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OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS OCTOBER 24TH, 2022, SPECIAL SESSION, WORK SESSION ON CAPITAL FACILITIES,

[1. Call to Order]

ONE OF OUR ANNUAL REPORTS TO ORDER AND ALSO SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY PIPER SANDLER AND COMPANY.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.

THAT'S GREAT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

SOME GREAT INFORMATION FOR BOTH THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THERE'S FOOD OUTSIDE THE DEAL.

THE CAMERAS MIGHT GO OFFICE AS WE GOT HINTED, WHEN WE FOCUS TOWARDS THE POWERPOINT, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR CHEWING SCENES AS YOU AS YOU WANT DURING THAT TIME.

AND, MR.

[2. Facilities Discussion]

WATERS, DO YOU WANT TO START IT OR WE TURN IT RIGHT OVER TO KEVIN? NOW, LET'S JUST START.

WE'RE KIND OF TIGHT ON TIME.

OH, OKAY. I KNOW, I KNOW.

WE HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE CHOCK FULL OF INFORMATION.

SO WE AGAIN, I'LL ECHO YOUR THOUGHTS, MARK.

I APPRECIATE OUR GUESTS BEING HERE TO GIVE US SOME BOND INFORMATION.

KEVIN'S GOING TO PRESENT FOR ABOUT A HALF HOUR ON THE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED.

THEN WE'LL HAVE THE BOND PRESENTATION JUST TO GIVE THE BOARD SOME INFORMATION, AND THEN KEVIN HAS SOME INFORMATION TO PILE ON TOP OF THAT THAT WILL FIT IN TERMS OF PRICES AROUND WHAT WHAT POTENTIAL PRICES WOULD BE FOR THE LAST BOND THAT WE RAN IN THE DISTRICT.

NOW UPDATED AND JUST SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO EVEN CONSIDER A CAPITAL LEVY, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT COULD PLAY IN THE PICTURE.

SO WITH THAT, MR. JOLMA, YOU KNOW, I WISH TO ECHO WHAT MR. WATERS SAID. USUALLY I HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF FOR, TO SHOW YOU A PROJECT AND REVIEW OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE DISCUSS IT IN DEPTH.

THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A PRESENTATION REVIEW WITH COMMENT LATER.

IF YOU SEE SOME THINGS THAT OR NOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DRAMATIC THAT YOU WANT TO SEE MOVED ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

BUT YEAH, SO WE'RE CRAMMED IN HERE TODAY.

HOW ABOUT OUR FIRST SLIDE? SO WE'RE GOING TO DO LOOK AT PROJECTS WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR, MY LAST LEVY BUDGET YEAR.

SO THIS IS A BUILDING JUST STRAIGHT SOUTH OF US WHERE OUR PRINT SHOP IS.

WE PUT A NEW ROOF ON AND A NEW HVAC SYSTEM IN THAT BUILDING THIS SUMMER.

ALSO TO HELP US GET READY FOR THE TO GET CAM IN THERE, WE ADDED A FEW EXTRA.

THESE ARE SPLIT SYSTEMS WHICH ARE SERVED TO HEAT THOSE OPEN AREAS.

NEXT. THIS WAS A LITTLE PROJECT WE GOT ASKED TO DO SOMETIME IN MARCH OR APRIL, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE SAME OVER AT PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL, OVER AT THE BATTLE GROUND WEIGHT ROOM BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL WEIGHT ROOM.

IT HAD REALLY GOTTEN DINGY.

I WISH I'D TAKE ONE MORE PICTURE.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS AFTERWARDS.

I HAVE REPLACED THE LIGHT SINCE THEN AS WELL, AND IT JUST IT TURNED OUT REALLY COOL.

FOOTBALL TEAMS SEEMED EXCITED ABOUT IT.

EVERYONE ELSE NOT TOO BIG OF A PROJECT WE DID THAT WAS ALL DONE IN HOUSE.

BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.

WE ARE ON YEAR TWO THREE.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE THREE, REPLACING ROUGHLY 5.1 ACRES OF CARPET IN THAT BUILDING.

SO THIS JUST SHOWING THAT UPPER HAND LEFT WHERE WE RAN INTO THE OLD ASBESTOS TILES AND WE HAVE TO REMEDIATE ALL OF THAT BEFORE WE CAN PUT IN OUR NEW OUR NEW FLOOR. AND THE BOTTOM IS JUST WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

BOTTOM LEFT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER WE'VE CLEANED OFF THE TILES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE LARGER PICTURE, THAT'S INSTALLATION.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOME OTHER PROJECTS WE DID.

WE DID A TEN PLEX AT.

WE REPLACED CARPETING AND A TEN PLEX AT CAPTAIN STRONG, AS WELL AS TWO ROOMS AT MAPLE GROVE PRIMARY AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOT OF THE BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL BAND ROOM.

I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A BEFORE AND AFTER, BUT IT TURNED OUT REAL NICE AFTERWARDS.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE ALSO FINISHED THIS SUMMER.

PLAY SHEDS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO ADD PLAY SHEDS AROUND THE DISTRICT.

I JUST LOVE THIS SETTING UP IN AMBOY BEFORE, IF YOU RECALL THAT RUNDOWN, THE PLACE COVERED PLAY SHED WAS FIVE OR 600 YARDS AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL BACK WHERE THE OLD SCHOOL WHERE I TORE THAT ONE DOWN.

SO WE PUT THIS IN THERE COURTYARD LAST SUMMER AND GETTING GOOD REVIEWS.

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WE FINISHED UP AT THE TUKES VALLEY CAMPUS.

WE HAD SOME WORK AT OUR GUYS COULDN'T DO.

WE HAD TO BRING IN A SANDBLAST PROFESSIONAL SAND BLASTER ON SOME OF THESE CANOPIES.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU WE WERE IN TWO SUMMERS.

WE'VE COMPLETELY PAINTED THE ENTIRE CAMPUS.

THAT'S WHAT IT TURNS OUT LOOKING LIKE WHEN WE'RE DONE.

GRADUATION AGAIN, WE CHANGED OUR FORMAT THIS YEAR.

INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE END ZONE, WE PUT IT ON THE CENTER LINE OF THE FIELD AND HAD MOST PEOPLE UP IN THE STANDS.

WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR THAT AGAIN WITH SOME OTHER MODIFICATIONS AND OPTIONS IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER.

A LOT OF OUR WORK WAS CAM.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DID A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSE PAINTERS PAINTED IT, ALL THE CABINETRY YOU CAN SEE WE DID GOT A LOT OF GRIEF FOR THOSE YELLOW CABINET TOPS, BUT I LOVE THEM.

IT'S GOT A NICE SEVENTIES VIBE.

THE GREEN WALL BEING PAINTED ON THE RIGHT.

IT WAS ALL FADED, RUSTY, NOT RUSTY, BUT FADED AND WEATHERED LOOKING WOOD JUST HAD NO LIFE TO IT, SO WE ENDED UP PAINTING IT.

SCOTT MC DANIELS PUT IN HIS IT AND ALL OF HIS WIRELESS, SO EVERYBODY HAS THAT.

SET THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO I JUST PUT A BUNCH OF PICTURES IN HERE.

NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE TO GET READY FOR CAM, BUT I HAD TO RELOCATE SOME OF MY FOLKS WHO ARE IN CLASSROOMS THAT CAM NEEDED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU WE CONVERTED A LOCKER ROOM, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT UP OR LEFT A NICE PURPLE PAINT.

WE ENDED UP MOVING OUR PAINT ROOM INTO ONE OF THOSE LOCKER ROOMS, PAINTED IT ALL WHITE, REDID THE CEILING.

THAT UPPER PICTURE IS THE GYM AND OUR STORAGE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WHICH WILL LEAD ME TO MY DISCUSSION OF THE WAREHOUSE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY WE NEED TO DO.

WE WERE ABSOLUTELY JAM PACKED.

IT WAS A FULL TIME JOB JUST COORDINATING FURNITURE IN AND OUT, RELOCATING A SCHOOL INTO THERE, TAKING ALL THE FURNITURE FROM THE DISTRICT, TAKING ALL THE COVID CHANGES FROM THE DISTRICT. SO IT WAS JUST A REAL HASSLE.

BUT WE DID IT. WE ALSO RE PLUMB THE BUILDING, OUR PLUMBERS, OUR PLUMBERS.

WE REPLACED THE OLD BRADLEY'S, WHICH ARE LIKE IN THIS BUILDING, THE OLD BRADLEY BIG CONCRETE BARREL TYPE SINK.

WE REPLACED THOSE MY PAINTERS HAVING A LITTLE FUN UP THERE IN THE RIGHT.

I TOLD THEM TO PRETEND I WASN'T THERE.

AND THEN ON THE LOWER RIGHT WHERE WE ALSO, WE ALSO USE 32ND CLEANER AND AND POWER WASH THE SO IF YOU'VE NOTICED THE CAMPUS IT WILL GET TO IT. GO AHEAD. THERE'LL BE MORE PICTURES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ROOMS WE IN THE UPPER LEFT.

THAT WAS WHERE ALL THE PAINT CAME FROM THAT WENT IN THAT LOCKER ROOM.

REALLY, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT ROOM SHINE ACTUALLY LOWER LEFT.

YOU CAN SEE US PAINTING ALL THESE OVERHANGS IN THE IN THE CAMPUS HERE.

YOU'LL I HOPE YOU'VE NOTICED THAT IT LOOKS A LOT TIDIER AND PAINTED UP THE FELL ON THE CENTER THEY'RE SHOVING [INAUDIBLE] PLUMBING PECS, PLASTIC PLUMBING WHERE WE PLUMB THE ENTIRE BUILDING, THE B BUILDING.

AND JOSH AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH OUR SCIENCE TEACHERS GOING OVER THE SCIENCE LABS.

WE'D NEVER DONE ONE IN A MODULAR, SO IT WAS A DIFFERENT STEP.

AND AND THEY TAKE A WHACK.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MUCH LARGER THAN A STANDARD CLASSROOM.

MOST STANDARD MOST CLASSROOMS ARE TWO MODULAR NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

THIS ONE'S THREE. WE ADD AN ENTIRE MODULE.

IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT.

UPPER LEFT THERE, WE HAD TO ADD A CONVERTED A RESTROOM INTO AN ADA RESTROOM.

WE WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE, SO WE TORE IT ALL APART AND NOW WE ARE JUST TO THE RIGHT OF IT AS A COUNSELOR'S OFFICE WE MADE IN THE OLD WORKSHOPS.

THAT'S WHERE THE COUNSELOR IS.

DOWN LEFT IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING PICTURE.

THAT'S NOT TWO PICTURES.

I'M STANDING RIGHT BETWEEN THE FOLDING WALL BETWEEN THE CLASSROOMS IS OPEN AND I'M SHOOTING A PICTURE SHOWING TWO CLASSROOMS. THAT'S THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE NEW LIGHTING.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE OLD LIGHTING.

SO IT REALLY, REALLY JAZZED THAT UP.

WELL, THAT UPPER IS SPLITTING THE LIBRARY INTO TWO CLASSROOMS. FUNNY THING ABOUT THAT, THAT'S HOW THE SCHOOL WAS CONSTRUCTED.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED.

EVERYTHING WAS IN OUR PLACE.

THE HVAC SYSTEMS WERE SEPARATE.

THE SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE TORE IT DOWN AND TURNED IT INTO A LIBRARY AND NOW IT'S BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE.

AND THAT PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM IS THE PICTURE ON THE TOP FINISHED.

THE COURTYARD HERE WAS NOT SAFE ENOUGH FOR KIDS TO BE RUNNING AROUND.

THE FIRST FEW DAYS. I WAS OUT HERE WATCHING THE KIDS AND I JUST SAID, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

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SO WE SPENT A LITTLE MONEY, NOT TOO MUCH 14,000 GROUND OFF ALL THE OLD TETHERBALL THINGS THAT WERE ALL TRIPPING HAZARDS AND TOOK CARE OF LOW SPOTS BY THE DRAIN WHERE THERE'S BEEN SETTLING OVER 55 PLUS YEARS.

AND THEN ON THE THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE BEAM REPLACEMENT ON THE WE REPLACED ALL THOSE BEAMS. THERE WAS A BAD DESIGN.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. WE ELIMINATED THE BAD DESIGN AND WE GOT RID OF A BUNCH OF ROT AND WE'RE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

AND IT BEGINS.

THERE'S OUR FIRST DAY ON CAM WITH THE TWO CATERPILLARS.

GETTING SOD GETTING READY.

AND THE LAST PICTURE THAT I TOOK, YOU CAN SEE THE WEATHER CHANGED.

IT SHOWS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR FIRST BUILDING.

THAT'S THE MAIN WHERE I'M LOOKING STRAIGHT DOWN IS WHERE THE MAIN WALKWAY WHERE ALL THE KIDS WILL BE GOING IN BETWEEN THEM.

I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE VERY PLEASED WHEN IT'S DONE.

I AM SO FAR.

I WHIPPED THROUGH THAT CAMP SCHEDULE, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME UPDATES.

LAST WEEK, JOSH WENT DOWN TO THE THE FACTORY AND LOOKED AT WHERE WE WERE ON THAT MODULAR AND THEN FINISHED UP OUR DESIGN ON THE ADMIN BUILDING. WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THE ADMIN BUILDING EITHER.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE GRADE SEVEN THROUGH 12 MODULAR WILL BE COMPLETE FACTORY DECEMBER 12TH, ARRIVING ON SITE HERE DECEMBER 19TH.

THEN THERE'LL BE A MASSIVE CRANE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRANES YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR LIFE, PROBABLY ON SITE, SIX WEEKS OF ON SITE, JUST BUTTONING THINGS UP AND GETTING IT READY.

SO MY TENTATIVE GOAL IS TO MOVE.

MY GOAL IS TO GET THE FOUR CLASSROOMS OUT OF THIS BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT BACK HERE AND GET THIS CAMPUS, GET SOME RELIEF FOR CASEY.

THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I'LL MOVE THE NEXT SIX CLASSROOMS. THE 3 TO 6 GRADE MODULAR WILL BE BUILT IN THE FACTORY DECEMBER THROUGH MARCH, WITH ARRIVAL HERE MID-MARCH IN SIX WEEKS. TENTATIVE MOVE IN MAY ONE, WE MAY JUST SAY, NO, LET'S NOT DO THAT.

LET'S JUST GO FOR ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS.

LET'S NOT SEND THEM OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF A CONSTRUCTION SITE.

WE MAY BE PREFERABLE.

CONSTRUCT ADMINISTRATION, MODULAR.

THAT'S THE 300 BUILDING WE'RE CALLED IN SIX WEEKS.

I SHOULD HAVE A MOVE IN ON THAT IN JULY 24TH.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT.

DO I HAVE ANOTHER ONE? LISA YEAH, SO THAT'S KIND OF QUICKLY REVIEW IN THE SUMMER PROJECTS WE DID.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.

IT'S A REVIEW OF THIS YEAR AND THEN LOOKING AT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

OH, MAN.

CAN WE GET THAT? BIGGER, BIGGER, BIGGER.

THE YOU KNOW, THE GOOD THE REALLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS A THREE PAGE DOCUMENT.

AND I WAS STRUGGLING TO FILL IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I'M NOT STRUGGLING, BUT I HAD TO GO LOOK FOR NEW PROJECTS.

THIS STARTED OUT AS A 16 PAGE DOCUMENT NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO.

JUST BEFORE MR. HOLLIWAY CAME.

WE HAD A HUGE, HUGE BACKLOG IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS WE'VE TURNED A 16 PAGE LIST INTO THREE.

SO I'LL JUST GO OVER.

THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S THE GIST.

SHOW THOSE TWO. THOSE TWO.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY. OH, AND YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT.

YEAH. ELECTRONIC AND PAPER ALSO.

YEAH, I GOT ANOTHER COPY SEE HERE.

SO I PRETTY MUCH WENT OVER ALL THE YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THE 21-22 BUDGET YEAR.

SO WE'VE ALREADY REVIEWED LAST YEAR.

SO LET'S JUST CONCENTRATE.

CAN YOU PUT YOUR CURSOR ON.

YES. LET'S JUST START AT THE TOP RIGHT THERE.

YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT ON THE BUDGET NUMBER.

OH, TWO MORE COLUMNS OVER.

YEAH. JUST AND THEN JUST GO FROM THAT DOWN.

NOW EVERY YEAR I BUDGET SNOW REMOVAL, 20,000 WAREHOUSE CARPET GOING TO REPLACE THAT IN THE OFFICES IT'S JUST A SHAMBLES 16 FOOT MORE YOU'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT PURCHASE AND IT'S ALL IN ORDER.

MOSTLY EVERYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS GOING TO BE MANY, MANY SECURITY PROJECTS.

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THAT'S THAT WAS OUR OUR INTENTION AND OUR GOAL THIS YEAR IS TO GET ALL THE WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR FENCING ON THE EXTERIORS AND NOW IT'S TIME TO MOVE TO THE FRONT ENTRIES.

NEXT, I'LL BE THE OTHER ENTRIES.

BUT SO AT AMBOY, I BELIEVE I AM BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD.

YEAH, I'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD NEXT BOARD MEETING.

BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.

SAME THING THERE.

AND WE WANT TO JUMP IN AND START REPLACING THE HALLWAY CARPETS AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO TURN THAT THOSE INTO TILE HALLWAYS, SO THAT'S MUCH EASIER TO CLEAN.

I'VE GOT A ROOF I NEED TO REPLACE ON BATTLE GROUND.

I CAN'T WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.

CAPTAIN STRONG BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS PROJECT.

IT'S ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES ARE ORDERED.

THEY'LL BE HERE FOR INSTALLATION ON CHRISTMAS BREAK.

CHIEF. EXCUSE ME.

WE TOURED THAT AND I'M PROBABLY STILL THREE WEEKS AWAY BEFORE I'LL HAVE THAT QUOTE.

DAYBREAK BOTH WE'VE WALKED PRIMARY.

WE'RE WALKING THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO WEDNESDAY, BUT WE WALKED THE DAYBREAK CAMPUS.

I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT ONE AS WELL.

GLENWOOD. THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE REVISED MAIN ENTRY AGAIN, SAME STATUS PARTS AND PIECES ORDERED LOCALLY. INSTALL CHRISTMAS BREAK.

I GOT A LIBRARY ROOF THAT I NEED TO REPLACE AT GLENWOOD.

MAPLE GROVE OFFICE.

HAVE WE'VE PATCHED AND FIXED THIS HVAC SYSTEM FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

WENT DOWN AGAIN THIS SUMMER.

WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE UNIT THAT HEATS THE MAIN OFFICE AREA OF MAPLE GROVE.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE NOT WALKED THIS ONE YET.

THAT ONE MIGHT TAKE A BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TWIST WITH THE HOME LINK AND THEIR TRAFFIC, BUT I HAVE NOT WALKED THERE YET.

THE MAIN BUILDING WE ARE REPLACING THE ENTIRE HVAC CONTROLS THOSE THE ORIGINAL 1980 SOME THE NEXT ONE DOWN.

IF WE DON'T, I HAVE TO, OTHERWISE IF IT GOES DOWN AGAIN WE WON'T HAVE HEAT AND COOLING MAPLE GROVE PRIMARY.

WE HAVE WALKED. THAT BOARD HAS APPROVED THAT.

NO. YES BOARD HAS APPROVED THAT.

THAT WILL BE DONE AFTER OURS AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE PARTS PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL.

WE GOT TO REVISE THEIR MAIN MAIN ENTRY.

SECURITY HAVE NOT WALKED OUT WITH THEM.

HIGH SCHOOLS WILL BE LAST.

PLEASANT VALLEY PRIMARY BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THAT REVISED ENTRY WAY AGAIN CHRISTMAS BREAK INSTALLATION.

I HAVE NOT WALKED THE MAPLE GROVE TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL YET, BUT I ALREADY HAVE IT IN MY HEAD.

IT'S A PRETTY EASY ONE.

I'VE GOT A PORTABLE OVER THERE. I HAVE TO REPLACE THAT ROOF THIS YEAR.

TUKES VALLEY PRIMARY.

WE'VE WALKED PRIMARY.

WE HAVE NOT WALKED MIDDLE YET.

THAT'S WEDNESDAY.

SO I'LL HAVE HAD THAT WALK WEDNESDAY AND THEN.

YEAH, SAME THING THERE, FOLKS.

WE'VE WE'VE APPROVED THAT ONE AND NO, WE HAVE NOT.

THAT'LL BE WITH AMBOY AND IT'LL BE AMBOY AND YAKULT CALLED NEXT BOARD MEETING BUDGET.

I'M, I'M OVER BUDGET.

MICHELLE'S GOING TO COVER ME HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE ENTRYWAYS DOWN.

THAT'S NEXT YEAR.

WE'VE STILL GOT 10 MINUTES AT LEAST.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME FUTURE YEARS COMING? AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE LIST? TOP OF THE LIST. LIKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND YOU'RE THINKING AROUND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT FUTURE WISE, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IS THERE? CAN YOU EXPAND OUT? IT'S HARD TO READ. YOU GUYS HAVE YOU GUYS ALL HAVE THE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

WE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO THEM.

JUST WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IS.

BUT THAT'S FINE. WE CAN SEE ENOUGH THERE.

YEAH. AGAIN, WE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US SO WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AND FOLLOW ALONG.

SO WE JUST WENT OVER THE 22-23 BUDGET.

SO THE 23-24, YOU'LL STILL HAVE SNOW REMOVAL.

I'M GOING TO HEAR FROM MR. CHAMPION ABOUT MY FIELD HOUSE A YEAR AWAY KCC BUILDING.

WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEIR CARPET.

WELL, I GUESS I'M GOING DOWN TO NEXT YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO.

THEY'RE ALL RIGHT HERE.

I WANT TO GET THESE ALL DONE.

AND IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, THEY'RE ALL SHOWN BEING COMPLETED IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

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I THINK PERHAPS THE BOARD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT SOME OF THE REASONING BEHIND WHY YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO THOSE PROJECTS MORE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT I SEE IN THE NEXT YEAR, THERE'S SOME ROOF THINKING.

SO I SEE YOU GOT SECURITY ON THIS NEXT YEARS AND THEN SOME ROOFS ON THAT.

I'M WONDERING HOW ARE OUR PORTABLE.

WE'VE GOT SOME OLD PORTABLE.

YEAH. HOW ARE THE ROOFS HOLDING UP.

WELL YOU'VE SEEN TWO IN THERE AND I'VE GOT THREE MORE I'VE GOT TO DO THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

WE'VE GONE TO TEN FLEXES MOSTLY, WHICH ARE METAL ROOFS.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE LASTING FINE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE IN HERE IS I'VE, THERE'S A LOT OF ROOFS I NEED TO ADDRESS.

THE THE GREAT THING IS WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED THIS 16 PAGE LIST, IT WAS ALMOST HALF OF IT WAS SAFE, DRY AND WARM IS HOW WE LIVED TO GET ROOFS WAS HALF THE ALMOST HALF THE LIST.

WE HAVE REALLY ATTACKED THE ROOFS.

WE MAY HAVE A FEW A HANDFUL OF STUBBORN ROOFS THAT ARE STUBBORN LEAKS THAT LIKE TO REOCCUR.

BUT YEAH, NOW WE'RE INTO THE NEXT PHASE.

I'M GOING TO START WORKING ON MY 15 YEAR OLD, MY MY 14 YEAR OLD BUILDINGS.

IT'S TIME TO START RECODING THEM TO GET ANOTHER 15, 20 YEARS OUT OF THOSE.

DO IT BEFORE THEY'RE IN SHAMBLES.

FOR INSTANCE, LET'S START STARTING WITH THE TOP THERE.

WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR THINKING ON THE NEW MAINTENANCE FIELD FACILITY AND WAREHOUSE? WHEN DO YOU WHEN DO YOU ENVISION GETTING STARTED ON THAT? YEAH, I'M IN CONTACT NOW WITH A.

HUGE MULTINATIONAL, LARGE NATIONAL COMPANY THAT DOES THESE, AND ONE OF THEIR LOCAL BRANCHES IS HERE IN PORTLAND AND THEY SUPPLY UNDER THE SOURCE WELL CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE ALL THESE PORTABLES ON.

IT'S A COOPERATIVE.

THEY HAVE MY DESIGN AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A PRELIMINARY RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'LL START TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON THAT ON THE DESIGN.

SO WE'RE STILL DESIGNING IT.

I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME.

I DON'T HAVE IT PLUGGED IN.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE THAT PLUGGED IN BECAUSE IT'S 5.5 MILLION.

BUT IT ALSO IS IMPACT FEES.

BUT THAT'S IMPACT FEES.

YEAH. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WAS CURIOUS.

I MEAN, I'M NOT I JUST I'M CURIOUS TO FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT A IS THAT A PRIORITY? IS THAT WHAT THE IT'S 1 TO 2 YEARS? YES. YES.

AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL FOR JUST A MOMENT, YOU SEE IT SAYS THEIR REPLACEMENT TURF FIELD.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR THINKING THERE? OKAY. THIS IS OUR SUMMER CAMP.

CAMPUS HAS TAKEN UP ONE OF THE BATTLE GROUND HIGH SCHOOL'S MAIN SOCCER FIELDS.

I'M TALKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS ABOUT POTENTIAL TURF FIELDS THAT WOULD HOUSE A SOFTBALL FIELD AS WELL AS A SOCCER FIELD.

AND ORIGINALLY, I'D PLANNED TO REPLACE THIS CAMPUS NORTH OF THE STADIUM WHERE THE TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SOCCER FIELD.

THAT SOCCER FIELD DOESN'T DRAIN.

WELL, IT WAS DONE BY VOLUNTEERS IN THE NINETIES POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD REPLACE THAT IN TURF NOT GRASS AND ALLOW HAVE SOME MORE.

IT IS THE ABSOLUTE CRAZE RIGHT NOW NOBODY WILL WOULD BE DOING ANY PROJECTS WITH GRASS RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN VERY SMALL DISTRICTS VANCOUVER EVERGREEN.

IT JUST INCREASES THE PLAYABILITY, THE VIABILITY OF THE SITES IT'S UP FRONT COST BUT YOU COULD BE PLAYING A GAME TODAY ON A TURF FIELD.

SO I ALSO HAVE THAT VALUE PLUGGED IN AT PRAIRIE HIGH.

THERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT THERE.

I'M WORKING PRAIRIE HIGH.

WE'VE THE THE CHURCH, THE BAPTIST CHURCH SOFTBALL FIELD THAT WE'VE RENTED SINCE THE DAY WE'VE BEEN IN THAT BUILDING OR JV PLAYS THEY HAVE GIVEN US THIS SEASON.

BUT BY NEXT SEASON I HAVE TO HAVE A NEW FIELD BUILT SOMEWHERE.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AD, IT'S TIED ON THAT SITE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE IF THE BEST CONCEPT IS TO JUST GO BUILD A STANDALONE, STANDALONE TURF SOFTBALL FIELD OR IS IT TO GO BUILD A LARGER FIELD THE SIZE OF A SOCCER FIELD THAT ALSO HAS SOFTBALL LINES PAINTED ON IT? THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THOSE SITUATIONS AND ADDING A TURF FIELD IS PART TITLE NINE SITUATION IS THAT WE COULDN'T JUST, FOR INSTANCE, ADD A TURF SOFTBALL FIELD.

WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN EQUIVALENCY.

WE COULDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE EQUITY ISSUES BETWEEN SCHOOLS.

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YOU KNOW, WHO GETS WHO GETS A TURF THAT'S ON ANOTHER FIELD FIRST, IT'S ON ANOTHER SET OF PROJECTS.

SO THERE ARE ISSUES LIKE THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

I DON'T KNOW, AS I LOOK DOWN THE LIST, I SEE LOOKING AT A COVERED LAUREN COMES TO MIND BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DESPERATE IN IN IN SOME OF THEIR FIXES THE COVERED WALKWAYS ARE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THEY STRUGGLE WITH THE COVERED PLAY SHED WOULD BE A GOOD THING I SEE YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT THOSE ON THE LIST FOR POTENTIALLY 23-24.

YEAH THOSE ARE IF WE WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT THE CAPITAL HEAVY PROJECTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS I'VE MOVED OFF OF GLENWOOD AS WE'RE ALL AWARE.

WE KEEP WAITING TO PUT MONEY INTO THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT.

BUT IF WE DON'T REPLACE IT, THERE'S SOME THINGS I CAN DO.

JUST LIKE THIS CAMPUS.

YEAH. SO YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING ISSUE AND BOARD.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH.

I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS HAVE IN THE PAST, NOT NOW, I THINK KEVIN HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OVER THE LAST SIX, SEVEN YEARS TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO US IS THAT WE GET INTO THIS MINDSET WHERE WE CONTINUE TO WAIT FOR A BOND TO BE PASSED AND OUR THINKING IS, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO A BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS OUR BUILDINGS START TO SLIDE INTO.

I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME EQUITY ISSUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND AND TYPICALLY THERE ARE OLDER BUILDINGS.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT THIS BUILDING SLID INTO DISREPAIR WAS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT WHAT WE GOT.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE THINKING THAT NEEDS TO GO ALONG WITH A BOND BECAUSE WE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT [INAUDIBLE].

THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT PLEASANT VALLEY.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT GLENWOOD, BUT THOSE ARE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE OUR PRIMARY INTEREST.

IF WE WERE TO RUN A BOND, WHERE DO WE ,YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THAT COME.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TO TACKLE.

THERE'S ALSO THE IDEA THAT YOU SPENT, WHEN YOU PASS A BOND, IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS FOR YOU TO COMPLETE YOUR PROJECTS.

SO HOW MANY YEARS IS IS IS SPENDING $100,000 AT ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION FOR HOW LONG THAT THAT PROJECT LASTS AND WHEN IS IT OKAY THEN TO TO MOVE ON TO THAT NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS POTENTIALLY A REPLACEMENT? THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE'LL REALLY DO THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO COVER EVERYTHING I PRESENTED PREPARED FOR THIS, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF SOME OF MY THOUGHTS.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET TO THAT.

IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE CHOOSE TO REPLACE LAWN AND GLENWOOD OR DO WE DO WE PUT SOME MONEY IN LOCAL MONEY AND NOT PUT STATE MONEY INTO IT TO MAINTAIN OUR ELIGIBILITY? I'VE WALKED BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS MANY TIMES AND THEY'RE NICE SCHOOLS.

SO THAT'S PART OF IT. WHICH DO WE AND I'LL LEAD INTO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION HERE, BUT THAT'S LIKE ALL MY LAST SET OF SCENARIOS WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND PUT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE LOOKED AT WHAT IT WAS, THE 2018 BOND.

I GAVE IT TODAY'S NUMBERS.

SO THAT'LL THAT'S ALL JUST LAID OUT FOR YOU.

AND THEN WE WERE JUST TALKING, WELL, WHAT IF WE CONSIDER A CAPITAL PLAN AND INSTEAD OF REPLACING THOSE SCHOOLS, WHICH IS 60% VOTE AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD KNOW THREE OR FOUR TIMES, MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THAT'LL THAT'LL BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'RE REALLY ON DISCUSSION ONE HERE, ONE ON ONE.

WE CAN DIVE INTO SCENARIOS SOON, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE WEBSITE AND NOW I'D LIKE TO GIVE A HAND OVER TO MICHELLE SCOTT FOR HER PRESENTATION.. SO, MIC WORKING HERE?

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YOU CAN HEAR ME? OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO, AS AN INTRODUCTION, MY NAME IS MARK CROSSING.

I WORK WITH ESD 112, AND I'VE WORKED FOR QUITE A WHILE AS THE DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

SO LOOK AT ME AS KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF YOUR STAFF THAT WORKS FOR THE ESD.

ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THE PROGRAM TO HELP DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WITH THEIR FINANCE AND CAPITAL FACILITIES, PLANS AND BONDS.

SO I WORK AS AN EXTENSION STAFF, AS A FIDUCIARY FOR YOU TO KIND OF PROVIDE YOU ADVICE ON HOW TO ACCESS THE BOND MARKETS AND THEN MANAGE ANY BOND SALES THAT COME UP AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTED ON THAT SIDE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE WORKING TOMORROW.

TREVOR AND I ARE WORKING TOMORROW WITH EVERGREEN SCHOOL DISTRICT, SELLING SOME OF THEIR EXISTING BONDS AND MANAGING THAT PROCESS AND WORKING WITH ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS PRETTY MUCH, AND ALSO DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

TREVOR WORKS AS YOUR UNDERWRITER, AND I'LL LET YOU DESCRIBE TREVOR WHAT THAT ROLE IS.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. THANKS FOR HAVING US.

JUST REALLY EXCITED TO KIND OF LAY A FOUNDATION, BRING UP A COMMON LANGUAGE SO WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THROUGH THE FINANCE LENS ALSO AS YOU MOVE THROUGH TIME.

TREVOR CARLSON WITH PIPER SANDLER, WE ACT AS BOND UNDERWRITER AND MARK MENTIONED, ACCESSING THE MARKET FOR ULTIMATELY THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD ACCESS THE BOND MARKET THROUGH AN INVESTMENT BANK LIKE PIPER SANDLER.

SO REALLY FINDING THE BUYERS AND FINDING THOSE END USER HOMES FOR THOSE BONDS AFTER THE VOTER APPROVAL.

SO HAPPY TO BE HERE AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE PROJECT FUNDING FUNDING GOALS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST BONDS OF CAPITAL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICT'S TOTAL TAX RATE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS SEE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE LONG TERM PLANNING, SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE MONEY YOU NEED FOR THE PROJECTS.

AND WE ALSO THEN WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MANAGING THE BOND RATE ALONG WITH YOUR OPERATING LEVY RATE AND ANY CAPITAL LEVY RATE OR TECHNOLOGY.

CAPITAL AND TECHNOLOGY ARE KIND OF THE SAME TYPE OF VOTER APPROVAL.

BUT IF YOU DECIDE TO ADD A TECHNOLOGY LEVY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WANT TO LAYER THOSE IN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS TAX RATE PATTERN OVER TIME STABLE.

SO YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO VOTERS AND THEY'LL KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT OVER TIME.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OVERARCHING.

WHAT WHAT WE TRY TO WORK WITH HERE IS THAT WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES.

KEVIN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST SHOT AT IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE.

TAKE ON WILL REALLY DEPEND ON WHAT FUNDING SOURCE IS THE BEST TO MEET THOSE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY IS BETTER FUNDED THROUGH SHORT TERM CAPITAL LEVEES OR SHORT TERM BOND.

YOU DON'T WANT TO FINANCE COMPUTERS OVER 20 YEARS.

SO YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN YOUR HOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE BEST FUNDED BONDS VERSUS LEVIES.

THE FIRST ONE IS STATE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANCE.

AND THIS ONE'S REALLY IN KEVIN'S BALLPARK.

HE'LL WORK WITH A STUDY AND SURVEY GRANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY LOOK AT ALL THE FACILITIES AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOUR STATE FUNDING.

TYPICALLY, KEVIN DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY BITE OFF MUCH OF THE APPLE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO FINANCE THE PROJECTS.

THE STATE FUNDING IS FRANKLY QUITE INADEQUATE AND IT COMES DOWN TO LOCAL SHARE.

SO THEN WE TALK ABOUT LOCAL SHARE.

THAT'S WHAT WHAT ARE VOTERS APPROVING AND HOW CAN YOU FINANCE SOMETHING OVER TIME? THE FIRST ONE IS BONDS.

AND THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS BONDS BEING YOUR HOME MORTGAGE.

SO AGAIN, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF A BIGGER PROJECT THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO LAST FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU STRETCH THAT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT A BOND IS.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A LOAN THAT'S GOING TO COVER THAT AND YOU PAY BACK OVER OVER TIME.

NOW, THE BONDS THAT THE REASON THAT THEY WORK THE BEST IS YOU GET TO CASH UP FRONT SO YOU GET THE MONEY WHEN YOU NEED IT FOR THE PROJECT.

SO YOU GET IT NOW VERSUS A CAPITAL LEVY WE'LL TALK ABOUT.

BUT YOU COLLECT THAT OVER TIME.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE BEST ANALOGY TO BE THINK ABOUT YOUR THIS IS A BOND IS A HOME MORTGAGE.

I USE THE TERM TAXPAYER EQUITY IN HERE BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A 20 OR 30 YEAR BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS, FINANCING THAT OVER SOME LONGER PERIOD OF TIME MEANS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM THAT BUILDING OVER THAT TIME ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE COST OF IT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE TAXPAYER EQUITY PIECE.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, EVERGREEN SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THEIR INITIAL PROJECT, THEY LOOKED AT DOING THE CAPITAL LETTERS FOR ALL THEIR BUILDING AND PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDED THAT PEOPLE OVER SIX YEARS WOULD BE PAYING FOR BUILDINGS THAT PEOPLE OVER 30 YEARS ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM.

SO IT REALLY WASN'T VERY EQUITABLE FOR THE TAXPAYERS THAT LIVED THERE DURING THOSE SIX YEARS.

BUT IF IT'S SHORTER TERM PROJECT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.

SO THAT'S WHY THE BONDS WE CAN CONTROL WHAT THE COST ARE OVER TIME.

A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO YOUR HOME MORTGAGE THAT WE CAN KIND OF MAKE THE PAYMENTS MOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, NOT THE SAME.

EVERY YEAR THERE'S VOTER APPROVED BONDS AND THOSE ARE THE ONES TYPICALLY YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT YOU GO TO THE VOTERS AND IT'S A 60% VOTER APPROVAL REQUIREMENT.

THERE'S A VALIDATION REQUIREMENT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO TURN OUT AND PEOPLE HAVE TURNOUT.

BUT SINCE THE ALL MAIL IN BALLOTS, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM.

SO WE'VE GOT ENOUGH BALLOTS THAT THE VALIDATION HAS BEEN OC.

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LEGALLY, YOU CAN HAVE A 40 YEAR TERM ON A BOND, BUT THE MOST COMMON TERM IS 20, 21 YEARS FOR A SCHOOL BOND.

AND JUST AS YOUR HOME MORTGAGE, IT'S THE SAME TRADE OFF.

YOU PAY MORE INTEREST THE LONGER YOU FINANCE IT.

YOUR PAYMENT WOULD BE LOWER IF YOU FINANCED IT LONGER, BUT THE COST OF THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE MORE OVER TIME.

SO 20 KIND OF THINK OF THE 20, MAYBE 25 YEARS IS OUTSIDE IS WHAT YOU'D TYPICALLY BE FINANCING THE 60%.

YES IS CLEARLY THE HURDLE.

YOU KNOW THE LAST TIME I WAS WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT IN 2018 AND, YOU KNOW, 58 POINT PLUS PERCENT, YEAH, THAT WAS A HEARTBREAKER.

I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH TWO DISTRICTS OVER MY CAREER THAT FAILED BY ONE VOTE.

EVEN AFTER RECOUNTS ONE VOTE.

AND ONE OF THEM, MY FATHER IN LAW LIVES IN THAT DISTRICT.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE HE WHERE HE VOTED, AND HE WON'T TELL ME, BUT WE DON'T BRING IT UP OVER CHRISTMAS.

SO SO NON VOTED BONDS ARE REALLY GENERALLY FOR KIND OF SHORTER PROJECTS OR SMALLER PROJECTS.

YOU HAVE LESS CAPACITY TO STATE UNDER THE STATE LAW, YOU CAN'T BORROW AS MUCH UNDER NON VOTED BONDS.

THE REAL KEY THERE IS YOU NEED TO HAVE A REPAYMENT SOURCE BECAUSE A NON VOTER BOND DOESN'T HAVE A BOND TAX ASSOCIATED WITH IT LIKE A VOTER APPROVED BOND DOES.

SO YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY THE GENERAL FUND IS YOUR REPAYMENT SOURCE OR THE FUNDING SOURCE SUCH AS YOUR CAPITAL FACILITIES COLLECTIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE IMPACT FEES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TAXABLE PIECE OF THAT.

NOW, ONE THING YOU MIGHT SEE IS THAT IF IT'S REAL COMMON FOR DISTRICTS TO SAY, LISTEN, THEY PURCHASED SOME LAND, THEY DID A CAPITAL LEVY, THEY PAID FOR THAT THEY COLLECTED OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS PERIOD TIME SO WE COULD BORROW AGAINST THAT CAPITAL.

SO WE KNOW THAT MONEY IS GOING TO COME IN FROM THE CAPITAL.

YOU DON'T GET TO THE CAPITAL, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO NONVOTING BONDS REALLY AREN'T MEANT TO FINANCE LONG TERM PROJECTS.

YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

IN A WAY, IT CAN BE POLITICALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IF THE VOTERS SAY NO ON SOMETHING AND YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU AND YOU DO IT ANYWAY WITH A NON VOTER BOND, I'VE SEEN DISTRICTS COME INTO TURMOIL AND SAY, HEY, WE TOLD YOU NO ON THIS AND YOU DID IT ANYWAY.

IT MIGHT COME OUT IN YOUR NEXT OPERATING ELECTION, BUT YOU CAN'T DO NON VOTER BONDS.

I KIND OF THINK OF IT AS A THIRD RAIL OF WASHINGTON SCHOOL FINANCE.

JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO PAY BACK END OF THE DAY CAPITAL PROJECTS LEVIES.

NOW THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LEVY TECHNOLOGY LEVY AND CAPITAL PROJECTS LEVY ARE REALLY THE SAME THING.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TURN DIFFERENTLY AND THEY'RE MEANT TO KIND OF COVER SHORTER TERM, SHORTER LIVED ASSETS TYPICALLY.

BUT THE MAIN BENEFIT IS THAT ONLY REQUIRES A 50% VOTER APPROVAL.

AND SO WE SEE DISTRICTS TURNING MORE TO THAT VERSUS BONDS FOR PROJECTS THAT THEY CAN FUND.

THE DOWNSIDE WITH THE CAPITAL LEVY IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS UNTIL THE TAX TAXES ARE COLLECTED.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN JUST KIND OF THREW OUT A SCENARIO, WHAT WOULD A $50 MILLION CAPITAL? AND I'M PROBABLY JUMPING AHEAD OF YOU HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE ABACUS TO IT HERE TODAY AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO COLLECT PROBABLY SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THE FIRST YEAR, 8 MILLION, THE SECOND YEAR, IT'D BE ABOUT $0.44 PER THOUSAND.

BUT THAT MEANS THAT YOU REALLY THE FIRST YEAR YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO $8 MILLION FOR THE PROJECTS OR SEVEN HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'D BE A SIX YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD TO DO THOSE THINGS.

IF YOU CHOSE TO SAY, DO $12 MILLION THE FIRST YEAR, YOU COULD DO NON-VOTING DEBT TO FUND THOSE COLLECTIONS AND HAVE THE REPAYMENT BE THE SOURCE, THE SOURCE BEING LEVY COLLECTIONS WHEN THEY COME IN.

THE ONE CAVEAT IS YOU CAN'T USE LEVY DOLLARS TO PAY ANY INTEREST ON NON VOTER DEBT, SO THAT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF A SIDE SIDE ISSUE.

BUT SO THINK ABOUT THE CAPITAL LEVY AS A AS AN OPTION FOR IF YOU DECIDE BONDS AREN'T REALLY GOING TO FIT YOUR NEEDS AND YOU COULD STRETCH THE CONSTRUCTION OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, CAPITAL LEVY MAY WORK, BUT MOST DISTRICTS USE THEM FOR TECHNOLOGY, SO THEY KEEP A TECHNOLOGY LEVY IN PLACE, KIND OF CONTINUALLY ROLL IT BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T LAST MORE THAN SIX YEARS TYPICALLY.

AND SO IT'S A GOOD FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.

BUT AGAIN, AT 50% VOTER APPROVAL REQUIREMENT IS WHAT'S MADE IT ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE GET THAT THAT PASS MUCH MORE EASILY.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF DEBT CAPACITY AND LEGAL DEBT CAPACITY AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH YOUR WITH YOUR FUNDING.

GREAT. THANK YOU. MARK, MOVE OVER TO THE SCREEN SO I CAN SEE THE NUMBERS WITHOUT HAVING TO CRANK ALL THE WAY BACKWARDS.

AS MARK MENTIONED, 5% IS THE STATUTORY MAXIMUM FOR ALL OF THE DEBT THAT CAN BE OUTSTANDING FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE AT PLAY HERE.

NUMBER ONE, INCREASES AN ASSESSED VALUE, DERIVE THAT NUMBER HIGHER.

AND THEN AS YOU PAY OFF DEBT, RIGHT, THAT NUMBER BECOMES GREATER.

SO FROM A KIND OF A MATRIX PERSPECTIVE OR CALCULATION PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT NOW IN CALENDAR 22, ASSESSED VALUE, 13.7 BILLION 5% OF THAT NUMBER.

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TRACKED OUT THE DEBT THAT'S ON THE BOOKS NOW.

WE'VE 672 MILLION ARE GOING TO JUMP IN AHEAD OF MYSELF IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

BUT WE'RE SEEING A MASSIVE ASSESSED VALUE GROWTH FOR YOUR DISTRICT AND NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS AND A LOT OF DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

SO AROUND A 21% NUMBER THAT IS PRELIMINARY, IT WILL BE CLOSE, BUT IT WON'T BE EXACT.

SO WITH THAT NUMBER, RIGHT, THAT DROPS DOWN AT 5% TO NORTH OF 800 MILLION.

SO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEBT CAPACITY, MUCH LARGER THAN A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLE SCENARIOS THAT WILL SHOW TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

GREAT. THANK YOU, MARK.

SO FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE GRAPHIC HERE THAT I LIKE TO SEE THE COMPOSITION OF HOW THAT CHANGES OVER TIME.

IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

AND THAT 21% INCREASE GOING FORWARD.

WE'VE MODELED AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE, 4% ASSESSED VALUE GROWTH RATE.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IS THIS TOP BULLET POINT.

THE DISTRICT'S ASSESSED VALUE HAS GROWN AT AN AVERAGE RATE OF NINE AND ONE HALF PERCENT OVER THE LAST DECADE.

SO BASICALLY THAT'S KIND OF CUT THAT IN HALF, SHAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OFF TO HOPEFULLY BE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE GOING FORWARD.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT RIGHT AS FAR AS TAX RATES.

TREVOR, IF I MIGHT, THE OTHER REASON WE USE THAT 4% GROWTH, AND THAT IS IF YOU THINK YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER, RIGHT, IN THE DISTRICT, THE 4% REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE HAVING YOUR PAYMENTS GROW BY 4% OVER TIME.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TWO OR 3% OF THAT BE FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THIS STEADY GROWTH.

SO IT'S A WAY TO KEEP THEIR TAX BILLS, TAX COST, BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME OVER TIME, MAYBE ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION HERE OR THERE.

SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO THINK OUR ASSESSED VALUE TO GROW AND DO THESE PROJECTIONS AT NINE AND A HALF OR 10%, WELL THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL YOUR PAYMENTS TO GROW AT NINE OR 10% AND YOUR TAX BILLS WOULD GO UP NINE OR 10% A YEAR.

MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WANT THAT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THE 4% OF ALL.

SLIDE, PLEASE.

INTEREST RATES, RIGHT.

AS MARK MENTIONED, THINK OF BONDS AS MAYBE A LARGE MORTGAGE INTEREST RATES DRAMATIC DRIVER IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PLANNING.

LONG TERM GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF TAX EXEMPT MUNICIPAL BONDS, SKY HIGH BORROWING COSTS IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, WE'VE SEEN INTEREST RATES MOVE UP DRAMATICALLY, SPECIFICALLY THIS CALENDAR YEAR AS INFLATION HAS REALLY TAKEN ROOT IN OUR ECONOMY AND AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS TRIED TO COMBAT THAT BY INCREASING INTEREST RATES.

SO ALL TIME LOWS IN 20 2021, AND WE'VE KIND OF HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HOCKEY STICK REBOUND IN THOSE BORROWING COSTS. WE BUILD THAT INTO OUR MODEL, WE ADD SOME CONTINGENCY AND I'LL HAVE MARK TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND HAPPY TO IF YOU NEED TO INTERJECT AND ASK QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO FIELD THOSE AS WE AS WE MOVE THROUGH SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END.

I THINK ONE REAL TAKEAWAY FROM THE SLIDE IS HAVE RATES HAVE GONE UP.

WE ALL HEAR IT ON THE NEWS, BUT WE'RE STILL RELATIVELY LOW RELATIVE TO HISTORY.

SO IT'S STILL A GOOD TIME TO BE BORROWING MONEY TO FINANCE PROJECTS.

I LOOK AT THESE PATTERNS AND I'VE BEEN IN THE BOND MARKET FOR A LONG TIME.

WE'VE BEEN PROJECTING INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO GO UP EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.

THIS MIGHT BE THE YEAR THAT IT HAPPENS.

BUT IF I LOOK AT THESE SPIKES UP, THESE RAPID SPIKES TYPICALLY DON'T LAST.

AND I KNOW, LIKE THE ECONOMIST MAGAZINE, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, LONGER TERM RATES ARE DESTINED TO COME BACK LOWER OVER TIME.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO? BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE KIND OF PREPARED.

WE'VE BUILT IN SOME CONTINGENCY, AS TREVOR SAID, TO THESE RATES AND ADDED TO WHAT CURRENT RATES ARE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX RATES FOR BONDS.

THANK YOU. SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO A COUPLE OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

SAY WHAT WOULD $0.50 PER THOUSAND COSTS A DOLLAR PER THOUSAND, A DOLLAR 50.

AND SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IT SAID, WELL, THAT WOULD BE FUNDING $150 MILLION FOR NOVEMBER 2023 ELECTION.

THAT'S CURRENTLY THE THINKING $300 MILLION AND $450 MILLION.

NOW, NONE OF THESE NUMBERS ARE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY'S THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

BUT AS KEVIN SAID, THIS IS REALLY AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

HE'LL HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS.

YOU'LL NARROW THAT DOWN BASED ON THE PRIORITY OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL DETERMINE WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT BEST MATCHED THAT TYPE OF PROJECT LIST AND AND COSTS.

AND THEN IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS AND WHAT YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER AND HOPEFULLY YOU THINK THEY WILL SUPPORT AND THEN YOU TAKE AN ACTION ON THAT.

SO THIS IS REALLY JUST THE FIRST STEP IN THAT.

BUT AS TREVOR MENTIONED, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE ADDING 1% TO TODAY'S INTEREST RATES FOR THESE.

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PROJECTIONS AND THE BOND PAYMENTS ASSESSED VALUE GROWTH 4% OVER TIME.

LONG TERM MENTIONED THAT AS WELL.

WE TYPICALLY WOULD SELL A LARGER BOND AUTHORIZATION LIKE THIS OVER MULTIPLE SALES.

YOU WOULDN'T SELL IT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE YOU'D PAY INTEREST OVER TIME WHEN YOUR CONSTRUCTION TAKES A WHILE.

SO WE'D SELL THE BONDS AS NEEDED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO SUMMARY OF THAT IS THE $150 MILLION AUTHORIZATION.

IF YOU GET DOWN THE BOTTOM LINE, THERE WOULD BE ABOUT $0.50 PER 1000.

THEN KIND OF RATABLY UP $300 MILLION OR $450 MILLION, $50.

THESE ARE APPROXIMATE NUMBERS.

NOW, IF YOU SAID WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE COULD GET FOR $0.50 PER 1000, IT MIGHT BE 155 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM NOW FOR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS IS A GOOD KIND OF WAY TO GET YOUR ARMS AROUND THE NUMBERS.

DO BONDS, DOES THE TAX RATE FOR BONDS, IS IT AS AS DOES IT FLUCTUATE LIKE A LEVY DOES? I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, WE PASSED WE PASSED THE LEVY AT $1.95.

NOW BECAUSE OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF OUR DISTRICT, THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN TO A DOLLAR 72 IN THE SPAN OF A SINGLE YEAR.

DOES THAT HAPPEN WITH BONDS AS WELL, OR IS IT STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY? IT DOES. IT DOES HAPPEN THAT THE RATES HAVE COME DOWN OVER TIME, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING LIKE A 4% GROWTH AGAIN IN THE BOND SIDE.

WELL, IF YOUR DISTRICT GREW AT 10%, WHAT HAPPENS? JUST THE WAY THE MATH WORKS IS THE TAX RATE WILL GO DOWN.

OTHERWISE YOU'D BE HAVING YOUR TAXES GO UP.

SO SO A 50%, IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE A 50% BOND AND WE SAW GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT, MORE HOUSES COMING IN AND THAT BECOMES SPLIT BETWEEN MORE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO THEN THE TAX RATE DECREASES.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO IS IT IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT YOU'D SEE IF YOU'RE IN A IF YOU'RE IN AN AREA WHERE GROWTH IS CONSIDERABLE, YOU WOULD SEE A DIP IN THAT TYPICALLY, YES, THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

OKAY. I LIKE SEEING THESE THINGS GRAPHICALLY FOR ME, KIND OF A SHOW WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE THE GREEN BARS HERE ARE YOUR OPERATING LEVIES AND THAT ASSUMES THAT THE OPERATING LEVY KIND OF CONTINUES ON AFTER THE CURRENT AUTHORIZATION AT THE SAME TAX RATE.

BUT AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL TAX PACKAGE.

SO IF YOU SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO BRING THE OPERATING LEVY BACK UP AND WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE STATE PER PUPIL LIDS OR SOMETHING, YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP TO THE 250 LEAD.

WELL, THAT'LL CHANGE THIS PLAN.

MAYBE WE CHANGE HOW THE BONDS ARE STRUCTURED OR IF YOU WANT TO ADD IN A TECHNOLOGY LEVY AND KIND OF SCRAPE THAT OUT OF THE THE COST OF GENERAL FUND, WE'D ADD THAT IN SO THAT WE KIND OF MODEL THESE TAX RATES.

THE BONDS ARE REALLY WHAT WE HAVE THE MOST CONTROL OVER BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY BOND COMPARED TO MORTGAGE.

WE CAN DECIDE WHAT YOUR PAYMENT SHOULD BE EACH YEAR FOR THAT 20 YEARS.

WITHIN SOME CONSTRAINTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING OFF THE BONDS IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FASHION AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

BUT YOU DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY AROUND THAT.

BUT YOU'LL SEE THESE EXISTING BONDS ARE THE DARK BLUE.

THEY GO AWAY AFTER 2023.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE ROOM FOR SOME NEW FUNDING AUTHORIZATION TO COME INTO PLAY THAT WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY A NOVEMBER 2023 ELECTION.

AND OUR CURRENT BOND RATE ARE OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE PAYING APPROXIMATELY $0.50, $0.52.

WE'RE PROJECTING NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE $0.44, 44,000.

I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS BACK IN THERE, BUT WITH THAT BIG GROWTH, IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN.

IT COULD EVEN BE LOWER. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $0.44 PER THOUSAND.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE IT AT $150.

MILLION AUTHORIZATION KEEPS THE TAX RATES OVER TIME ABOUT SAME AS THEY'D BE.

SO THAT COMPARES TO THE CAPITAL PIECE.

AS I'VE SAID, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THAT AMOUNT WOULD GET YOU ABOUT $50 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A GOOD KIND OF COMPARISON I THINK WITHIN SO THE CAPITAL LEVY, AGAIN, YOU COLLECT OVER SIX YEARS THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER SIX YEARS, YOU'RE LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST ASSOCIATED WITH IT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT A 44 CENT PER 1000 TAX RATE.

SO WHEREAS THE BOND AT 150 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS, WE'LL GET YOU ABOUT $0.50 PER 1000.

SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. THE QUESTION.

I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU. YEAH, I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF RUN THROUGH THESE NUMBERS QUICKLY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU COULD YOU COULD DO A CAPITAL LEVY, BUT YOU WON'T HAVE THE MONEY UP FRONT TO DO THE PROJECTS, AND IT'D BE ABOUT THE SAME COST AS $150 MILLION BOND AUTHORIZATION.

RIGHT. SO MY MIND THAT KIND OF COMES DOWN TO DO YOU THINK YOU GET 60% APPROVAL, RIGHT.

IF YOU COULD DO THAT, YOU CAN DO $150 WORTH OF PROJECTS.

IF YOU CAN ONLY GET 50% APPROVAL, WELL, MAYBE YOU'RE STUCK WITH $50 MILLION.

CAN YOU OVER EIGHT YEARS, CAN YOU PAY BACK A BOND EARLIER THAN 20 YEARS OR IS IT 20 YEARS? NO, NO, YOU CAN DEFINITELY PAY IT BACK EARLIER, BUT MOST DISTRICTS WOULDN'T DO THAT.

BUT I WORKED WITH BOTH, WORKED LIKE LINDEN SCHOOL DISTRICT, DUTCH COMMUNITY, VERY REALLY CONSERVATIVE.

WE DON'T LIKE DEBT AT ALL.

THEY STRUCTURED ALL THEIR BONDS AS TEN YEAR BONDS BACK IN THE DAY, BUT THEIR TAXES WERE HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT RIGHT.

SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE BOTTOM LINE.

IT'S JUST AS YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO ALL PAY OUR HOMES OVER 15 YEARS VERSUS 30.

SOMETIMES THAT ISN'T REALLY.

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IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WELL. NOW, ONCE THE BONDS ARE SOLD, THEY'RE KIND OF OUT THERE AND YOU CAN'T PAY THEM OFF EARLY.

MAYBE YOU SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF A CAPITAL? SIX YEARS. SIX YEARS? THAT'S A MAXIMUM. SO YOU SEE, YOU SAID THAT I JUST YOU'LL SEE DISTRICTS DO FOR YEARS FOR TECHNOLOGY.

KIND OF THEY HAVE A LOT OF DISTRICTS HAVE A STRATEGY OF WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO RENEW THEIR OPERATING LEVY AND TECHNOLOGY LEVY.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL BE ON THE SAME BALLOT MAYBE AND A BOND OR BE ON A SEPARATE BALLOT FOR DIFFERENT TIMING.

SO THAT'S BEYOND ME.

KIND OF THE STRATEGY OF I'LL PUT THAT, MICHELLE, IS WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WIN? ARE YOU GOING TO GO VOTERS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS? SO. SO THIS IS THE GRAPH OF THE $150 MILLION AUTHORIZATION.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE YELLOW JUST GROWS AS YOU ADD ON MORE BONDS AND BRING THEM UP HIGHER.

AND YOU CAN YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS IN THE BACK IN THE APPENDIX.

THERE'S SOME ALL THE NUMBERS BEHIND THIS THAT ARE TOO SMALL TO PUT ON THE SCREEN WHERE THE MATH IS.

YOU TAKE THE AMOUNT YOU'RE GOING TO LEVY AND DOLLARS YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE VALUE OF THE DISTRICT, AND THAT GIVES YOU THE TAX RATE IN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR THE OPERATING LEVY, THE BONDS AND TECHNOLOGY LEVY.

SO AGAIN, WE THINK ABOUT IF THERE IS A STRATEGY FOR SCRAPING OUT TECHNOLOGY, FOR EXAMPLE, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE VOTED ITEM AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE BOND ISSUE. WE ADD THAT INTO THE GRAPH IS A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT COLOR BAR.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOUR DISTRICT FINANCE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MATCHING THE NEEDS AND THE BEST TIMING AND THE BEST FIT ON THE FINANCING FOR THE TYPES OF PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

WE TALKED KIND OF TOUCH ON THE BOND PLANNING NOW.

WE'VE THROWN OUT THE TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL LEVEES AS WELL.

MOST OF THESE BULLETS AND TIME FRAMES ARE ABOUT THE SAME FOR BONDS VERSUS CAPITAL LEVEES.

SO TREVOR CAN TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU STAND AND.

YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU.

YEAH. AND REALLY JUST SOME INFORMATIONAL ITEMS FOR YOU TO UTILIZE.

THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR YOU TO TO LOOK AT LATER.

AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS LATER, PLEASE FILTER THEM THROUGH STAFF WE'RE HAPPY TO TO COME BACK WRITE.

IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, YOU MIGHT THINK OF THAT CRAZY QUESTION AS YOU'RE DRIVING TO WORK THE NEXT DAY.

BUT JUST FROM A COMPARABLE TAX RATE PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN CLARK AND COWLITZ COUNTY AND RANKED THEM FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST TAX RATE.

MIGHT NOT BE THE THE MOST FAIR WAY TO COMPARE.

BUT THESE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS.

JUST TO GIVE YOURSELF A REFERENCE POINT, RIGHT? MASSIVE DIFFERENCES IN ASSESSED VALUE BETWEEN WOODLAND AND YOURSELF.

SO AGAIN, MAYBE NOT APPLES TO APPLES, BUT JUST SO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN CASE YOU ARE ASKED FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

BUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THERE TOO, IS THE THE BOND RATES THAT WERE LISTED, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE BOND RATES AND NOT EVEN THE TOTAL TAX, THERE'S SOME HEFTY BONDS.

YES, QUITE A FEW IN THE I WOULD SAY DOLLAR 50 TO $2 RANGE.

YEAH. YEAH.

AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT, I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE I SEE TOWARDS THE TOP, THEY'RE LOOKING AT NEW AUTHORIZATION REQUESTS AS WELL COMING UP.

YEAH, DEFINITELY DYNAMIC.

IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR.

AND THEN PAGE 15, WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON WHERE SIMILAR SIZED FROM AN ASSESSED VALUE PERSPECTIVE, WE COULD RUN THIS BASED ON ENROLLMENT, BUT ACROSS THE STATE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A SIMILAR ASSESSED VALUE RANKED FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST, AND ON THIS LIST, BETHEL IS THE WINNER OF THE AT THE CURRENT TIME.

AND THEY I THINK THEY WENT FIVE OR SIX TIMES FOR THEIR BOND AUTHORIZATION.

TOM SIEGEL I WORKED WITH TOM FOR QUITE A WHILE AND JUST KEPT GOING BACK AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND DIDN'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT AND JUST KEPT HAMMERING IT AND WORKED AND THEY GOT IT DONE, YOU KNOW? BUT YES, SO THEY DO HAVE A HIGH TAX RATE.

AND HE'S VERY PROUD OF THAT, THAT IT SHOWS A STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

AND THEN, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT TAX RATE WILL DECLINE OVER TIME FROM WHAT WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD TO EXPECT, IT'LL END UP BEING QUITE A BIT LESS ON A TAX RATE PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THE OVERALL PIECE, THEIR ELECTION HISTORY FROM THE BOND PERSPECTIVE FOR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT GOING BACK TO THE EARLY NINETIES.

AGAIN, JUST DATA FOR YOUR REFERENCE, I'LL LET TREVOR HAVE THE BAT.

SO WE'VE WE'VE SEEN YES, WE'VE EXPERIENCED THE CHALLENGES TOGETHER.

YES, YES. YEAH, YEAH.

SO I'LL JUMP BACK IN KIND OF JUST AS A TIMELINE.

MICHELLE HAS TO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER SOME THIS IS A ROUGH OUTLINE OF WHAT YOU'D BE DOING.

THE REAL MESSAGE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS GRAPHIC IS YOU DO HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW TO GET SOMETHING ON NOVEMBER 23 BALLOT, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE DILIGENT WITH THAT TIME TO KEEP MAKING PROGRESS GOING FORWARD. YOU DON'T HAVE A TOO MUCH TIME TO DO IT.

IT TAKES IT TAKES A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF HAVING KEVIN VET THIS LIST COME TO YOU SAY, WHAT'S WHAT DO WE THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE? THEN WE PUT SOME NUMBERS AGAINST THAT TOO.

THE FINANCING USUALLY GOES BACK TO KEVIN'S TO THE WELL.

WE THINK IT'S A PROCESS TO DO THAT.

AND THEN ONCE YOU KIND OF GET THAT LIST DOWN, SO THAT'S THAT WHOLE DEFINED FACILITY NEEDS THEN THE BOND ISSUE PLANNING KIND OF PUTS YOU INTO THE FALL OF THIS YEAR,

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SPRING OF NEXT YEAR, DRAFTING AN ELECTION RESOLUTION TO BE SPRING, BECAUSE YOU'LL NOTE THAT FOR NOVEMBER ELECTION, THE FILING DEADLINE IS AUGUST 1ST.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP IN JULY.

AND IF YOU TAKE IT UP A RESOLUTION IN JULY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WANT TO HAVE THAT PRETTY WELL SET IN JUNE AND KIND OF WHERE ARE YOU GOING IN MAY AND GET THE COMMUNITY ON BOARD.

AND SO REALLY, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BEFORE THINGS START KIND OF HEATING UP QUITE A BIT.

BUT THERE'S A LOT HAS TO HAPPEN IN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD OF TIME ON THE ON THE DEFINITION OF THE NEEDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO COVER THIS, BUT IS THERE A BETTER TIME TO RUN, HISTORICALLY SPEAKING? IS THERE A BETTER IS THERE ONE OF THOSE DATES THERE? YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR FEBRUARY OR APRIL.

YOU'RE AUGUST AND YOU'RE IN NOVEMBER.

YEAH. TREVOR'S FIRM DOES A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS, AND WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN HERE.

WE HAVE WE COULD SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE.

YEAH. GOING BACK TO THE EARLY NINETIES, HALF OF ANY BOND ON THE BALLOT HAS PASSED IN FEBRUARY, ABOUT A THIRD IN APRIL, AUGUST. THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN A HANDFUL OF TRIES.

PLEASE DON'T GO IN AUGUST.

WE USUALLY DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER, BUT THAT IS CLOSER TO A WRONG ANSWER THAN A RIGHT ANSWER.

NOVEMBER ABOUT A THIRD PASS.

SO I THINK TRADITIONALLY DENNY THE FEBRUARY THAT FEBRUARY TIME FRAME IS WHEN MOST SCHOOLS GO OUT FOR THOSE FEBRUARY FOR US WOULD BE PRIOR TO THE TAX.

COMING OUT SO WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED A REPLACEMENT.

CORRECT? YES.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT VOTE'S ALWAYS AROUND RIGHT NOW.

THANKSGIVING, VALENTINE'S DAY ISH.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THERE.

AND THEN TAXES USUALLY DON'T COME OUT UNTIL RIGHT AROUND THAT SAME TIME.

RIGHT? RIGHT. IF YOU COULD DO IT IN FEBRUARY 23, THAT'D BE AWESOME, BECAUSE THEN YOUR TAXES WON'T GO AWAY IF YOU DO IT IN FEBRUARY 24.

THE TAX RATES HAVE ALREADY DROPPED TO ZERO BECAUSE ALL YOUR BONDS ARE ALREADY OUTSTANDING.

SO FEBRUARY 23, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT, RIGHT? WELL, LET'S TAKE OUR OH, LET'S NOT TAKE THAT ONE RIGHT OFF THE TABLE.

LET'S TRY IT. MARK. NO.

SO REALLY, THE THE NOVEMBER IS PROBABLY YOUR BEST SHOT TO KEEP THE TAX RATE UP THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT ELECTION STRATEGY TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD COME BACK IN FEBRUARY IF SOMETHING DOESN'T PASS IN NOVEMBER AND TURN AROUND AND CHANGE THE PLAN AND KIND OF SEE WHAT THE RESULT IS GOING TO BE.

SO THERE'S SOME THINKING AROUND THAT THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SHARPER MINDS THAN MINE THAT UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND SOME WILL DEPEND ON.

TREVOR AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF LARGE AUTHORIZATIONS ON NOVEMBER BALLOT THIS YEAR, $1.2 BILLION OF BONDS.

AND THEY'VE GOT A PLAN A AND A PLAN B, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR HIP POCKET OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION PRETTY QUICKLY.

RIGHT. BASED ON WHAT THE VOTER RESULTS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO BUT THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE A A NOVEMBER BALLOT BECAUSE THEY THINK IT ACTUALLY WORKS WELL FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS.

AND SO BUT, YES, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF, SAY, NOVEMBER WASN'T WORKING.

YOU COULD GO IN FEBRUARY AND STILL DESCRIBE THAT AS HERE'S WHAT YOUR COST HAVE BEEN TO THIS POINT.

BUT IN 2024, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE A BIG ZERO ON THEIR ON THEIR COSTS IS THAT IT ALWAYS GETS HARDER TO HAVE SOMETHING BEING THE INCREASE, EVEN IF IT WAS SOMETHING SO.

SORRY TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE BARS, BUT YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR INFORMATION.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE FACILITIES PLANNING AND KIND OF WORKING REALLY HEAVILY ON THAT.

AND THEN THE MAY-JUNE TIME FRAME IS WHEN YOU'RE FINALIZING YOUR PROJECT LIST AND WHAT YOU THINK YOU WANT TO SUPPORT AND ARE THE BEST PRIORITIES.

BASED ON THAT, KEVIN TELLS YOU WHAT YOU THINK THE VOTERS WOULD WANT TO APPROVE.

AND THEN THE CONSIDERATION WE TALKED TO OF THE ELECTION RESOLUTION, AND THAT REALLY AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY TO PLACE A BALLOT MEASURE ON THE BALLOT.

AND THAT'S WRITTEN BY YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL, BEN FOSTER PEPPER, JIM MCNEILL, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN HIS NAME AND OVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND IT'S A VERY TECHNICAL DOCUMENT, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM REALLY CLOSELY, PRETTY EARLY ON IN THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS DONE AS WELL.

AND THERE'S THE EXPLANATORY STATEMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT BALLOT MEASURE.

AND YOU POINT TO PRO AND CON COMMITTEE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS YOU HAVE TO DO TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL IS REALLY GOOD AT, KIND OF WORKING WITH MICHELLE AND DANNY TO OUTLINE ALL OF THOSE STEPS AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN AND WHAT WHAT PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT YOUR MAJOR ACTION WOULD BE THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE ELECTION RESOLUTION, APPOINTING THE PRO CON COMMITTEE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

THEY ALL HAVE TO HAPPEN KIND OF IN THE SUMMER TIME FRAME.

SO AUGUST ONE FILING DEADLINE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN REALLY THE THE BALLOTS WERE MAILED OUT IN OCTOBER FOR NOVEMBER ELECTION.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMING ON A NOVEMBER ELECTION, SAY THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION.

YOU AS A BOARD TYPICALLY CERTIFY YOUR COLLECTION AMOUNTS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR OPERATING LEVY AND BOND LEVY IN NOVEMBER TO GET THEM TO THE EAST AND THE COUNTY BY DECEMBER TO FILE IT.

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WELL, THE ELECTION RESULT IS NOVEMBER 28, SO THERE'S A QUICK TURNAROUND ON THAT AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH AN ELECTION.

AND THAT'S WORKING WITH US IN THE LEGAL COUNCIL.

SO THOSE DISTRICTS THAT I MENTIONED ARE ON THIS NOVEMBER'S BALLOT.

THEY HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS SITTING THERE AND THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONE THEY'RE GOING TO THE BOARD'S GOING TO TAKE UP.

IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT HAPPENS ON NOVEMBER 28TH OF THIS YEAR, BUT THAT WE'RE WE'RE USED TO DEALING WITH IT.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE ON OUR END HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT ALL THE DUCKS IN A ROW REALLY CAREFULLY AT THAT TIME.

SO AGAIN, TO KIND OF FINALIZE THIS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KIND OF REITERATE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LOOKING AT THE PROJECT SCOPE AND GETTING A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT AND.

I'M THINKING WHAT HE'S THINKING.

IT MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THE PROJECT COST.

WHICH ARE. THAT'S.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE PROJECTING WHAT PROJECT COSTS ARE GOING TO BE ANY MORE THAN WANT TO BE PROJECTING WHAT INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE. SO HE'S GOT THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN LOOKING AT WHEN YOU NEED THE MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CASH FLOW, THAT'S KIND OF WOULD BE A LOT OF THE DETERMINING FACTOR BETWEEN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS VERSUS BONDS IN THAT ONE. AND THEN IF WE'RE DOING BONDS, KIND OF WHEN WE'D NEED TO SELL THE BONDS AND FACTOR THAT INTO THE FINANCING PLAN WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF LOOKED AT THIS NOVEMBER.

SO DETERMINE WHICH ELECTION DATE TO TARGET.

WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT NOW WORKING TOWARDS NOVEMBER 23 THREE, BUT THAT'S STILL YOUR DECISION.

AND THEN WORK WITH THE BOND COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED, TO GET THE GET LEGALLY DONE SO YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT.

IT TAKES A WHILE. THE BIG THING IS COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AT SOME POINT YOU NEED TO GET PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS IS.

AND I KNOW MICHELLE'S ALREADY LOOKED AT SOME OPTIONS AND TALK TO ANY ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP WITH THAT AS A DISTRICT SIDE, OF COURSE.

AND WE'RE PART OF THE DISTRICT STAFF.

ESSENTIALLY, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION, NOT PROS AND CONS, BUT FACTUAL INFORMATION OF WHAT WE THINK THE COST WOULD BE IN THE PLAN TO BE GOING FORWARD AND THEN GET THE ELECTION RESOLUTION THAT REALLY THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS FRANKLY THE HARD PART.

I THINK IT IS. AND WE UNDERSTAND BONDS AND WE THINK IT'S PRETTY EASY.

SO WE'VE GOT THIS PART.

IF YOU CAN DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND GET THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT, WE CAN GET YOU THE MONEY.

THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY I SEE KIND OF THE SHORT, SHORT VERSION OF IT.

SO WE CAN HANDLE THE PROCESSES OF IT.

IT'S REALLY YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU THINK IS IN THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST.

AND THEN WE WORK WITH YOU IN THE STAFF AND TO DELIVER ON THAT, ON THAT PLAN ALL THE TIME.

SO AGAIN, WE KIND OF TALKED FAST AND COVERED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I NOTICE THAT LEAST.

CAN YOU CAN YOU KEEP GOING FURTHER ON THE SLIDE? YEAH. I NOTICE YOU PROVIDED THE PROJECTED TAX RATE.

SO IS THIS RIGHT TO ASSUME I MEAN, I SEE THAT YOU ASSUMED THE 4% GROWTH RATE.

AND IF THE IF THAT IF THAT WENT UP, THEN THAT TAX RATE WOULD GO DOWN.

RIGHT? BECAUSE THESE ONCE THE BONDS ARE SOLD, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL ASSUMPTIONS.

BUT IF THIS IS REAL LIFE, LET'S PRETEND THIS IS REAL LIFE.

IN 24 AND 25, THOSE PAYMENTS ARE LOCKED IN THEIR FIXED INTEREST RATE DEBT.

WE KNOW WHAT THE OBLIGATION IS GOING FORWARD.

AND IF THAT'S FIXED AND THE ASSESSED VALUE COMES IN AT HIGHER THAN 4%, MORE RAPID THAN 4%, THEN YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THEN IT GOES DOWN.

THEN WE SEE A TRAIL DOWN IN THE TAX RATE.

AND I APPRECIATED THAT YOU PUT THE PROJECTED TAX RATES FOR 150, FOR 304 FOR 50.

SO THANK YOU. YEAH.

SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE MATH BEHIND THOSE GRAPHS.

YEAH, I KNOW VERY PEOPLE'S EYES ROLL OVER WHEN I START, WHEN I PULL UP A SPREADSHEET, IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

MUCH APPRECIATED. GOOD.

KEV, DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO PULL UP THAT OTHER STUFF AND SHOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM A PRICE PERSPECTIVE, WHATEVER WE THINK WE WANT TO DO. HOW DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? LET'S AT LEAST CAN YOU OPEN UP THE THE SHEET THAT TALKS ABOUT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? YEAH. THAT ONE FIRST.

YEAH. THE FULL ONE.

YEAH. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDE.

GREAT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PARTNERSHIP.

IF YOU THINK OF THE BEST QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING HOME TOMORROW, MAKE SURE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YOU DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

I WAS STILL JUGGLING THAT CAPITAL VERSUS BOND THING, BUT I THINK I GOT IT.

SO IS THAT THE TOP PLACE? WHAT? DO YOU STICK DOWN ON THE BOTTOM PAGE IN THE SUMMARY? NOBODY NEEDS TO CLICK ON THAT THING OR LEARN NOTES, BUT THERE YOU GO.

THIS. SO BASICALLY.

OH, YES. SO YOU CAN SEE THE 2018 BOND AMOUNTS.

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IT WAS THESE SCHOOLS, THESE REPLACEMENTS, THESE EXACT SAME PROJECTS.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS AS WELL THAT WE PUT ON THERE.

BUT FOR THE MAIN PROJECTS, THE MAIN GUTS OF THE 2018 BOND, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE WE'VE GONE FROM 225 UP TO 2.96 FOR A LOCAL SHARE.

STATE MATCHES CAME UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND WHAT HE WAS REFERRING TO ON THE STATE MATCH NOT REALLY DOING A LOT.

YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE IT'S IT'S A FIFTH IT'S 20% OF THE OVERALL.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ELIGIBILITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE STATE SHARE ON THE NEW K CAMPUS.

THAT WAS ALL DONE AT ZERO ELIGIBILITY AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ARE -24,000 OR OVER HOUSED CURRENTLY.

SO WE HAVE ZERO ELIGIBILITY RIGHT NOW TO BUILD ANY ANY NEW STRUCTURES WE CAN WE CAN BUILD WHAT'S CALLED NEW AND LOO WHICH THE FIRST ONES THE FIRST THREE GLEN WOODLAWN NEW AND LOO.

THE STATE ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RENOVATE AN OLD BUILDING.

SO INSTEAD OF RENOVATING 1956 GLENWOOD, WE'D BUILD A NEW ONE.

TEAR IT DOWN. THERE IS STATE MATCH FOR THAT, BUT YOU CAN SEE SUBSTANTIALLY THE OUR LAST BOND.

THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BROKE OUT.

REALLY IT WAS IT WAS 5050 STATE MONEY, LOCAL WAS 50.

WE'RE AT 5050 THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS.

AND NOW YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT 20% OVERALL.

THE STATE DOESN'T MATCH A LOT OF THINGS.

AND THEIR AREA COST ALLOWANCE, I BELIEVE, IS $242 IN REAL WORLD IS BASED ON 550 TO 600.

SO THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR ADEQUATELY FUNDING CURRENT CURRENT COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION.

OUR BOND IN 2005 WAS WAS PRETTY AWESOME BECAUSE THE ACA WAS VERY SIMILAR AREA COST ALLOWANCE TO TO WHAT ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COST WAS.

SO THEY WERE MATCHING A LOT MORE PERCENTAGE WISE.

LIKE I SAY, WE DID A 100, 100 MILLION ENDED UP BEING 110.

I THINK ABOUT 55 MILLION WAS FROM THE STATE, 55 MILLION WAS FROM LOCAL TAXPAYERS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT SCENARIO CHANGES DRAMATICALLY, BUT ALSO WITH A HIGH WEIGHT OF NO ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT NEW K SO I WAS ASKED TO COMPARE 2018 TO 2023.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND, AND THAT'S MINUS, MINUS THE PER PROJECT.

YEAH, I DID NOT, I DID NOT INCLUDE THE PRAIRIE MINUS THE AL CAMPUS.

YES. AND THAT'S MINUS ALL OF THE OTHER SUPPLEMENTARY.

THOSE ARE THE SUPPLEMENTARY ONES.

THINGS THAT WERE ON THERE.

IT WAS LARGER. YEAH.

IT WOULD, YEAH. THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE, THIS WOULD BE MUCH LARGER.

AND IF YOU JUST I'M JUST DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE NEW K CAMPUS AT 122 MILLION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 170 MILLION ISH.

AND THAT'S JUST GLENWOOD, LAUREN AND PLEASANT VALLEY.

YES, RIGHT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S KNOW, THAT'S SOME OF THE CHALLENGE FOR US AS A BOARD.

YOU GUYS RECOGNIZE THAT THAT THOSE ARE PROBABLY OUR HIGHEST NEEDS ARE THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS AND CALL PLEASANT VALLEY IS ONE PROJECT BUT TWO SCHOOLS THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY OUR HIGHEST NEEDS NOT PROBABLY THEY ARE OUR HIGHEST NEEDS.

YET THEY FROM A FROM A GEOGRAPHIC STANDPOINT, THEY REPRESENT THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE DISTRICT AND A VERY A RELATIVELY SMALL PORTION OF THE OF THE DISTRICT.

SO AGAIN, SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES ARE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT 60%, YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT VOTERS FROM THE ENTIRETY OF THE DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO IN TERMS OF ENTICEMENT OR FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT VOTING FOR FOR THOSE PROJECTS WHEN THEIR PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY ISN'T GETTING ANYTHING? SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR US AS A BOARD.

YEAH, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE.

I THINK SOME OF THEM. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T ON HERE THAT I THINK ARE HIGH PRIORITY THAT THE BOARD HAS MENTIONED.

ONE IS TURF.

TURF FIELDS.

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ONE IS MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS FACILITIES, WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY INCLUDE TURF FIELDS IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS AND AND ACTIVITIES PROGRAM.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE WOULD NEED.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT.

BUT THEN THE OTHER IDEA THAT KEVIN CAME UP WITH IS THIS IDEA OF A $50 MILLION CAPITAL LEVY, WHICH COULD BE PASSED AT 50% AND PAID BACK OVER SIX YEARS.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS WHAT HE CAME UP.

CAN YOU DROP TO THIS? I JUST WANT TO GO TO THE SUMMARY FIRST.

JUST DROP DOWN THERE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL WHAT WE'RE SPENT, WHAT WE WOULD BE.

SO THIS IS JUST AN IDEA.

WE CAN GO BACK AND RELOOK AT WHAT ITEMS MAKE UP THESE NUMBERS.

BUT AS I AS I PONDERED THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS AND THE TURF FIELDS AND AND THINGS, THESE THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF WHAT KIND OF DOLLARS YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR CAPITAL LEVY.

AND IF WE WERE TO DO A CAPITAL LEVY AT 50% INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO THE BOND AND NOT REPLACE THESE SCHOOLS, AND THEY BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING STRATEGY, IF YOU WILL, THAT POTENTIALLY YOU START WITH A CAPITAL LEVY, GET IT UNDERWAY AND GO WITH A BOND THAT ABSORBS THAT IF WE NEEDED TO WAIT FOR SOME ELIGIBILITY BECAUSE I'M SAYING WE HAVE NO ELIGIBILITY.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER STRATEGY PER SE TO RUN A CAPITAL LEVY, MAYBE NOT A 50 OUT OF 51 MILLION, MAYBE IT'S SOME OTHER AMOUNT. SEEK MORE COMMUNITY INPUT ON REALLY HOW MUCH GLEN WOODLAWN THE DESIRE IS TO TEAR DOWN REPLACE ITS BEAUTIFUL, INCREDIBLE CAMPUS.

IN MY OPINION, PLEASANT AND THEIR DIFFICULT PLEASANT VALLEY IS A DIFFICULT SITE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH LAND TO GO BUILD TWO NEW SCHOOLS WHILE I KEEP TWO ACTIVE. THAT'S A CHALLENGE AT THAT SITE.

GLENWOOD AND LOREN IS NO PROBLEM.

SO LET'S DROP BACK UP AT LEAST LET'S GO TO THE FIRST AND JUST SEE WHAT $51 MILLION WOULD GET YOU.

SO GLEN GLENWOOD, I JUST LOOKED AT ALL THE PORTABLES AND TEN PLEX'S WHICH ARE GETTING ON IN AGES.

SOME OF THOSE ARE FROM THE NINETIES LATE NINETIES, NEW FLOORING THROUGHOUT THE THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS REPLACED DOORS.

THOSE WERE SOME OF THE ORIGINALS.

SO THERE WE WENT.

THE DISTRICT WENT A LITTLE CHEAPER ON FINISHES THE DOORS AND THE TRIM WHEREAS NOW WE HAVE NICE METAL FRAMES AND NICE WOOD DOORS PAINTING SECURITY UPGRADES, METAL ROOFS.

THAT'S ONE WAY WE COULD REALLY IMPROVE THEIR COMPLEXES AS IS.

AND IF THE MAIN BUILDING YOU WANTED TO ENHANCE THEIR PLAYGROUND AREA, WE CUT THE ROOF EXISTING.

JIM SO ONE OF THESE THOUGHTS WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT, THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE ADMIN AND THEY HAVE TINY LITTLE GYM.

WHAT IF WE CONVERTED THOSE INTO OFFICE SPACES AND GIVE THE SCHOOL NEW HVAC AND NEW FLOORING, NEW LIGHTING, AND THEN WHAT IF WE WERE TO BUILD A GYM AND A CAFÉ THAT'S SIMILAR TO, SAY, DAYBREAK, THE COMMONS AREA WHERE A DOOR WOULD OPEN BETWEEN THE GYM AND THE CAFETERIA FOR ASSEMBLY AREAS? AGAIN, I JUST. I JUST THOUGHT I'D LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

DIFFERENT OPTIONS. LET'S LOOK AT LAWN PORTABLES.

WE'D GET RID OF THE OLDER ONES AND PUT IN A NEW TEN PLEX, ENHANCE THEIR PLAYGROUND, NEW COVER, PLAY RE COAT THE B AND GYM ROOFS.

THREE OF THOSE BUILDINGS ON SITE HAD NO NO OLDER THAN TEN YEAR ROOFS ON THEM.

REPLACE THE HVAC.

WE COULD EASILY EXPAND THE PARKING LOT.

NOW THAT THERE'S NO SEPTIC FIELD, REPLACE THE COVERED WALKWAYS, RE PLUMB THE BUILDINGS LIKE I DID HERE HERE AT LEWISVILLE.

NEW LIGHTING, REPAINT IN AND OUT, AND THEN PUT IN THAT NEW TRACK AND FIELD FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL SPORTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT 12 MILLION WOULD GET YOU.

ROUGHLY. PLEASE DON'T HOLD ME TO ANY OF THESE TIGHTLY, BUT THINGS WILL CHANGE.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW TERMS THESE THESE ARE ACCURATE DOLLARS.

DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT OR JUST KEEP GOING OVER THEM? KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. PLEASANT VALLEY.

SO WE REPLACED THE ROOF ENTIRELY.

THERE'S NO RESTORING THAT ONE.

WE'D MAKE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, REPLACE FLOORING, THERE'S A LIBRARY REMODEL THEY WANT TO ENCLOSE.

THEY WANTED TO. ENCLOSE THE LIBRARY WITH GLASS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO NOISY RIGHT NOW BEING OPEN, NEW LIGHTING.

AND I JUST STARTED TO THINK, WELL, OKAY, WHAT IF I.

WHAT IF I. THEY USE THE SMALL GYM.

CONVERT THAT TO, LIKE, A CAFÉ.

SIMILAR TO WHAT YAKULT USES.

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YAKULT HAS A GYM.

THEY USE IT FOR LUNCH AND THEY USE IT FOR GYM.

THEY DO HAVE TWO HALVES, SO THEY CAN ALWAYS HAVE A GO ON.

BUT ON THE ALTERNATIVE SIDE, DURING THOSE PERIODS THEY COULDN'T USE IT.

WHILE THERE'S LUNCH THERE.

THEY HAVE A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT THEY COULD COORDINATE WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR USE, REPAINT NEW CABINETRY, NEW TRACK AND FIELD.

AND THAT'S WHAT 9.8 MILLION WOULD ROUGHLY GET YOU PRETTY HIGH.

SO AS I SAID, I'M IN A BIND.

I NEED A NEW I NEED A NEW I NEED TO HAVE A SOCCER FIELD OR A SOFTBALL FIELD BUILT BEFORE APRIL OF 2024.

THANK GOODNESS. REVISE OUR BUS LANE ROUTE.

I'D LOVE TO. I'D LOVE TO REROUTE THOSE BUSSES TO GO BACK ON THE SOUTH, ON THE VERY SOUTH ROUTE WHERE THAT FIRE LANE IS.

THE KIDS COULD ALL ALL GET UNDER COVERED WHILE THEY'RE THERE.

WE WOULDN'T BE INTERMIXING WITH TRAFFIC.

PROBLEM IS, I'VE GOT TWO LARGE TRANSFORMERS TO MOVE.

IT'S ABOUT A $900,000 HIT THERE.

NEW FIELDHOUSE.

IF WE PUT IN, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE COVERED THE COVERED BLEACHERS AT PRAIRIE.

I'VE GOT AN ESTIMATE OF THAT AS 350.

BUT THAT WOULD SIT RIGHT WITH THE NEW FIELDHOUSE IS WE'D HAVE TO UPDATE THEIR FIELDHOUSE AND AND FOR STORAGE AGAIN, STORAGE IS A BIG ISSUE NEXT YEAR PAINT AND AND DOING ONE TURF BASEBALL INFIELD SO THEN WE WOULD HAVE BOTH A SOFTBALL AND A BASEBALL TURF FIELD BATTLE GROUND HIGH SO THAT'S WHAT 6.6 MILLION GET YOU BATTLE GROUND HI AGAIN.

I'VE DISCUSSED THAT WE GOT WE DO NEED TO REPLACE THIS ONE AND THIS WOULD ALLOW TO BE ONE OF OUR SOFTBALL TURF FIELDS.

THAT'S WHAT 3 MILLION WOULD DO.

TUKES VALLEY AGAIN, A TRACK THERE, MIDDLE SCHOOL DAY BRACKET, NEW TRACK THERE AND TURF INFIELD YAKULT. I LOOK AT REPLACING THEIR SIX OLD PORTABLES THAT I'D LIKE TO REPLACE THAT WITH ONE NEW TEN PLEX PARDON THE A ON PLEX AND THEN AMBOY IN THE PREVIOUS BOND WAS TO RENOVATE THAT 300 BUILDING AND EXPAND STEM AND AND BOND AND SO I PLUGGED IN A NUMBER THERE AS WELL AND THAT REALLY COVERS THE WHOLE DISTRICT JUST AS A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY OF MAYBE NOT GOING OUT FOR A FULL TIME, FULL SIZED BOND.

IT JUST GIVES YOU SOME OPTIONS.

RIGHT. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT, RIGHT, OF THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON BONDS, TO GIVE YOU TO PAINT YOUR PICTURE OF WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.

SO YOU GET A LITTLE FEEL FOR WHAT POTENTIALLY COSTS ARE.

COULD WE COULD WE RUN A BOND AT A REPLACEMENT AT $150 MILLION? CERTAINLY 150 MILLION IS GOING TO GET US A LOT.

HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO ACTUALLY BUILD A NEW PLEASANT VALLEY? A NEW. YEAH. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU JUST REPLACED THE FOUR SCHOOLS, THE TWO PLEASANT VALLEYS AND THE AND THE LOREN AND GLENWOOD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $170 MILLION, $170 MILLION.

SO AND SOME OF THAT REASON IS THAT WE WOULD BE USING A NEW PROTOTYPE WE'D BE BUILDING.

WE, WE DO NOT WANT TO BUILD A THREE BUILDING PROTOTYPE AGAIN.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LARGER.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE SQUARE FEET THAT'S INELIGIBLE FOR NEW AND AND LOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF GLEN WANTS 35,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS, 45,000 AND I SHOULD POINT OUT THE 170 MILLION IS JUST OUR SHARE, THE LOCAL SHARE.

THE TOTAL COST OF THE PACKAGE WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THE STATE FUNDING WOULD COVER SOME OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ELIGIBLE.

RIGHT. BUT THAT'S 100 AND THAT'S 170 MILLION.

SO AS YOU KNOW, AS AS MARK AND TREVOR POINTED OUT, 150 MILLION IS PROBABLY $0.50, YOU KNOW, SO 170 MILLION, 55, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, $0.60 SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THERE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT ONLY GETS YOU THE SOUTHERN SCHOOLS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE GOT TO THINK WHAT VOTER SUPPORT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. AND IT DOESN'T INCREASE CAPACITY.

AND THAT'S MY OTHER CONCERN, I WILL TELL YOU IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAS HURT RIDGEFIELD IS THAT.

THEY PASSED THE BOND SEVEN YEARS AGO AND BUILT NEW SCHOOLS AND DID SOME EXTRA THINGS.

AND THEN THE GROWTH HIT THEM AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, NOW WE NEED ANOTHER BOND SO THAT WE CAN BUILD MORE NEW SCHOOLS.

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AND WHAT THE VOTERS SAID WAS, HEY, WE JUST PASSED THE BOND RECENTLY.

WE DON'T WANT TO PASS ANOTHER BOND AGAIN ON TOP OF THAT.

AND SO YOU'VE SEEN THEM FAIL THEIR BOND EFFORTS THERE.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT IS NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT NEEDS ARE, THERE IS SOME ANTICIPATION FOR WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS WILL BE, BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE FOR US IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO WE NEED TO PASS A BOND.

WE CAN'T BE COMING BACK TO OUR VOTERS IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS ASKING FOR ANOTHER BOND.

THAT'S JUST MY FEELING.

RIGHT. WELL, AND IF THERE'S NOT GROWTH, I THINK THE THING TO REMEMBER IS WHILE THE BOND RATE GOES DOWN, THE ASSESSMENTS MIGHT GO UP.

SO FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LESS ON THEIR ON THEIR TAXES.

SO WE NEED THE GROWTH IN ORDER TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR.

AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS THE CLIMATE RIGHT NOW WITH INFLATION THE WAY IT IS AND WITH, YOU KNOW, INCOMES BEING BEING PULLED IN ALL KINDS OF DIRECTIONS, THE QUESTION OF HOW MUCH OUR COMMUNITY WILL SUPPORT IS A SIGNIFICANT QUESTION, AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO IT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES YOU WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOUGHT.

IT LEADS US INTO OUR NEXT NEXT DISCUSSIONS, WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT PROBABLY MONTH TO MONTHS.

YEAH. AND I GUESS WE CAN ALL WORK ON TRYING TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO OUR CITIZENS AND GET AS MUCH OF THEIR VOICES IN ON.

YEAH, AND A GOOD DIRECTION.

ANOTHER THING I SHOULD SAY, AMANDA AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING.

WE ARE GOING TO INITIATE A STAFF.

JUST GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO LIVE IN THESE FACILITIES AND THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET STAFF INPUT.

ONCE WE GET A STAFF INPUT AND WE GET A FEEL FOR WHERE WE ARE POTENTIALLY GOING.

AND I SAY WE THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP, WE ALSO WANT TO SEND OUT A SURVEY TO OUR COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE OF THAT.

AND I THINK WITH THAT INFORMATION, THAT'LL GET US CLOSER TO MAKING A FINAL DECISION.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

THANK YOU, GUYS. AGAIN. THANK YOU.

THANKS. BYE. DO I CLOSE? DO I CLOSE THIS ONE? WE CAN CLOSE IT AND WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN FOR 8 MINUTES.

WORK SESSION IS NOW OVER.

YEAH, WE GOT A QUICK BREAK, AND WE WILL START REAL CLOSE TO 6:00.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.