[00:00:01]
MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
[1. Call to Order]
WE WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR SPECIAL MEETING TODAY, MONDAY, APRIL 24TH.I'M JUST CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND THEN TURNING OVER TO MR.
[A. Bond Discussion - Denny Waters]
WATERS. YES, THANK YOU, JACKIE.I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE WORD, MADAM PRESIDENT.
JACKIE WORKS GREAT, MADAM PRESIDENT.
SO THE FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING FOR MOST OF YOU ON THE BOARD, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ANDREW, WHO'S NEW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF REPEAT INFORMATION.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO KIND OF TAKE THAT TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 6 OR 7 MONTHS AND AND BUNDLE IT TOGETHER TO PAINT A BIG PICTURE FOR YOU IN CONSIDERATION OF A POTENTIAL BOND RUN IN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING.
WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES, MR. JOLMA KEVIN. AMANDA IS HERE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND WAS A BIG PART OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY SHELLY.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO OF OUR CAC MEMBERS, LANCE CARTER AND DAVID LYNN.
BOTH OF THEM ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE CAC MEMBERSHIP AS FAR AS THIS GOES.
SO MY PLAN IS TO PRESENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 35 TO 40 MINUTES, WHICH WOULD LEAVE US WITH 20 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS.
AND IF WE NEED THAT TIME, GREAT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I'VE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL BE DONE EARLY.
SO FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT HERE, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO HERE ARE OUR PREVIOUS BOND MEASURES.
THESE ARE OUR LAST FOUR BOND MEASURES, STARTING WITH THE MARCH OF 2005, WHICH WAS THE LAST TIME THAT BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS PASSED A BOND.
I BELIEVE THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THAT BOND.
KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? DO YOU THINK LOCAL SHARE WAS AROUND 55 MILLION? LOCAL SHARE, YEAH.
SO AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, 55 MILLION, WHICH ENABLED US TO BUILD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX SCHOOLS, SEVEN SCHOOLS FOR $55 MILLION. YEAH.
SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A SUCCESSFUL BOND SINCE THEN.
THAT WAS WE PASSED THAT WITH, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, 60 1.09% OF THE VOTE, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY ABOVE THE 60% THAT'S NEEDED IN ORDER TO PASS A BOND BECAUSE A BOND REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY.
WE THEN RAN A BOND IN NOVEMBER OF 2016 AND GOT 55.43.
THAT WAS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MARK HOLLOWAY.
WE HELD OFF AGAIN WHEN MARK ROSS BECAME SUPERINTENDENT.
WE TRIED AGAIN IN FEBRUARY OF 2018 AND JUST BARELY FAILED 58.68.
MY RECOLLECTION IS WE WERE LESS THAN 200 VOTES AWAY FROM PASSING THAT BOND.
AND THAT WAS A THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT BOND.
THAT WAS A $220 MILLION BOND THAT WE JUST MISSED OUT BY 200 VOTES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE LOST THE VOTE.
IT WENT DOWN TO 53.87, ALMOST 54%.
AND THAT WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD GIVEN IT A GOOD COLLEGE TRY AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET IT PASSED, SO WE BACKED OFF FOR THEM. WE HAVE NOT RUN A BOND SINCE 2018, OBVIOUSLY COMPOUNDED AND MADE MORE COMPLICATED BY THE COVID PANDEMIC THAT WE WENT THROUGH.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES.
LISA, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IN PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER 2016 BOND RUN THAT I REFERENCED JUST A SECOND AGO, WE PUT TOGETHER A FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT TEAM.
IT'S THIS DOCUMENT AND YOU HAVE THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
[00:05:05]
IT'S THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT.AND IT WAS A IT WAS A IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
IT WAS A COLLECTION OF ABOUT 15 COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS.
IT HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE DISTRICT AND THEY DID SOME EXCELLENT WORK IN CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD IN A BOND.
THIS DOCUMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER AND IT ASSESSED OUR CAPITAL NEEDS.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN, THEY CAME UP WITH SIX AREAS OF NEED THAT THEY LOOKED THROUGH. ONE REPLACEMENT AND RENOVATION OF AGING BUILDINGS TO BRAND NEW FACILITIES TO LOOK TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY GROWTH OR NEW ENROLLMENT.
AT THE TIME, BATTLE GROUND WAS THE WORD WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GROW SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND BATTLE GROUND DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF NEW GROWTH THERE.
SO BUT NEW FACILITIES WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT CAPITAL RENEWAL PROJECTS.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT CAPITAL RENEWAL PROJECTS, THOSE ARE RENOVATION OF SOME CRITICAL AREAS OF NEEDS LIKE ROOFS AND AND CARPETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT WAS JUST AREAS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SAFETY AND TECHNOLOGY, EDUCATIONAL ENHANCEMENTS WERE THINGS LIKE LOOKING AT NEW PROGRAMS LIKE STEM PROGRAMS AND CTE PROGRAMS AND THEN ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, ATHLETIC UPGRADES, MOSTLY LOOKING AT TURF FIELDS, IMPROVEMENT OF DISTRICTS, STADIUM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. NOW, REMEMBER, THIS WAS BACK IN 2015.
THAT'S THE KIND OF GIVE YOU THE UPDATED INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.
FOR INSTANCE, YOU'LL SEE THAT REPLACING THE DISTRICT OPERATIONS BUILDING IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE REWRITTEN OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN AND WE'RE NOW ABLE TO USE IMPACT FEES TO REPAIR THAT.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, FOR INSTANCE, OVER THERE, THE CAPITAL RENEWAL PROJECTS SUCH AS REPLACING CARPETING AND FLOORING, UPDATING DOOR LOCKS, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE AREAS UNDER SAFETY, UPGRADING THE MAIN SCHOOL ENTRANCES.
WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT, NOT ALL OF THAT, UPGRADING THE AMBOY GYM COVERED PLAY AREA AT MAPLE GROVE, YAKULT AND AMBOY, REPLACING THE DISTRICTS, THE TURF AT DISTRICT STADIUM.
ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.
LISA, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT STAGE? BUT THE BIG THINGS THAT YOU NEED A BOND IN ORDER TO DO THOSE.
AND I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GO INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PHASE TWO OF THE PLAN OR PHASE THREE OF THE PLAN, BECAUSE WITH THOSE THREE THOSE THREE BOND FAILURES, WE NEVER WERE ABLE TO GET TO PHASE ONE OF THE PLAN.
SO THE BIG THINGS IN PHASE ONE OF THE PLAN WERE TO REPLACE GLENWOOD HEIGHTS PRIMARY AND LAUREN MIDDLE SCHOOL TO REPLACE PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY AND PLEASANT VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL TO REPLACE THE DISTRICT OPERATIONS BUILDING AND TO REPLACE PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL 500 THROUGH 900 BUILDINGS.
WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT.
SO THAT'S THAT'S NO LONGER A NEED FOR US.
BUT THOSE OTHER ONES CONTINUE TO BE HIGH NEEDS.
AND SO THE FIT IN LOOKING AT THIS, I AGAIN DRAW THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE FIT PLAN TO SEE THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH HAVEN'T CHANGED IN THE EIGHT YEARS SINCE THIS PLAN
[00:10:08]
WAS WRITTEN. OKAY.NOW, IN PREPARATION TO GET INFORMATION FROM VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, WE DID A NUMBER OF THINGS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS THAT WE DID A THOUGHT EXCHANGE.
THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE WAS CONDUCTED IN DECEMBER OF 2022, AND WE ASKED PARTICIPANTS ABOUT THE TOP FACILITY NEEDS IN THEIR BUILDINGS.
AND MOSTLY THIS WAS DONE WITH STAFF.
OKAY. SO PARENTS AND STAFF AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THE THINGS THAT ROSE TO THE TOP.
OBVIOUSLY, THE BIGGER THE WORD, THE THE MORE INTENSE OR THE MORE MORE RESPONSES WE GOT IN THOSE AREAS. BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAME UP.
YOU KNOW, CLASSROOMS INSIDE DOORS, SECURITY DOORS, SECURITY FOR THE BUILDING, ROOFS THAT THE BUILDINGS WERE OLD, THAT THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, A PLEASANT VALLEY, FOR INSTANCE.
THERE WAS NOWHERE FOR STUDENTS TO EAT, THAT SOME OF OUR CLASS, SOME OF OUR SPACES HAD HAS HAD SOME LEAKS THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WILL STRESS THAT, KEVIN, WHENEVER WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A LEAK, HE'S ON IT IMMEDIATELY.
SO THESE CERTAINLY CAME UP AND GAVE US SOMETHING AS KIND OF A STARTING POINT TO LOOK AT.
WE CERTAINLY HAD A INCREASED VORACITY OF RESPONSE FROM CERTAIN BUILDINGS.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU COULD GUESS WHICH BUILDINGS THOSE WERE.
WE WE GOT VERY FEW CONCERNS FROM OUR NEWER BUILDINGS.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR OLDER BUILDINGS, AGAIN, WE'VE MENTIONED THEM ALREADY.
BUT ANDREW, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, GLENWOOD LAWN.
GLENWOOD IS OUR OLDEST BUILDING.
LAUREN IS OUR SECOND OLDEST BUILDING.
IT WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 60S, RIGHT? PLEASANT VALLEY WAS BUILT IN 78, 79 SOMEWHERE, RIGHT, IN 76.
RIGHT. AND PRAIRIE WAS BUILT IN 79, RIGHT.
SO. SO BUT THOSE WERE THE BUILDINGS THAT CAME THAT THAT PROMPTED MUCH OF THIS DISCUSSION.
SURE. LEAST YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND.
NOW TO GO WITH THIS TO GIVE US A GOOD IDEA.
SO WE WE I GUESS MY POINT IS, ALONG WITH THAT FIT RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALONG WITH THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE AND ALONG WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT ALL OF US HAVE HAD IN THE DISTRICT.
IT DOESN'T TAKE AND YOU GUYS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH THE SAME CONCLUSIONS.
IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO KNOW WHERE OUR PRIMARY NEEDS ARE AS A DISTRICT.
WE ALSO DID BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH.
I MEAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE AROUND AND YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH.
WE ALSO WENT AFTER AN ENROLLMENT STUDY.
YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE ENROLLMENT STUDY.
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ENROLLMENT STUDY.
BUT THE BIG THING ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT STUDY THAT IS SIGNIFICANT FOR US IS THAT CURRENT HEAD COUNT, 12,235 PROJECTED HEAD COUNT TEN YEARS FROM NOW IS 14,467. THAT MEANS WE CAN EXPECT A GROWTH OF OVER 2000 STUDENTS.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING IS IT NUMBER ONE IS GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO AN AGE GROUP, WHICH MEANS THAT CERTAIN BUILDINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE THAN OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN AREAS OF THE DISTRICT.
[00:15:01]
AND AGAIN, MANY OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR DISTRICT, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY GUESS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE SOUTHERN END OF THE DISTRICT, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE PRIMARY SCHOOL GROUPINGS BECAUSE THAT'S KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FOURTH GRADE AND THEN THAT PUSHING UPWARDS INTO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING POPULATION IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.OUR HIGH SCHOOL POPULATION IS DECLINING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR ALL THE TIME THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS WE HEAR THE CITIZENS IN THE NORTH SAY TO US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A HIGH SCHOOL BUILT IN THE NORTH.
AND SO WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WHAT WE FIND IS THERE IS NO NEED, AND NOT FOR THE LONG TERM, NOT FOR AT LEAST AT LEAST TEN YEARS, PROBABLY MORE LIKE 15 TO 20 YEARS.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL IN BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AT PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT AS WE LOOKED AT THIS IN THE CAC TEAM, THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY SERIOUSLY LOOKED AT LEAST THE NEXT SLIDE.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD IS WE WORKED WITH STRATEGIES 360 AND WE DID A PUBLIC PERCEPTIONS OF BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS POLL.
AND YOU HAVE THAT AGAIN, IT'S IN YOUR FOLDER.
WE PRESENTED THOSE RESULTS TO YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON THE KEY RESULTS.
THE KEY RESULTS ARE THIS SLIDE RIGHT UP HERE THAT THE PUBLIC IS SPLIT ON OUR FUNDING NEEDS.
46% OF OUR PUBLIC SAYS THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
AND THIS INCLUDES TAKING CARE OF BUILDINGS, BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS, AND 46% SAID THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT OR TOO MUCH FUNDING. 8% WAS UNSURE.
THIS SPECIFIC INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT HAVING TO CONVINCE OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT A BOND, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SUPERMAJORITY, WE HAVE TO GET TO 60%.
SO NOT ONLY WOULD WE HAVE TO WIN OVER THAT 8% WHO ARE NOT SURE, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO GET ANOTHER 6% OUT OF THE HAVE SUFFICIENT OR TOO MUCH FUNDING.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BONDS AND LEVIES AND JUST THE TAX SUPPORT THAT WE GET AND RECEIVE THE FUNDING SUPPORT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW BUILDINGS ARE BUILT.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT FUNDING.
I THINK AT CURRENT AS WE CURRENTLY SPEAK.
I THINK THE STATE IS PROVIDING 275, MAYBE $300, MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT MUCH, MAYBE TWO 242.
THE STATE IS REQUIRING $242 A SQUARE FOOT FOR FUNDING A PERCENTAGE OF OUR FUNDING.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT FEATURE OF THIS PUBLIC OPINION POLL.
AND I THINK WHAT WAS WHAT WAS MADE CLEAR TO ME, I WANT TO AND I WANT TO STRESS THIS, THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO OUR DISTRICT, BUT WE DO HAVE A WE ARE IN A TIME WHERE TAX SENSITIVITY IS VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH.
[00:20:01]
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PUBLIC OPINION POLL SHOWED THAT 56% OF OUR CONSTITUENTS BELIEVE THAT TAXES ARE ALREADY TOO HIGH.32%, ABOUT RIGHT, 8% TOO LOW AND 4% DON'T KNOW.
AGAIN, 60% IS THAT IMPORTANT THRESHOLD.
WE JUST GOT MICHELLE AND I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE COUNTY ASSESSOR WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS THAT HE'S FEELING HE'S HEARING FROM IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY, NOT JUST OUR DISTRICT WHO ARE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THE UNAFFORDABILITY OF PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS IS ALL TIED INTO BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED ASSESSED VALUES.
AND WHAT'S THAT DOING FOR INDIVIDUALS? WE REMEMBER THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY IN NORTH COUNTY RECEIVED THOSE PROPERTIES.
THOSE ARE INHERENT PROPERTIES, INHERITED PROPERTIES.
AND SO THESE HAVE BEEN IN FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS AFTER GENERATIONS.
AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY HAD THE INCOME IN WHICH TO BUY THEM NOW.
AND SO TAXES ARE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE FOR US AS WE LOOK AT THIS.
THE LAST INTERESTING I GUESS I GOT TWO MORE OF THESE.
ONE MORE, THE LAST INTERESTING ONE IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
THE BEST APPROACH REGARDING SCHOOL BUILDINGS THAT ARE AGING.
64% OF OUR OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SURVEYED SAID THAT THEY WOULD RATHER SEE REMODELING OR RENOVATING VERSUS REPLACING OLD SCHOOLS.
ONLY 19% SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ACTUALLY REPLACING OLD SCHOOLS.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT REPLACING GLENWOOD OR REPLACING PRAIRIE OR REPLACING LAUREN OR PLEASANT VALUE.
PLEASANT VALLEY. THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR US.
NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE OUR CURRENT COSTS.
OUR CURRENT BOND RATE IS AT 44% PER 1000 ASSESSED VALUE.
NOW WE REMEMBER THAT BOND IS SUNSETTING AT THE END OF 2023.
IT WILL NO LONGER BE ON THE BOOKS.
OUR PROJECTIONS RIGHT NOW IS THAT $0.50 IS CURRENTLY EQUAL TO $170 MILLION IN LOCAL FUNDING.
AND WE CHOSE $0.50 BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE TO THE 44.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF WE REPLACED THE CURRENT BOND THAT SUNSETTING AND WE JUST GOT IT CLOSE, LET'S SAY LET'S SAY WE RAN IT FOR 44.
WE CAN DO THE MATH THERE AND SAY 44 WOULD PROBABLY GET US WHAT, $160 MILLION $162 MILLION SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND IN THAT AREA. BUT $0.50 WILL GET US $170 MILLION.
YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY WE PUT THE $0.70 WILL GET US $240 MILLION IN LOCAL FUNDING IN JUST A SECOND.
NEXT SLIDE. SO ALL ALONG WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE GOING TO VOICE THEIR OWN THOUGHTS ON A POTENTIAL BOND RUN IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
BUT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO THANK THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS HAS BEEN JUST AN OUTSTANDING GROUP FOR US.
THEY THEY HELPED US LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A LEVY AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
THEY DID WORK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM.
[00:25:06]
SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING.REALLY, THEIR MAIN TASK THIS YEAR HAS BEEN TO LOOK AT A POTENTIAL BOND RUN.
SO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS TAKEN ALL OF THE SAME INFORMATION IN THAT YOU RECEIVED.
AND WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IS THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST, TAKING THE GUIDANCE FROM, AGAIN, THE FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT TEAM, LONG RANGE PLAN AND AND JUST WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT FROM THE DISTRICT AND PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND THE ENTIRETY OF THE LIST IS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET IT'S ON THIS SHEET OF WHITE PAPER.
AND NOT ONLY DID THEY PUT TOGETHER A LIST, BUT THEY ALSO RANKED IT.
AND EVEN THOUGH LAUREN IS NOT AS OLD AS GLENWOOD HEIGHTS PRIMARY, THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING IS POOR.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT ROSE ABOVE GLENWOOD HIGH.
GLENWOOD HEIGHTS IS A IS A IS A IS A GREAT BUILDING.
YEAH. BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, A BEAUTIFUL SETTING, LARGE CLASSROOMS. SO IT HAS THAT GOING FOR IT, BUT IT STILL HAS SIGNIFICANT NEEDS.
PLEASANT VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS THIRD.
PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY SCHOOL WAS FOURTH.
AND ALL OF THESE WERE VERY CLOSE.
THE CAT TEAM RECOGNIZES THAT SECURITY UPGRADES WOULD BE NEXT.
NETWORKING AND CABLE WIRING WOULD BE NEXT.
ROOF REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.
THE TEN PLEX AT YAKULT ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE AMBOY 300 BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY PUT TOGETHER ON THIS SHEET.
I DO WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS SHEET, THOUGH, BECAUSE WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SHEET ARE THE PRICES AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOSE ARE OLD PRICES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SIX MONTHS OLD.
THEY ARE THE PRICE TAG IS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER.
I WOULD SAY THE PRICE TAG IS ALMOST 10 TO 15% HIGHER THAN THAN YOU'RE SEEING THERE.
EVERYTHING THEY THEY SAID THAT AT THE LEAST, WE SHOULD RUN A REPLACEMENT BOND.
SO A REPLACEMENT BOND AGAIN, COULD GET US PROBABLY $160 MILLION.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT NOW, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 500 MILLION, I WOULD SAY.
WELL, IF YOU COST ITEMS ONE THROUGH 14 AGAIN, I'M GOING TO PREFACE THIS.
AT THE TIME THAT WAS 235 MILLION.
IT'S INCREASED CONSIDERABLY AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT SO THE CAC TEAM FELT STRONGLY AND DID A LOT OF GOOD WORK.
SO AGAIN, AS THE BOARD DECIDES, IF THEY CONSIDER IF THEY ANSWER THE PRIMARY QUESTION OF SHOULD WE RUN A BOND, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION.
BUT THEN THE NUMBER TWO QUESTION OF WHAT TO CONSIDER FOR THE BOND.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CAREFULLY REFERENCE THIS SHEET.
NEXT SLIDE. SO AT THIS TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO CALL UP DAVID LINDNER.
AND DAVID IS A MEMBER OF THE CAC, AND HE'S PUT TOGETHER A JUST A BRIEF, SOME BRIEF REMARKS FOR THE BOARD AND TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE CAC IS WITH ALL OF THIS.
SO HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I SEE YOU'RE AT THE SCHOOL FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, DATA IS GREAT.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LOT OF DATA IN FRONT OF YOUR HANDS.
BUT STORIES ARE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE.
HE HE AND HIS WIFE DID THE DAVE RAMSEY DEBT SNOWBALL.
[00:30:05]
THEY WENT THEY PAID OFF 100 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS, WENT TO THE RAMSEY HEADQUARTERS AND DID THEIR DEBT FREE SCREAM AND THE WHOLE THING.AND SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY BIG ON NO DEBT, YOU KNOW, NO DEBT, NO DEBT, NO DEBT.
AND AND SO WE'VE KIND OF HAD THIS ONGOING CONVERSATION ABOUT CARS AND DRIVING OUR OLD CARS.
AND ALL OF MY CARS HAVE OVER 200,000 MILES ON THEM.
AND MY BROTHER WAS HAS AN OLD TRUCK OR HE HAD AN OLD TRUCK THAT WAS TEN YEARS OLD.
AND HE TALKED TO ME YESTERDAY.
AND SO WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
AND HE SENT ME THIS PICTURE OF THIS TRUCK.
AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS TRUCK AND I'M THINKING, THAT'S A PRETTY NICE TRUCK.
I'D REALLY LIKE I'D LIKE TO HAVE A TRUCK LIKE THAT.
MAYBE. MAYBE WE NEED TO MAYBE WE NEED TO RETHINK THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE STORIES I THINK STORIES ARE POWERFUL.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STORIES BEING TOLD ABOUT OUR DISTRICT.
OUR STORIES HAVE A LOT OF GOOD GOING FOR THEM.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF STORIES BEING TOLD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
SOME OF THEM TRUE. SOME OF THEM USED TO BE TRUE AND THEY'RE NO LONGER TRUE.
BUT I THINK WHAT WHAT DENNY STARTED TO PICK UP ON A LITTLE BIT IS THERE'S A NEW STORY THAT'S THAT'S BEEN FORMING IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THAT'S THE STORY OF CITIZENS WHO REALLY CARE. YOU KNOW, CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE IS FULL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SCHOOLS AND WANTING THE SCHOOLS TO SUCCEED.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG.
IT'S NOT THAT OLD. IT HASN'T HAD AS MUCH TIME TO TO GET A FOOTHOLD IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IT'S GROWING AND IT'S STARTING TO EXCEL.
AND THAT THAT STORY THAT'S BEING TOLD FROM THAT COMMITTEE IS THIS THAT THAT GROUP IS A PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVOTED TO SEEING THE DISTRICT, NOT JUST SURVIVE BUT EXCEL.
WE WANT TO SEE AN EXCELLENT SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THAT THEY ARE THEY ARE EXCITED AND PASSIONATE ABOUT BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMUNITY AND WANTING TO HAVE MORE UNITY BETWEEN THE TWO WHEN THERE ISN'T, BUT ALSO BELIEVING THAT THE SCHOOL AND THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION ARE READY TO DO WHAT'S NEEDED.
FROM THE STORIES I'VE HEARD, IT WASN'T THERE IN THE PAST.
BUT NOW THERE IS THERE IS AN EXCITEMENT ABOUT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
AT OUR LAST MEETING, AS DENNY SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS YEAR OFF AND ON TALKING ABOUT THE BOND AND OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER A MEETING WHERE IT WOULD IT WOULD GET THE MOST HONEST RESPONSE.
WE JUST WANTED AN HONEST RESPONSE.
BUT THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ON THE ON THE PAPER WAS IF WE RAN A BOND, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD PASS? SO THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION AND THAT WAS MIXED.
BUT THEN ON THE WAY OUT, WE TOOK ANOTHER ANONYMOUS POLL.
AND ON THE WAY OUT WE ASKED THE QUESTION.
WE CHANGED THE QUESTION, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD RUN A BOND? AND 19 OUT OF THE 20 RESPONSES SAID YES.
THE ONE RESPONSE THAT WASN'T SURE WROTE A NOTE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BOND.
SO THEY WERE THEY WERE UPSET ABOUT A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
SO EVERYONE WHO IS VOTING PURELY ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD RUN A BOND SAID YES.
SO BASICALLY FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THERE'S THERE'S A UNANIMOUS.
RESPONSE, SAYING THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT.
WE ALL WANT OUR KIDS TO BE SAFE.
THAT SEEMS TO BE AN INCREASING ISSUE THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
AND WE BELIEVE EVERY STUDENT SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME SACRIFICE ON OUR PART TO DO THAT.
THERE ARE GOOD REASONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TO NOT RUN A BOND.
AND DENNY MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE.
INFLATION WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT CAME UP.
THE NEW FIRE DISTRICT TAX, THE THREE 60 SURVEY, THE RELENTLESS NATIONAL NARRATIVE AGAINST SCHOOLS THAT'S JUST ALWAYS GOING.
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A DRIP ANYMORE.
IT'S JUST A FIRE HOSE OF A NARRATIVE.
[00:35:03]
BUT IT'S A IT'S A STORY AND IT'S A STORY BASED ON FEAR.AND, YOU KNOW, THE STORY THAT'S BEING TOLD OUT THERE IS FEAR OF OF WHAT WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLS OR FEAR, YOU KNOW, FROM A DISTRICT SIDE.
WELL, WHAT IF WE DO IT AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
AND AND AFTER OUR MEETING LAST THURSDAY, I LEFT FEELING LIKE THERE'S A DIFFERENT MOTIVE THAT MIGHT BE DRIVING THAT THAT COMMUNITY, THAT COMMITTEE.
AND IT'S NOT FEAR, WE'RE NOT AFRAID OF TRYING SOMETHING AND FAILING, BUT WE'RE DRIVEN BY HOPE.
AND WHAT IS THE HOPE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY? WHAT'S THE HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY? AND WE THINK THE HOPE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS IS IS NOT JUST EDUCATION, BUT STRONG CITIZENS WHO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND AND WERE ROOTED TOGETHER IN IT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, LET US KNOW.
OUTSTANDING. I ALSO HAVE TERRY DODSON, WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN FOR THE CITIZENS FOR BETTER SCHOOLS, WAS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE'S ALSO THE ANNOUNCER FOR THE PRAIRIE BASEBALL TEAM.
AND THEY HAD A RAIN OUT LAST WEEK AND THEY HAVE A GAME TODAY.
HE SAID, DENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CONVEY TO THE BOARD THAT I HAVE HAD SEVERAL INQUIRIES FROM FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE ON THE CITIZENS FOR BETTER SCHOOLS COMMITTEE AND WANT TO HELP WITH PASSING A BOND NEXT YEAR WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD GIVES YOU THE GO AHEAD.
WE BELIEVE IN OUR ABILITY TO PASS A BOND.
PLEASE PASS ON TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT OUR COMMITTEE IS ALIVE AND WELL AND LIKE A GOOD SCOUT GROUP, WE ARE ALWAYS PREPARED AND STAND READY TO SERVE.
SINCERELY, TERRY DODSON, CHAIRMAN BATTLE GROUND CITIZENS FOR BETTER SCHOOLS.
DAVID HIT ON MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE.
BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BESIDES THE BESIDES THE TAX SENSITIVITY, BESIDES THE AS DAVID CALLED IT, THE THE POLITICAL NATURE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER.
NUMBER ONE IS RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
NOTHING IS GETTING CHEAPER, NOR WILL IT GET CHEAPER.
KEVIN WAS COMMENTING TO ME THAT WHEN WE PASSED THAT LAST BOND, YOU BUILT TOOLS FOR, WHAT? 23- 24 MILLION? 23 OR 24 MILLION.
THAT SAME BUILDING NOW WOULD COST US OVER 100 MILLION.
NUMBER TWO IS THAT WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A CURRENT BOND THAT IS SUNSETTING.
IF WE RUN IT EITHER IN NOVEMBER OF 23 OR IN FEBRUARY OF 24, WE CAN REFER TO IT AS A REPLACEMENT BOND. ANYTHING AFTER THAT.
AND OUR CITIZENRY IS GOING TO GET USED TO THE IDEA OF NOT HAVING IT.
AND AGAIN, $0.50 WILL RAISE $170 MILLION.
WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR YOU ON THE LAST SLIDE, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT FIGURE IS.
WE ARE CERTAINLY WORRIED ABOUT GROWTH.
IF THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO, WE WOULD INCREASE OUR CAPACITY AT THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO WE WOULD BE ADDING EVEN THOUGH WE WOULDN'T BE BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS, WE WOULD BE ADDING CAPACITY.
[00:40:01]
CURRENTLY. CURRENT CAPACITY FOR PLEASANT VALLEY IS RIGHT AROUND 500.SO IT WOULD INCREASE CAPACITY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THOSE SCHOOLS.
WE DO HAVE CONCERNS OVER THE TIMING FOR THIS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT BONDS AND LEVIES ARE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IF YOU ASKED US, WE WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEVY.
WE CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT A LEVY.
AND REMEMBER, IF WE WERE TO RUN A BOND IN 2024, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN 2025 AND RUN A LEVY.
SOMETIMES CITIZENS GET CONFUSED AND THEY SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
I JUST SUPPORTED THAT A YEAR AGO.
I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT NOW.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A GOOD TIME BECAUSE IF WE WAIT AND DON'T RUN A BOND NOW AND RUN A LEVY IN 2025, THEN IF WE CAME BACK IN 2026 TO RUN A BOND, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WAIT, WE JUST SUPPORTED THAT.
SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THAT PREDICAMENT.
BUT THAT'S A CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ALONG WITH THE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH THE THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT IN TERMS OF FUNDING, I THINK DAVID POINTED IT OUT AND OUR SURVEY POINTED IT OUT.
OUR PARENTS THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICT ARE RATING US STRONGLY.
SO WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD MOBILIZE OUR PARENT GROUP TO HELP US WITH THIS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO OUR STUDENTS TO PROVIDE THE BEST EDUCATION.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE THE HOPE, AS DAVID POINTED OUT.
WE HAVE THE THE BOND CONSIDERATIONS, ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THIS WAS WHAT THESE ARE IN OUR MINDS AND IN THE MINDS OF THE TEAM.
THE CRITICAL PROJECTS, LAUREN GLENWOOD, PLEASANT VALLEY AND PLEASANT VALLEY.
IF WE WERE NOT HAVE THAT FORM IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL PRICE OF THOSE? WAS IT KELLIE? DO YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU? 247. 247.
SO WE HAD THOSE PEGGED IN AND THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE THE PRICE INCREASE.
IT'S ALL YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD OVER THERE.
SIX MONTHS AGO, WE HAD THOSE PLUGGED IN AT A TOTAL OF $237 MILLION.
WE WOULD GET $64 MILLION FROM THE STATE TO DO THAT PROJECT.
SO IT WOULD COST US $173 MILLION.
NOW THE NEW PRICE IS $312 MILLION.
MY GOODNESS. THE PRICE THE MONEY WE'RE GETTING FROM THE STATE NOW HAS NOT INCREASED AT ALL.
SO THE LOCAL SHARE TO REPLACE THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS WOULD BE $248 MILLION.
YEAH. WE BELIEVE $248 MILLION WOULD TRANSLATE TO APPROXIMATELY $0.70. 70 CENT BOND WOULD GET US IN THE BALLPARK OF THOSE.
THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, DOING THE MATH.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A SOUTH ONLY.
EVEN OUR MEMBERS OF THE CAC TEAM WHO ARE FROM THE NORTH, EVEN THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE FROM YACOLT AND AMBOY, SAID THAT THOSE SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY.
[00:45:03]
AND IF WE HAVE TO KEEP THE NUMBER LOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD GO AFTER.AND THE OLD PHILOSOPHY FOR US ABOUT SPREADING IT OUT OVER ALL THE SCHOOLS MAYBE WON'T BE APPROPRIATE, BUT THEY'D RATHER SEE WHAT WE NEED VERSUS WHAT WE WANT.
SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD.
I'M GOING TO STOP AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES LEFT AND IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANYBODY ANY QUESTIONS, AGAIN, MY GOAL IN THIS WAS TO PUT ALL THE INFORMATION FOR YOU TOGETHER SO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH, YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE BRING THIS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND ASK THE FORMAL QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD RUN A BOND IN THE LAST MEETING IN MAY.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IF WE COULD MAKE A DECISION TO RUN A BOND, THEN WE COULD START ACTIVATING SOME OF OUR EFFORTS OVER THE SUMMER TO PASS THAT.
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO RUN THE BOND IN FEBRUARY FROM A VOTER STANDPOINT.
BUT MICHELLE WAS ABLE TO GET SOME CRITICAL INFORMATION.
IF WE DO RUN A BOND IN NOVEMBER, BUT IT'S A GENERAL ELECTION.
IT'S HARDER TO PASS BONDS IN A GENERAL ELECTION.
SO AGAIN, ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT.
MR. JOLMA. MY IMPRESSION I REALLY WANT TO TAKE THE HEART THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST TO REMODEL WHERE WE CAN. BUT HAVING SPENT SIGNIFICANT TIME AROUND GLENWOOD LAWN, IT SEEMS DIFFICULT.
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON IT? WHICH ASPECT WOULD BE DIFFICULT? TRYING TO REMODEL, TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE GROWTH AND YEAH, THE ISSUE WITH LAUREN IS IT'S MADE UP OF WHAT, SIX INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS.
PROBABLY SAFETY IS YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN.
THAT'D BE THE HARDEST THING LAUREN TO ENCOMPASS ALL THOSE BUILDINGS AND ONCE YOU INVEST MORE THAN 20% OF THE VALUE OF THAT BUILDING YOU NEED TO UPGRADE THE FACILITY TO ADA SEISMIC, WHICH WOULD BE HUGE.
SO THERE IS A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN PUT IN BEFORE YOU HAVE TO TOTALLY RENOVATE IT.
THE SITE IS SUITABLE TO REPLACE THEM QUITE EASILY.
THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION AS WELL.
ON LAUREN. ON LAUREN SPECIFICALLY.
GLENWOOD WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE.
KEVIN I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF PUTTING A PERMANENT GYM AND CAFETERIA, TRANSFORMING THE EXISTING GYM AT GLENWOOD TO INTO OFFICE SPACE AND MAYBE EVEN CLASSROOM SPACE, AND THEN BUILDING A SEPARATE GYM AND KIND OF A MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL DEALING WITH SOME SAFETY CONCERNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE BUILDINGS WERE ALL BUILT BACK IN THE 1930, 40, 50 YEARS AGO. SO THAT'S A CONCERN.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PLEASANT VALLEY, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE, TOO, RIGHT? EXACTLY. SAME, SAME FORMAT.
AND THAT'S BEEN A TROUBLESOME ROOF THAT WE'VE HAD ON THAT BUILDING SINCE THE DAY IT OPENED.
I'VE HEARD YOU REFER TO IT AS BAD BONES.
YEAH. IT'S A SUPER UNIQUE BUILDING.
THEY'RE BOTH VERY, VERY UNIQUE IN THAT THEY'RE JUST A HUGE SHELL MADE WITH.
ALMOST TEMPORARY WALLS, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S NOT A IT'S A VERY UNIQUE STRUCTURE.
THEY'RE BOTH UNIQUE STRUCTURES.
[00:50:10]
LEAK THAT THEY DEALT WITH THAT THEN CAME IN OVER OVER WHAT WE THOUGHT THE COST WAS GOING TO BE.THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE ON THOSE CAMPUSES.
LAUREN CERTAINLY HAD ITS WATER LEAK ISSUE.
PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY FLOODED CLASSROOMS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THAT DISPLACED KIDS, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN A STUDENT IN THE DISTRICT AT AMBOY MY WHOLE LIFE AND THEN AT AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT, I THINK WE'RE ALL TAXED TO THINK ABOUT IS THE EQUITY THAT THAT CREATES FOR KIDS WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR SAME CLASSROOM.
AND AND SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE STORIES THAT WE'RE ALSO TELLING IS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS HAVE AT THE STUDENT LEVEL.
AND SO THERE'S, OF COURSE, THE YOU KNOW, KEVIN DOES A NICE JOB PATCHING THINGS TOGETHER AND CERTAINLY EVEN UPGRADING WITH LIMITED FUNDS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FACILITIES PLAN AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE WITHOUT A BOND.
BUT CERTAINLY THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT THOSE FUNDS CAN DO TO HELP GET US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT REMAIN FOR OUR STUDENTS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN ANYBODY WITH A LOT OF WORK.
BUT THE ANALOGY OF THE MONTHLY BILL TO REPAIR THE 200,000 MILE TRUCK, WHAT ANNUALLY HAVE WE PUT INTO THESE SCHOOLS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS IN REPAIRS AND UPGRADES? AND AND WHAT COULD WE HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR A NEW SCHOOL? AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT TO THAT EXTENT, BUT HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE GO BEFORE IT IS RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING EITHER YOU, KEVIN OR MICHELLE, COULD PUT TOGETHER TO KIND OF REVIEW ONE OF MY ONE OF MY BIGGEST.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS IN MY CAREER IN BATTLE GROUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS THAT WE PLAY THIS GAME WHERE WE ARE HESITANT TO PUT MONEY INTO THOSE SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S EASILY A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION FOR FOR PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY, PLEASANT VALLEY, MIDDLE ABOUT 125 EACH. SO THAT'S A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THIS IDEA.
WE DON'T DO IT. AND IF WE DO DO IT, THEN HOW LONG DO YOU WAIT? YOU KNOW, SO YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE STOPPED THAT THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME TEN, 15 YEARS AGO WHERE WE WERE JUST LETTING THESE BUILDINGS FALL APART, WHERE KEVIN DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT IN AND WAS TOLD, DON'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO THOSE BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM.
AND SO TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU PLAY THIS GAME, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU PUT INTO THEM? VERY DIFFICULT.
VERY DIFFICULT FOR FOR ALL OF US.
WELL, IN JUST THE EMERGENCY REPAIRS ALONE ARE SIGNIFICANT.
YES. JUST IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD, AND I'M SURE MARK CAN ATTEST TO IT AS WELL, JUST THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, APPROVING CONSENT AGENDAS OR APPROVING WORK ORDERS FOR OR COSTS FOR REPAIRS.
SO OR EMERGENCY RESOLUTIONS FOR REPAIRS.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT.
SO I THINK SEEING THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE HUGE.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THAT, BUT I WILL I'LL REVISIT THAT.
THANK YOU. I WAS AT A MEETING TODAY AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BY THE HEAD OF THE VANCOUVER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FORECAST FOR THE POPULATION OF CLARK COUNTY AND WHAT THAT MIGHT DO TO HOUSING.
AND I THINK THE IRONY OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING ARE PRECISELY THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED IN THESE FORECASTS IF THESE FORECASTS ARE CORRECT.
SO THERE'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT THERE.
[00:55:04]
I'D ALSO LIKE TO YOU COMMENTED DENNY EARLIER ABOUT NOT RUNNING A BOND IN 24 BECAUSE WE NEED A LEVY IN 25 AND NOT RUNNING A BOND IN 26 BECAUSE WE JUST PASSED HOPEFULLY PASSED A LEVY IN 25, RIGHT? SO I WAS A PARENT.I MEAN, I'M STILL A PARENT, BUT I WAS A PARENT AT THE TIME OF THE 2015 AND 2018 FAILURES, AND WE RAN BOND AND LEVY TOGETHER AND WE WERE GRATEFUL WE GOT ONE RIGHT.
WE WANTED BOTH, BUT WE WERE GRATEFUL WE GOT ONE.
AND SO NOW IT'S TIME TO CONSIDER OUR BUILDING.
I WOULD SAY DON'T RUN THEM TOGETHER, BUT I WOULD NOT EITHER, RIGHT? BECAUSE RUNNING THEM TOGETHER IS A DEATH BLOW BECAUSE PEOPLE GO, WELL, WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE AND I'LL VOTE ONE YES AND ONE NO BECAUSE IT'S A HARD HIT.
IT WOULD BE HARD. I AGREE 100%.
IT'D BE HARD TO DO THE YEAR PRIOR OR THE YEAR AFTER.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT LATELY WE HAVE SEEN IN EVERY DISTRICT ACROSS SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON, WHENEVER A MEASURE IS BEING RUN, WE HAVE SEEN AN ORGANIZED NO VOTE AGAINST IT.
BUT WE HAVE SEEN AN ORGANIZED NO VOTE AGAINST IT.
I KNOW YOU CITED THE $0.44 CURRENTLY, BUT I CAN THINK BACK TO JUST BARELY A YEAR AGO.
YEAH. AND I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE GRAPH OF WHEN WAS IT, $0.70.
AND I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT IT WAS RIGHT NEAR THE LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR A BOND.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN $0.72 OR $0.78 OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S MY MEMORY. YEAH. BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THE ACTUAL DATA.
YOU FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE GOING DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT.
LIKE I SAID, THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO RUN A BOND, WE WERE ASKING FOR THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS PLUS THE PRAIRIE REMODEL, PLUS A NEW SCHOOL, TWO NEW SCHOOLS, BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE A MIDDLE PLUS AMBOY'S NEW THE FRONT PART 300 BUILDING, PLUS THE CAM REPLACEMENT AT THE TIME.
THAT WOULD BE OVER 400 MILLION NOW.
SO THAT'S THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK BY EVERYBODY WHO HELPED WITH THIS.
MICHELLE SCOTT HAS BEEN OF GREAT HELP.
KEVIN HAS BEEN YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT HIM.
THE CAC TEAM, SHELLY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IT'S BEEN A IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN A TEAM EFFORT.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ADJOURN THIS SPECIAL MEETING.
ORDER OF BUSINESS. SO WHERE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN.
AND I PERSONALLY WENT TO CHIEF UMTUCH, WHICH IS A NEWER SCHOOL, AND SEEING EVEN THOSE LIKE DISCREPANCIES THERE HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR TO ME AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO VISIT ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS.
BUT RICARDO WENT TO PLEASANT VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND LIKE EVEN JUST THE DIFFERENCES IN EXPERIENCES WE'VE HAD FROM THOSE TWO SCHOOLS, ALTHOUGH LIKE ALL THE STAFF AND EVERYTHING IS GREAT, IT'S JUST THE PHYSICAL COMPONENTS AND THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THE ECONOMICS STUFF, NOT AS MUCH. BUT YEAH.
WELL, ON THAT NOTE, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS SPECIAL MEETING AT 5:30.
YAY! LOOK AT THAT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.