATE MATCH WITH CAPITAL LEVIES.
[OVERLAPPING] THERE'S SOME LARGER DISTRICTS AROUND $50-60 MILLION CAPITAL LEVY [OVERLAPPING] I KNOW DO STATE MATCH ON THEM AS WELL.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS FOR CAPITAL LEVY THAT 50 CENTS WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $50 MILLION FOR US, [OVERLAPPING] PAID BACK OVER SIX YEARS.
>> IF YOU DO IT AS A CAPITAL LEVY, DOES THAT DISQUALIFY YOU? [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT IF IT'S FOR ADDED GROWTH YOU COULD USE THE IMPACT FEES [OVERLAPPING].
WITH THAT FEE WE HAVE MORE OF A BUILDING.
>> SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S A BOND OR A CAPITAL LEVY, YOU CAN USE THE IMPACT FEES TO HELP SATISFY GROWTH NEEDS?
>> BUT KEVIN, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR A CAFETERIA OR A GYM, CAN YOU?
>> THAT WOULD BE IN THE CAPITAL.
>> THAT WOULD BE IN CAPITAL LEVY, BUT YOU COULD ADD CLASSROOMS.
>> WITH THE ADDITION OF [INAUDIBLE], WE'VE USED A LOT OF OUR IMPACT FEES, IS THAT NOT CORRECT?
>> AND WE STILL HAVE SOME TO GO?
>> WE'VE COMMITTED TO THE OPERATIONS BUILDING, BUT WE'RE STILL COLLECTING.
WE COLLECT APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION A YEAR.
>> AND THEN WE JUST UP THE RATE?
>> I'M SORRY, HOW IMPORTANT IS MAXIMIZING STATE MATCH FOR THESE FUNDS? IS THAT IMPORTANT [OVERLAPPING] IN TERMS OF TIMING? AND IS IT SOMETHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MARKETING? [OVERLAPPING] OR IT'S A BETTER VALUE ALMOST TO THE ELECTORATE?
>> WE HAVE ALWAYS MADE IT CLEAR THAT BY VOTING YES, WE WOULD BE RECEIVING THIS AMOUNT OF STATE MATCHING FUNDS.
>> TO ANSWER THOUGH, I THINK IT'S NOWHERE NEAR AS IMPERATIVE AS IT USED TO BE.
IT'S SUCH A SLIGHT MARGIN NOW.
>> IT SHOULD BE FACTORED AS [OVERLAPPING] PROMINENTLY IN TERMS OF TIMING OR PROBABLY EVEN MESSAGING BECAUSE THE RATE IS SO LOW NOW. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S BECOME MUCH LESS OF A SELLING POINT I WOULD THINK.
>> THE SURVEY DID FIND THOUGH, THAT SOME RESPONDENTS REACTED POSITIVELY TO THEM.
>> WHETHER OR NOT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT REALLY ALL MEANS.
[OVERLAPPING] LIKE I SAID, LAST BOND ALMOST HALF OF OUR DOLLARS WERE STATE MATCHED SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> WE'RE RUNNING OVER A LITTLE, SO I'M GOING TO END THIS PART OF THE RETREAT.
I THINK IT WAS A EXTREMELY VALUABLE [OVERLAPPING] DISCUSSION.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD TAKE A 30 MINUTE BREAK FOR DINNER AND THEN COME BACK HERE AT [OVERLAPPING]
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>> WE'LL ADJOURN UNTIL 6:45 AND THEN RESUME THE MEETING.
>> IT'S 6:45 AND WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED AGAIN. NEXT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH UP OUR LITTLE POWERPOINT HERE.
>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. [BACKGROUND]
[B. The Governance Core - David Kennedy]
THANK YOU GUYS FOR ENGAGING THE FIRST PART OF THE EVENING.
I THINK THE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING OVER THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF.
WE'RE REALLY ON DISPLAY IN THAT FIRST PORTION OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, REALLY AROUND BOARD GOVERNANCE, THE ABILITY FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD TO COLLABORATE, EVEN WHEN IDEAS AREN'T ALWAYS AGREED UPON, BUT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, SHARE IDEAS, ALLOW EVERY VOICE TO BE HEARD.
I'D APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ENGAGING IN THAT PART OF IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A VARIETY OF THINGS TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH A LITTLE ACTIVITY A LITTLE BIT LATER, WHERE WE'LL GET UP AND MOVE AROUND.
TRAVIS WILL HELP FACILITATE THAT.
REFLECTING ON THE READING THAT WE TOUCHED YOU GUYS WITH, THEY LOOK AT THE DISTRACTIONS THAT CAN OFTEN CAUSE CHALLENGES FOR SCHOOL BOARDS.
OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO REFLECT, SHARE YOUR OPINIONS, HEAR FROM EACH OTHER, AND THEN ALSO KICK IDEAS AROUND WITH THE REST OF OUR TEAM ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK AS A COLLABORATIVE UNIT.
REALLY THE OUTCOMES FOR TONIGHT ARE BOTH RATIONAL AND EXPERIENTIAL.
WE WANT YOU TO WALK AWAY WITH SOME NEW LEARNING, BUT WE ALSO WANT YOU TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WHERE YOU CONTINUE TO BUILD RAPPORT WITH EACH OTHER AND OUR TEAM AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WALK WAY WITH THE BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF SOME PRINCIPLES AROUND GOVERNANCE.
AND THEN ALSO, AS WE MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT DISTRACTIONS AND CHALLENGES THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE FACING IN YOUR CURRENT ROLE ON THE BOARD.
WE'LL GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW SOME OF THOSE TOP 10 DISTRACTIONS THAT YOU WERE ASSIGNED TO READ ABOUT.
THEN, WE'LL DIVE INTO A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE PITFALLS.
THEN JUST HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE REALITY IS OF THE ROLE THAT YOU'RE SERVING RIGHT NOW.
I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO READ THIS QUOTE.
[BACKGROUND] THE AREAS WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE REALLY WORKING AS A UNIFIED TEAM.
SOME OF US HAVE BEEN IN OTHER DISTRICTS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHERE MAYBE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY POSITIVE COMING NOT ONLY AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL TEAM, BUT THE COLLABORATION WITH THE BOARD AND TEACHERS UNIONS HAVE BEEN A BRIGHT SPOT IN MY ONE YEAR BACK IN BATTLEGROUND, BUT REALLY CENTERS AROUND THAT WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON VISION.
WE'LL GET INTO HOW SOME OF THIS ALIGNS WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR COHERENCE GOALS.
BUT KEEP THIS IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT'S ACTIVITY, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE IN, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE TASKED WITH AS A BOARD MEMBER.
I'M GOING TO TURN OVER THE MIKE, HE'S GOING TO GET US ROLLING A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTIVITY IN THE OTHER ROOM.
>> THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE US BACK TO THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A BOARD RETREAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES AND REALLY TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE FIRST BEING POLITICS, AND THE SECOND BEING GOVERNANCE, AND WHAT POLITICS LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT GOVERNANCE AND THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS.
THEN, ACTUALLY THE ADVANTAGES OF WHAT POLITICS AND GOVERNANCE TOGETHER MAY LOOK LIKE.
IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS SLIDE IS FAMILIAR.
CAN ANYBODY DEFINE POLITICS OR GO BACK TO WHAT YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, HOLDING AND USING POWER.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] WHEN WE THINK ABOUT POLITICS WITHOUT GOVERNANCE, WE THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT PEAKS BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER ELECTIONS.
THAT POLITICS WITHOUT GOVERNANCE CATERS TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS.
CAN BE VERY SUPERFICIAL, AT TIMES.
SUPPORTS WEAK IMPLEMENTATION OF A STRATEGIC PLAN OR DISTRICT INITIATIVES.
THAT OFTEN POLITICS WITHOUT GOVERNANCE ALLOWS FOR SHORT-TERM WINS,
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BUT NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON SOME OF THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.AGAIN, MAYBE HAVING SOME LIMITED BUT NOT LASTING BENEFITS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE, THEY DOMINATE DURING ELECTION CYCLES.
THEY BUILD CAPACITY IN RELATION TO OUR STRATEGIC PLANS AND GOALS, AND THEY'RE BOTH LONG AND SHORT-TERM WINS.
AND REALLY WITH GOVERNANCE HERE IS THAT EXERCISING AUTHORITY ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT CAME UP IN OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD AND POLITICS, AND HOW THE DECISIONS WE CAN MAKE IN THE SHORT-TERM OR IN THE LONG-TERM WITHOUT ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS, WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ACTUALLY GOVERNANCE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT IS ACTUALLY DERIVED FROM THE GREEK WORD KUBERNESIS, MEANING TO STEER A SHIP.
JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD OR TRUSTEES IT'S YOUR JOB TO STEER THE SHIP.
THERE'S A WONDERFUL TEAM STANDING BEFORE YOU THAT WILL HELP ROW THE BOAT OR THE MANAGEMENT, THAT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SET THE VISION, SET THE COURSE, AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU WITH THAT WORK AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT HAS BEEN OUTLINED FOR US TODAY.
>> ANYTHING FROM THE GROUP BEFORE US?
>> IT'S JUST STARTING TO RING A BELL AND BRING BACK SOME OF THE MEMORIES AND THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ON, ANY COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST HEARD?
>> I HAVE TO GO OVER IT AGAIN.
>> SAN MOORE >> WELL, THIS IDEA OF STEERING THE SHIP, POINTING US IN THE DIRECTION.
BUT THEN AS YOU SAID, IT'S OUR JOB TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING AND THE ROLLING AND THE WORK THAT GETS US THERE.
>> I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE READY TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. [LAUGHTER].
I JUST WATCHED THE WHOLE SERIES OF ALL THE PARTS OF CARIBBEAN MOVIES.
[LAUGHTER] I'M JUST LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE LIKE CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW.
>> I'D LIKE TO, WELL, HELP YOU WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO GO.
>> I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO READ, THERE WAS A QUOTE FROM THE BOOK, IT'S ON PAGE 6.
IT SAYS GOOD POLITICS PLUS GOOD GOVERNANCE WRAPPED IN A SYSTEMS PERSPECTIVE IS THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.
HOW DOES OUR BOARD OR OUR TRUSTEES CONTINUE WITH GOOD POLITICS, GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND HAVE THESE SYSTEM'S PERSPECTIVE IN DECISION-MAKING THAT CAN BENEFIT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY BOTH IN THE SHORT AND LONG TERM? DO YOU SEE SOME HEAD NODDING? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE I TURN THE MICROPHONE? [NOISE] THANK YOU.
>> BEFORE WE TRANSITION TO OUR ACTIVITY, I THINK THIS IS THE INTENT OF PUTTING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN WAS AN EXAMPLE OF MAYBE WHERE MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT STEERING THE SHIP AND ALLOWING THE TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE WORK TO DO SOME OF THE HEAVIER LIFTING.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AS A BOARD AROUND THE STRATEGIC PLANS, SETTING THE VISION, OUTLINING SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES.
THEN WITH THE COHERENT SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS OF HOW THOSE INTERCONNECT, WHAT WE DO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN THE BUILDING AT ALL THREE LEVELS COMPLEMENTS THE OVERARCHING PLAN FOR THE DISTRICT.
THERE'S MANY, MANY LAYERS THAT GO INTO EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A PART OF MANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND DECISIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF HOW WE SEE SO MANY MOVING PARTS WORKING TOGETHER THAT TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT, CONVERSATION, FEEDBACK, DECISION-MAKING, ALL OF THAT HAS WRAPPED UP IN THESE TWO EXAMPLES OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO THAT STEERS THE SHIP FOR OUR TEAM TO DO SOME OF THE WORK ON A DAILY BASIS.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE AS THE SHARED MORAL IMPERATIVE FOR THE DISTRICT?
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IS IT THE VISION, IS IT THE MISSION? IT WOULDN'T BE THE GOALS, I DON T THINK, BASED ON MY READING OF HOW THEY DEFINE THAT.>> WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WALK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT?
>> WE'RE GOING TO FACILITATE THAT PIECE OF IT AND TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TRAVIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE DISTRACTIONS FIRST THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING US TO THAT POINT.
>> CAN I SAY ONE THING? ANDREW WAS WITH US THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID SOME OF THIS WORK, SO MAYBE I WOULD ASK THE BOARD IF THEY COULD JUST BRIEFLY SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES.
THE LAST TIME WE MET, WE DID SOME REFLECTIONS, INDIVIDUALLY, ON THE REASON THAT EACH ONE OF YOU ENDED UP ON THE BOARD, AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE BELIEFS AND CORE VALUES THAT EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SHARED MORAL PURPOSE.
WE WENT TO AN ACTIVITY PRIOR TO YOUR ARRIVAL, THE GROUP HERE DEBATED WHETHER WE SHOULD GO THAT FAR BACK.
WE CHOSE NOT TO TODAY BUT IS ANYBODY THAT WAS HERE THE LAST TIME WITH WILLINGNESS TO SHARE HOW THEY ARRIVED AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WITHOUT TAKING UP TOO MUCH OF OUR TIME?
>> MY MEMORY WAS, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND COMPARED IT TO OUR OWN.
NOBODY THOUGHT VERY PERSONALLY CONNECTED TO MANY OF THEM, AND WHEN WE ENDED UP SAYING WHY WE REALLY GOT TO THIS POSITION, IT ALMOST ALWAYS INVOLVE A STORY WITH A REAL PERSON.
FOR ME, IT WAS A KID, I TUTORED IN HIGH SCHOOL MATH AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S MY MEMORY, DOES EVERYBODY HEARD THIS REALLY PERSONAL STORY THAT WENT ALONG WITH WHY THEY WERE SITTING UP HERE?
>> WE USED THAT TO DEVELOP OUR CORE BELIEFS.
THEN I THINK THAT IN THE COMBINATION OF LISTENING TO THE STORIES OF ONE ANOTHER AND FINDING OUT WHERE OUR PASSIONS WERE, WE WERE ALL ABLE TO BECOME ONE GROUP AND GET BEHIND EACH OTHER'S PASSIONS AND GOALS.
AND THEN UNIFY THAT INTO OUR CORE BELIEFS WHICH THEN LEAD INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND HELP THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT LUKE POINTED OUT THE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE COHERENT SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS, BUT THERE'S ALSO CONSIDERABLE ALIGNMENT IN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CORPORAL LEAGUES, IT JUST WEAVES ALTOGETHER.
ANDREW, I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND WHAT LUKE WAS TALKING ABOUT BUT WE ACTUALLY CALLED IT A MORAL PURPOSE AT ONE POINT, THE COHERENCE, YOU'LL SEE UP THERE BELIEVING THAT EACH AND EVERY STUDENT WE INCORPORATED.
THAT WAS OUR MORAL PURPOSE AND THAT BELIEF THAT EACH AND EVERY STUDENT CAN BE ACADEMICALLY, SOCIALLY, AND EMOTIONALLY TO SUCCESS IN LIFE.
I'D SAY THAT THE MISSION IS CLOSER TO OUR MORAL PURPOSE THAT'S DIRECTED ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
>> GETTING BACK TO WHAT MARK AND TED WERE SHARING, I THINK THE REASON THAT WE'RE ALL HERE IS FOR KIDS, IT'S REALLY WHERE IT BOILS DOWN TO IT, AND EACH ONE OF YOU HAD AN EXPERIENCE ABOUT CHANGING THE LIVES, WHETHER IT BE YOUR OWN LIFE OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S, IS THE REASON WHY WE DO THIS JOB, AND WHY WE COMMIT TO POLITICS AND GOVERNANCE, COLLECTIVELY FOCUSING IT ON A PARTICULAR AGENDA, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS
>> THANK YOU. THIS JUST GOES PERFECTLY WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTS THE CHALLENGES OF A DECISION A SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE.
MORE SO THAN WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER OR NOT TO RUN A BOND, THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES, OR LEVY.
IN THE ASSIGNED READING THAT TED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD HIM EARLIER PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVELY MADE SURE WE ALL KNOW THAT HE READ IT.
>> YOU ARE WELCOME, SIR. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE WILL GET UP AND MOVE AROUND HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DISTRACTIONS AND CHALLENGES TO COHERENCE, TO THIS IDEA OF ALL WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL BALANCING INDIVIDUAL CORE VALUES AND THE BOARD'S UNITY OF PURPOSE.
I WAS IN THE SAME SUPERINTENDENT PROGRAM AS DENNY A FEW YEARS AGO AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS MENTIONED ONE OF THE HEALTHIEST BOARDS THEY'VE EVER BEEN A PART OF WAS A BOARD THAT WAS ALWAYS A 3-2 VOTE.
HE SAID HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH BOARDS THAT WERE ALWAYS 5-0,
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AND JUST TO HEAR THE HEALTHY DISCORD AND CONVERSATION AROUND A BIG DECISION.A DECISION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON THE STUDENTS THAT WE ALL SERVE.
IT'S A LOT OF FUN TO BE A PART OF MICROMANAGEMENT OR ACCOUNTABILITY, REPRESENTING A CONSTITUENCY, HAVING A SINGLE AGENDA OR ONE PROGRAM, ONE PURPOSE, AND WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT IS SAID IN THE BOOK THAT IT'S OKAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MOST PEOPLE GET INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE A REASON TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD.
OFTENTIMES IT IS ONE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S OKAY.
I THINK, FOR US TO STEP INTO THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S NOT UNHEALTHY TO HAVE THAT, BUT IT IS HEALTHY TO MAKE SURE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, AND THEN MY WAY OR THE BOARD'S WAY IS COMPROMISED SELLING OUT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT YOU SERVE OR THAT YOU LIVE WITH.
THE RUBBER STAMP CONUNDRUM, WHICH OFTENTIMES IS WHY MAYBE A 5-0 BOARD ISN'T ALWAYS THE HEALTHIEST.
IF THERE'S GROUP-THINK INVOLVED, THERE'S A LOT OF NEGATIVES TO THAT.
CONFIDENTIALITY, TRUSTEE LEADER OR A FOLLOWER, YOU ARE HERE TO LEAD.
WE'RE ALSO ALL FOLLOWING THE AGENDA OF THE DISTRICT.
HANDLING TRUSTEE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, AND THEN WHAT DO I DO WHEN I VOTE NO, AND IT PASSES? HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT? WHAT WE WANTED TO DO REALLY QUICK IS GET US UP AND MOVING.
I'LL WALK THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND GO THROUGH EACH OF THE 10 DISTRACTIONS THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, WE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION WE SUMMARIZED.
NOT TO SAY SOMEONE DIDN'T DO THEIR READING, BUT JUST IN CASE SOMEONE DIDN'T, WE WILL QUICKLY SUMMARIZE.
THAT'S FOR YOU, JACKIE, WILL QUICKLY SUMMARIZE.
>> I READ IT 10 MINUTES BEFORE THIS STARTED, BUT I READ IT.
>> WE WILL DO A QUICK SUMMARY, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS HAVE YOU PUT STICKY NOTES.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE WALK BACK THERE WITH YOUR STICKY NOTES.
WE ARE CURIOUS WHICH ONE YOU FEEL IS THE BIGGEST DISTRACTION AND/OR OBSTACLE FOR YOU.
THEN WHAT WE WILL DO IS THEN FOCUS ON THAT ONE AND WE WILL END OUR EVENING JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
LET'S GO ON A FIELD TRIP, LET'S GO BACK HERE TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
>> ALL RIGHT, IT IS 750, SO WE WILL RESTART AGAIN.
>> THIS LAST SECTION AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FINISH EARLY TODAY.
>> THIS LAST SECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MOST HELPFUL FOR US IN PLANNING
[C. Review Board Goals and Set 2023-24 Priorities - Denny Waters]
NEXT YEAR'S AGENDA AND JUST IN TERMS[02:05:01]
OF YOUR LEARNING FOR THINGS THAT YOU WERE HIGHLY INTERESTED IN, WAS THE DISCUSSION ON TOPICS THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HEARING PRESENTED AT BOARD MEETINGS SO THAT WE COULD GET OUR SCHEDULE SET FOR NEXT YEAR.I'LL REMIND YOU THAT LAST YEAR, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WORK SESSIONS ON, OBVIOUSLY, WE DID WORK SESSIONS AROUND THE BOND, WE DID WORK SESSION SESSION AROUND BUDGETING, WE DID A WORK SESSION AROUND THE CTE PROGRAMS, WE DID A WORK SESSION AROUND DATA AND TEST RESULTS, WE DID A WORK SESSION AROUND PLCS AND WAIVER DAYS, AND WE DID A WORK SESSION AROUND CURRICULUM AND CURRICULUM ADOPTIONS.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP IN A BUDGET HEARING.
AND I ALWAYS THINK THAT THAT'S PRODUCTIVE FOR US TO DO ANYWAYS.
BUT THE REST OF THOSE ARE OPEN-ENDED.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, WE MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION AROUND THE BENEFITS, THE NEGATIVE SURROUNDS THE CAPITAL LEVY.
THAT COULD OBVIOUSLY BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON.
BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES.
I CAN THROW OUT SOME OTHER THINGS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ON THE LIST THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WAS MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER THAT WE OPERATE, THE FCRC LIKE I SAID, CURRICULUM CYCLE CALENDAR, AND BUDGET PLANNING FOR THAT, MULTI-TIERED SYSTEMS OF SUPPORT AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON OUR NEW MTSS IMPLEMENTATION AND YOU MIGHT FIND THAT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, BEGINNING EDUCATOR SUPPORT TEAM OUR BEST, HOW WE MENTOR OUR TEACHERS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL COUNSELING MODEL.
CYBERSECURITY IS ANOTHER GOOD ONE.
FENTANYL DRUG EXPOSURE IS ANOTHER GOOD ONE.
THE DISTRICT SMART TEAM, AS YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE HAVE A CRISIS SITUATION, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD TO SUICIDE RECENTLY.
WE PUT INTO ACTION OUR SMART TEAM.
SMART STANDS FOR SCHOOL MOBILIZATION ASSISTANCE RESPONSE TEAM.
AND WE GO OUT AND WE SUPPORT THE STAFF AND THE STUDENTS AT THE SCHOOL THAT BEEN IMPACTED AND AFFECTED.
SO WE COULD LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.
SPECIAL ED IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF LAWS, IS A LOT OF RULES, THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO STAY COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO STAY UP ON.
THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT YOUR INTERESTS IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT OUR CLASSIFIED STAFF AND MAYBE SHOWCASING SOME OF OUR CLASSIFIED STAFF AND THE ROLES THAT THEY DO.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR PARENT EDUCATORS, AND THE ROLE THAT THEY WORK ON.
WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING ONE ON IMPLEMENTATION SCIENCE, WHICH IS THE STUDY OF HOW YOU IMPLEMENT NEW INITIATIVES AND HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD INITIATIVES.
FEDERAL PROGRAMS YOU'VE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR TEACHERS ABOUT THE INFLUX OF ELL STUDENTS.
AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.
TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN YOU'VE HAD AN INTEREST IN TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN IN OUR EARLY LEARNING PROGRAMS. WE BROUGHT THAT UP LAST YEAR, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FIT IT IN.
OUR WRITE AT SCHOOL PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR AFTER SCHOOL AND BEFORE SCHOOL PROGRAM WHERE WE SUPPORT FAMILIES BY PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.
OUR K4 ACADEMIES, OUR SCL ROOMS IS ANOTHER ONE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY SPECIAL INTEREST IN ANY OF THOSE THAT WE COULD TRY TO WORK IN.
>> AND SOME OF THOSE TOO, WE COULD DO IN TWO PARTS,
[02:10:01]
ONE MONTH OR TWO MONTHS LATER, FOR INSTANCE, MTSS AS A CONVERSATION, WE COULD DO THAT IN MULTIPLE PARTS.WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT AN MTSS SYSTEM IS ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD.
WE COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT THE INTERVENTION PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE SPECIAL ED LAB, TITLE ONE, EL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT AND A PART TWO.
WE COULD STRUCTURED A VARIETY OF WAYS IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF A FORMAT AS WELL.
>> EVEN LIKE MAYBE A THREE-PART SERIES ONLINE.
MAYBE IPS AND SPECIAL ED AND USE OF RESTRAINT.
LIKE HOW ALL OF THOSE TIGHT TOGETHER.
>> USE OF RESTRAINT IS ANOTHER TOPIC THERE.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO'D NEED A WHOLE WORK SESSION OR THAT, BUT I'D JUST BE INTERESTED.
AFTER 40-YEAR ABSENCE, WE REINSTITUTED THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
I HOPE I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THOSE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, SO IT'S NOT JUST SPORT IT'S VARIETY OF THINGS.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL ATTENDANCE IN THAT? ARE WE BUILDING DEMAND? IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY.
THOSE ARE NOW MORE ENGAGED FAMILIES THAT ARE DOING EXTENDED SCHOOL TIME OR EXTENDED EXPERIENCED TIME.
HOW CAN WE GET THEIR VOICE AND HOW THAT HAS BECOME BENEFICIAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S A GOOD ONE. SHELLEY'S WRITING THESE DOWN.
>> MOM HAS DONE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF DATA COLLECTION TO PROVIDE THE DATA METRICS EXACTLY.
>> I'M WONDERING, WHEN WE DO THAT? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME OF THE FAMILIES COME AND JUST BRIEFLY TELL THEIR STORY OF HOW IT'S IMPACTING THEM.
AND I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED ANOTHER ONE.
WE HAVE ALA PROGRAMS IN THE DISTRICT AND THEY TAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE.
AND THEN AGAIN, HAVE SOME STORIES.
>> I SENSE THAT THE LORD HAS GREATLY APPRECIATED THE STUDENT VOICE INCREASE, ESPECIALLY THE MIDDLE AND PRIMARY SCHOOLS COMING TO PRESENT.
I SEE A LOT OF HEAD SHAKING AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THERE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THOSE?
>> BUT TO MARY'S POINT, MAYBE AN AREA THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON IS MAYBE WE CAN GET MORE PARENT FAMILY VOICE.
>> ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE INFORMATION WHERE PARENTS ARE KIND OF THE LOW-HANGING FRUIT WHEN IT COMES TO INFORMED YES VOTERS.
IT'S THE EASIEST DEMOGRAPHIC FOR US TO TARGET WITH MARKETING.
>> WHEN I'M EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN PROGRAM AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BENEFITING FROM THAT.
IT'D BE FUN TO HEAR A COUPLE OF THE FAMILY STORIES FROM THAT AND TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT AS WE TRIED TO BOOST THAT AND GROW IT.
>> WHEN SOME OF THESE MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY TAKE THE FORM OF WORK SESSIONS, BUT RATHER BE INCORPORATED INTO THE BOARD MEETINGS THEMSELVES.
>> THEY COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO TEACHING AND LEARNING REPORT OR SUPERINTENDENT REPORT [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T PUT A FAMILY ON THE LINE.
[LAUGHTER] YOU GOT AN HOUR [LAUGHTER] FOR 20 MINUTES.
>> IT'S JUST BRIEF STORIES FROM THEM.
>> COULD THE CLASSIFIED STAFF PORTION, COULD YOU DO THAT IN A WAY THAT INTEGRATES A COUPLE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS, IF MAYBE THEY [OVERLAPPING] ASKED BY STAFF AND HERE'S HOW THEY SUPPORT THESE.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF GET A MULTITUDE OF ITEMS.
>> WELL, I THINK SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THEY STAND OUT, NUMBER ONE, OUR PARAEDUCATORS WHO ARE WORKING IN SPECIAL EDUCATION, BUT ALSO OUR PARAEDUCATORS THAT ARE WORKING IN OUR FEDERAL PROGRAMS OR LAP OR TITLE OR THE INTERVENTION PROGRAMS. BUT I ALSO THINK ABOUT THE FCRC AS ANOTHER GROUP AND LIKE I SAID, THE ELL PROGRAM, ALL OF THOSE.
SO WE COULD KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
>> THERE IS STUDENT SPECIALIST IN THE FCRC THAT I LOVED [INAUDIBLE] ANYWAY, THEY REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB.
>> AND I THINK WHAT THAT DOES ALSO FOR US IS IT ALSO ALLOWS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF OUR STAFF.
SO IF WE GO FROM THAT THREE-PRONGED APPROACH WHERE WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF AND WE WANT TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO HEAR STUDENT VOICE.
[02:15:06]
THOSE ARE WAYS THAT BRINGING THOSE COMPONENTS INTO OUR BOARD MEETINGS, IT'S A GOOD THING.I THINK WE DO THAT IN TERMS OF RECOGNITION OF AWARDS AND STUFF, BUT JUST TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK ITSELF WOULD BE SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO.
>> I LIKE TO RENEW REQUESTS ONE TIME DURING THE COVID TIME WHEN EVERYBODY WAS ONLINE, I COULD ATTEND A LOT OF THE PTO MEETINGS BECAUSE EVERYBODY MOVED ONLINE AND I COULD SIT AT HOME AND JOIN, BUT IT'S A LOT TOUGHER WHEN THEY'RE ALL MEETING IN PERSON.
BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME OF THE STORIES BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.
OUR PTO HAS DONATED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, VERY TARGETED TO THEIR SCHOOL.
I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE THEM BE ACKNOWLEDGED FOR THE CONTRIBUTION THERE.
>> THAT'S VERY GOOD INFORMATION. WHAT ELSE YOU GOT?
>> WELL, I KNOW ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IS SAFETY AND THAT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY ON CACTUS LIST AS WELL AND YOU MENTIONED THE SMART TEAM.
IS THERE A WAY TO TIE THAT TOGETHER? I KNOW WE DID INCREASE THE SECURITY IN OUR BUILDINGS, BUT THIS ALSO SEEMS LIKE IT'S A PART OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
>> WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE THE HEAD OF THE SMART TEAM LEADERSHIP, DOWN RIGHT HERE.
>> I THINK ABOUT SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL SAFETY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SMART TEAM PROVIDES AFTER AN EVENT THAT PROBABLY GENRES THEIR SENSE OF PHYSICAL SAFETY AS WELL.
[INAUDIBLE] IN THIS SITUATION LIKE THAT.
SO I COULD SEE US MAKING A CONNECTION THERE, ABSOLUTELY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER COMPONENTS OF IT AS WELL, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER PIECES OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT ARE BEYOND THE BUILDING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THAT COULD REALLY BE A GOOD WORK SESSION, BECAUSE YOU REALLY COULD TIE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL COUNSELING PLAN PREVENTION INTERVENTION STAFF THAT ARE CLASS ONLINE.
>> WHAT IF WE TOOK IT FROM THE APPROACH OF A WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE DONE A WORKSHOP THAT HAS TARGETED HIGH-QUALITY INSTRUCTION.
BUT IF WE DID A STAFF WORK SESSION THAT TARGETED SAFE AND CARING ENVIRONMENT.
BECAUSE UNDER SAFE AND CARING ENVIRONMENT IS ALSO THE EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.
WE ACTUALLY TIE IN A BUNCH OF THOSE WITH THAT.
>> ONE, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PUBLIC PIECE OF THAT IN A BOARD MEETING SO THAT THE COMMUNITY SEES HOW WE'RE TAKING SAFETY SERIOUSLY AND SECURITY SERIOUSLY.
I THINK THESE ARE ALL GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOWCASE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ADVANCE OF ASKING.
THEY CALL IT MULTILINGUAL AN HOUR.
>> AGAIN, WE HAVE EXPLODED IN THAT.
>> I KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL IS AWARE.
>> WE WOULD WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> I THINK SOME OF THE VOICES WE'VE HEARD FROM TEACHERS WHEN THEY'VE GOT DOCUMENTS.
HOW MUCH OF A STRUGGLE THAT IS IN LIFE.
>> WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ON BEST-PRACTICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IT'S ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED AND IT'S ABOUT THE BEST PRACTICES.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE RESEARCH SAYS.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT OUR CHALLENGES ARE AS A DISTRICT.
SO THAT ONE COULD EASILY BE A WORK SESSION IN ITSELF OR A SERIES OF PRESENTATIONS.
>> AND I HAVE TO PRESENT MY TTIP GRANT.
USUALLY I DO THAT IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
I PUT A GRANT PROPOSAL TO BE SUBMITTED TO OMPI ANYWAY.
>> WE COULD DO IT RIGHT AROUND THEM.
THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IN THOSE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE BUCKETS OF MONEY GO? BECAUSE THERE'S THIS PERCEPTION SOMETIMES THAT ALL THAT MONEY IS COMING IN HERE.
>> AND THAT THEY ARE CATEGORICAL.
>> CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THOSE THINGS.
>> WE DO IT IN AUGUST [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] SEASON. [LAUGHTER]
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
>> IN TERMS OF DATA, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ATTENDANCE DATA AND I KNOW THAT THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THAT ATTENDANCE PIECE AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT IN THE YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
>> WE UNDERSTAND THE REASONS BEHIND IT WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW THEIR WORK HAS PROGRESSED ON THAT.
[02:20:01]
SO THAT'S WHERE MY MIND TENDS TO GO.WE'VE BEEN SIGNING A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES TO COLLEGES.
WE'VE BEEN MOVING ON OFFERS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND THINGS AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT ENOUGH.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH STUDENT VOICE COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT KEEPS GETTING LEFT OUT.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT ABOUT 1-3 TIMES A YEAR, ACING SEASONAL SPORTS, THEY SIGN A COMMITMENT LETTER AND THEY HAVE THEIR SIGNING DAY.
AND IT'S GREAT THAT IT GETS RECOGNIZED AT THAT SCHOOL.
BUT WE AS A DISTRICT, IT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS. WE SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE SUCCESSES AND THE ACHIEVEMENT AND HARD WORK AND DEDICATION IT TAKES TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.
>> SO MAYBE INVITING THEM AND BE RECOGNIZE THEM.
>> RECOGNIZING THEM, HONOR THEM, AND THEN IF YOU TIE THAT BACK INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS PROGRAMS AND MAKING MAYBE SOME CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETES AND HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE USE OF [NOISE] REDUCTIONS.
THAT BECOMES A SENSE OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF MENTORSHIP IS THE RIGHT WORD.
BUT IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND SEE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE FOR THEM.
THAT'S NOT SUCH A FAR-OFF DREAM FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT.
AND JUST TO SEE THAT I JUST CONNECT THOSE DOTS.
>> THAT MAKES ME THINK OF THE PRAIRIE SENIORS WHO WENT BACK TO GLENWOOD AND DID THE TOUR.
LIKE IMPLEMENTING THAT IN ALL SCHOOLS LIKE THAT SAME SORT OF LOOKING UP TO THE OLDER KIDS.
>> WE DID THAT IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
>> WELL, THAT WAS THE VIDEO I SAW.
I'M GRAND IT WAS IN ALL SCHOOLS.
>> IT DID HAPPEN. THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR AS WE CALL THEM GRADUATION LUNGS.
>> BUT THAT LOOKING UP TO THE OLDER STUDENTS, THAT'S REALLY GOOD IDEA.
>> I THINK MAKING THE CONNECTION AND CONNECTING THE DOTS IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.
THEY SEE WHAT HARD WORK CAN LEAD.
>> BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR OUT FOR THEM THAT THEY HAVE NO REAL PERCEPTION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
>> ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN HAVE THE SENIORS TELL THEIR STORY.
VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? THOSE ARE WONDERFUL IDEAS. THANK YOU.
>> WILL WE HAVE A TOUR OF THE CAM CAMPUS BEFORE AUGUST? [INAUDIBLE]
>> I THINK THAT WE CAN, BUT I REALLY KNOW THAT KEVIN WOULD LIKE US TO DO IT ONCE THAT THIRD BUILDING IS IN AND THAT WON'T BE TILL OCTOBER.
>> LATE FALL. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME GRAND OPENING.
BUT HE WANTED TO BE WHEN THE ENTIRE FACILITY IS COMPLETED. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN THE ENTIRE THING IS DONE, I UNDERSTAND.
>> BECAUSE HE'S EVEN BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING.
>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] WE'LL HOLD OFF ON.
>> BUT IT LOOKS GREAT, DOESN'T IT?
>> I WISH WE COULD HAVE GOT INTO THAT LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT WHEN WE INITIALLY PROPOSED IT BACK WHEN.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE STARTED, RIGHT WHERE IT IS NOW, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING.
SO THAT'S IT FOR US AND IT'S 8:10.
>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE [INAUDIBLE]?
>> WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT BY MY CLOCK, 8:09.
>> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.